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Old 08-13-2009, 07:25 PM   #51
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So once again obvious BS and non-replying just broad question (answer will not contain any niche secret info or so).

Facts

1) You are using PPC from big 3, none of them allow free trials.
2) You are making money from it.

So if you reveal it it will probably close your business. It's OK and I got you. But why to share with others by making this post anyway then ? It doesn't make any sense.
LoL - seolinker, are you for real? someone got a big chip on your shoulder. My only point was to let people know that you can make money out of this. I'm not selling anything, I'm not mentoring anyone, and I laugh at your attitude. Sometimes people need a little boost and to see the light at the end of the tunnel and that they can get there. What were you expecting me to reveal here in public? my landing page/offer/ad/keywords?

As for yahoo or msn or adwords not allowing free trials, anyone with two eyes can go check the search engines and find there are lot of free trial offer affiliates out there. Google is the hardest clamping down on them, but by all means they're not airtight. (plus, I am not running on google anyway).

Tell you what, pm me and I'll show you and only you what I'm doing, only because I feel the need to prove myself to you that I'm not lying and that I am making money.
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Toro, nice job setting seolinker straight there. Not sure what that guy's problem is. It's not like you're trying to sell anything or convince anyone of anything. You're just showing what's been working for you, which is very generous I must say. Thanks for sharing

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Things that happened today - had 50 clicks and zero leads. I found out that the offer page was taking twelve (12!!) seconds to load. No wonder there were zero conversions. As soon as I brought it up to my AM, he got in touch with the advertiser and they did some magic, and wham, 3 leads in less than 10 clicks.

The other thing - one of my Yahoo campaigns which so far had been spending maybe $10-20 a day suddenly boosted to $100+ in a few hours. Net result , zero (or close to zero for all intents and purposes) dollars profit (maybe like $30). Lesson learned: gotta keep an eye on everything! Your campaigns, your site, your offer!...
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this is very inspirational.Let us know more about how you are progressing.Thanks
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Things that happened today - had 50 clicks and zero leads. I found out that the offer page was taking twelve (12!!) seconds to load. No wonder there were zero conversions. As soon as I brought it up to my AM, he got in touch with the advertiser and they did some magic, and wham, 3 leads in less than 10 clicks.

The other thing - one of my Yahoo campaigns which so far had been spending maybe $10-20 a day suddenly boosted to $100+ in a few hours. Net result , zero (or close to zero for all intents and purposes) dollars profit (maybe like $30). Lesson learned: gotta keep an eye on everything! Your campaigns, your site, your offer!...
Did you ever figure out why this happened? I'm guessing you spend between .75 - $2 per click ...adds up fast.

For the sake of not reading through this thread again...do you send traffic to your landing page or their offer directly?
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"You're just showing what's been working for you, which is very generous I must say."

He is not. That's was the deal It's a matter of time getting banned and making new account for ppc is very big headache, that's why I posted my rant.
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At least say that you are lucky or just cloak affiliate links or do some other backup in order not be find out. Cause many newb will follow by your inspiration and with very BIG possibility will get banged. That's what I mean. You are doing good with it - fine, but you heared my concerns.
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At least say that you are lucky or just cloak affiliate links or do some other backup in order not be find out. Cause many newb will follow by your inspiration and with very BIG possibility will get banged. That's what I mean. You are doing good with it - fine, but you heared my concerns.
DUDE - I just got back from the bars. I met these really hot chicks. Wish I had asked for their numbers. Ok, completely on a tangent. Listen to my words - I don't cloak. I have a landing page just like dozens of other landing pages you can find for the same offer I run. Article, blog or review, take your pick. It's all 100% legit (as legit as rebills can be). There's no secret bidding techniques, no secret landing page techniques, and keyword research was done with common sense and adwords tools. That's all. I'm not saying that if you pick a random niche and apply the same strategy you'll get the same success, but I *am* saying that success can be obtaining by sticking to the basics. No ebooks, no gurus, no BlueFart.

Gotta finish my beer. Later!
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LoL - seolinker, are you for real? someone got a big chip on your shoulder. My only point was to let people know that you can make money out of this. I'm not selling anything, I'm not mentoring anyone, and I laugh at your attitude. Sometimes people need a little boost and to see the light at the end of the tunnel and that they can get there. What were you expecting me to reveal here in public? my landing page/offer/ad/keywords?

As for yahoo or msn or adwords not allowing free trials, anyone with two eyes can go check the search engines and find there are lot of free trial offer affiliates out there. Google is the hardest clamping down on them, but by all means they're not airtight. (plus, I am not running on google anyway).

Tell you what, pm me and I'll show you and only you what I'm doing, only because I feel the need to prove myself to you that I'm not lying and that I am making money.
Well... In that case I don't believe it either! PM me what you are doing to prove yourself to me!

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I need some time to read this thread thoroughly.. anyways thanks for telling all this..
CPA has always confused me, I dont know how to go forward. Will give it a try again now.

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pmg2712, that's find, CPA is great way to make money, just don't implement what OP discussing, he is all against the rules and it's question of time when he will create other thread telling that yahoo and msn ban him for promoting crappy products.

It's short term money making method. If you are all for it - go.
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toro73,

Good job, looks like party is about to be over,

Seolinker, does make a sense.
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Crazy s**t!...

I woke up this morning with $300 in my pocket profit - it's 8am PST right now and this is what I found in my reports at Lidango:



If you look at the same screenshots I posted earlier, the first two offers weren't converting at all, and today, wham, massive conversions!... I don't know what's going on...but I'll take it!
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So you need to have a
1) Hosting Account
2) Have a landing page?
3) Do you capture the leads or do you pass straight to the offer?
1) yes
2) yes
3) the type of offers I am currently working with do not allow for capturing of them, so my landing page just has straight affiliate links to the offer page. Ideally I'd like to start working with offers that do allow for my own site to capture them. Anyone know of any niches/specific companies that work with captured leads, please pm me?

BTW, I should also say, I built a review site for a different niche (satellite tv for pc software) but that didn't fare so well. So, there are failures within the successes, I thought it's important to disclose those as well.
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I need some time to read this thread thoroughly.. anyways thanks for telling all this..
CPA has always confused me, I dont know how to go forward. Will give it a try again now.

Hey my friend just try to start out with a decent paying offer that you yourself would even try out or be interested in.

I cringe at the thought of someone just getting their feet wet with CPA to start trying PPC to CPA because you will be right back here in the forum later frustrated and out of a nice chunk of cash.

I started out using free methods but I kinda put them on steroids.

I had a nice $10 offer paying me on average of $100 a day and I never spent a penny on ads.

Sure my methods were more like the Turtle in the race but in the long run I was making enough to incorporate other methods including ad-spending and media buying like the elite CPA earners quietly get it done.

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What honestbizpro said it's an honor sir!
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What honestbizpro said it's an honor sir!

Hey and thanks for taking time to share in the first place.

This place can be alot like CSI investigation with everyone copying, spying, breaking down and analyzing so alot of pro CPAers keep their know-how and their sites and methods to themselves.

I can appreciate someone concerned about getting banned and ethical practices but sharing, learning, and trying to avoid some pitfalls before they happen is what forums are for.

I say take it all in...learn as much as you can..from as many resources on CPA as possible and you will get a good overall plan of attack in how to promote effectively.

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1) yes
2) yes
3) the type of offers I am currently working with do not allow for capturing of them, so my landing page just has straight affiliate links to the offer page. Ideally I'd like to start working with offers that do allow for my own site to capture them. Anyone know of any niches/specific companies that work with captured leads, please pm me?

BTW, I should also say, I built a review site for a different niche (satellite tv for pc software) but that didn't fare so well. So, there are failures within the successes, I thought it's important to disclose those as well.

Hi Toro73..
can you explain more on your landing page?you say that it has straight affiliate links to the offer page..does your landing page looks like a "story telling" , review page, or just some picture on it?

and lastly how you drive traffic to it?

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If he didn't banned still...then his page looks like some phony story about man/woman losing weight/have holywood smile/working 1 hour per day for $100k/month/ etc. etc.

It may have form of blog (flog actually, FAKE blog), some nonsense review, etc.

Also if he have "my landing page just has straight affiliate links to the offer page" then he will be slapped very hard!
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Hi

This thread is great.Not only is it very intriguing it is also quite amusing due to seolinkers banter!!
I am new to this forum but i do have some affiliate experience. A few questions if you please:

1. What is a Google slap, why do you get one? (This is new to me).
2. Is using PPC the normal way to generate traffic for CPA trials? I use adwords for my online shop / business so i dont want to run the risk of losing this facility - although i am very excited by all this. I definitely want to have a go but i need to know what NOT TO DO!
Can anyone give an example of a CPA landing page? I would like to have a closer look but cant find anything specific - not sure if it is for a trial or not - i dont want to submit any details!!!

Great post toro - thanks again.
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Any chance of revealing what PPC advertiser you're using?


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Thanks for your great post.
Really its so helpful for me and all new users.
I wish soon i will be at the position to earn 150$ a day.
Hope you will always inform us.
Thanks again for your great post.
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Thanks for the information.I own a website that has 30,000 uniques per month.What kind of CPA offers can be used for this kind of traffic??Please help and I am new to CPA
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Thanks for the information.I own a website that has 30,000 uniques per month.What kind of CPA offers can be used for this kind of traffic??Please help and I am new to CPA
It depends on what your website is about. Lol! Is it a dating forum? Is it an "acai berry blog"? Is it a gaming website? Do you get where I'm going?

Which offers you choose to promote on your site, should match the niche of it. 30,000 uniques has plenty of potential, but if they aren't targeted, nor responsive, it might be better to stick with normal advertising, or CPM.

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Thanks for the reply..It is a general news website that aggregates movie news,political news and other news..

Any good CPA offers for this kind of website??
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that's great, it's really good.

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Hi

This thread is great.Not only is it very intriguing it is also quite amusing due to seolinkers banter!!
I am new to this forum but i do have some affiliate experience. A few questions if you please:

1. What is a Google slap, why do you get one? (This is new to me).
2. Is using PPC the normal way to generate traffic for CPA trials? I use adwords for my online shop / business so i dont want to run the risk of losing this facility - although i am very excited by all this. I definitely want to have a go but i need to know what NOT TO DO!
Can anyone give an example of a CPA landing page? I would like to have a closer look but cant find anything specific - not sure if it is for a trial or not - i dont want to submit any details!!!

Great post toro - thanks again.

I agree that this is a good thread man!

1. Here is an example of the Google slap: You set up a campaign on AdWords, write a few ads, pick some keywords and let it run.
It runs for a few days with each keyword costing you 0.15 for examples sake.
One day Google finds something about your campaign, ad or landing page that it doesn't like and they start charging you 0.40 a click.
The simple secret is: take the time to carefully read the AdWords rules/terms. Do exactly what they say and want.
Others will be able to expand further on this issue.

2. PPC is the fastest way to get ultra targeted traffic when you want to promote CPA offers.
You could try your best to advertise your website for free everywhere you can, pay for banner advertising on others sites, put a sticker on your car but if you pump some money into PPC you will see results in an hour or less. It is just a matter of tuning your campaigns in hope to get the best quality score possible. This includes adhering to all the rules, using relevant keywords in relevant ads that point to relative landing pages with again, relative keywords. Relevancy is perhaps the most important thing when it comes to using AdWords (I haven't tried MSN and Yahoo). The better your quality score the cheaper your clicks will be.

To find a CPA landing page, first register with a CPA network, choose an offer to promote and then search for the offer on Google and go to the websites that are promoting the same offer.

Hope this helps

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I would be happy making $80 a day! I have set myself a target to be earning £50 ($80ish) per day within 18 months. I have just got to do lots of reading and put a plan together of how I will get there!

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Now this is an intersting thread!!!

Fair play if you are making it work - just be careful that the network does not halt any payments for 'misbehaving'!

Best way round this is to talk with network manager
that I see you are already doing so well done

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great thread, I got to visit the forum, I must.
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Thanks for the motivation. My PPC campaigns keep screwing me over even with tracking, and keeping everything written down.

Gonna give it a go again thanks to this thread

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Congratulations man!!

Making consistent money each day must be great. I know how it feels !
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I agree that this is a good thread man!

1. Here is an example of the Google slap: You set up a campaign on AdWords, write a few ads, pick some keywords and let it run.
It runs for a few days with each keyword costing you 0.15 for examples sake.
One day Google finds something about your campaign, ad or landing page that it doesn't like and they start charging you 0.40 a click.
The simple secret is: take the time to carefully read the AdWords rules/terms. Do exactly what they say and want.
Others will be able to expand further on this issue.

2. PPC is the fastest way to get ultra targeted traffic when you want to promote CPA offers.
You could try your best to advertise your website for free everywhere you can, pay for banner advertising on others sites, put a sticker on your car but if you pump some money into PPC you will see results in an hour or less. It is just a matter of tuning your campaigns in hope to get the best quality score possible. This includes adhering to all the rules, using relevant keywords in relevant ads that point to relative landing pages with again, relative keywords. Relevancy is perhaps the most important thing when it comes to using AdWords (I haven't tried MSN and Yahoo). The better your quality score the cheaper your clicks will be.

To find a CPA landing page, first register with a CPA network, choose an offer to promote and then search for the offer on Google and go to the websites that are promoting the same offer.

Hope this helps
Thanks for the info.. I have one more question! I have 3 lists. 1 in the health and fittness niche approx 25k, 1 in investment niche approx 100k and another in finance - mortgages / insurance etc approx 100k. I have these lists due to companies i worked with over the past few years. Do you think i should focus on them rather than throwing money at PPC? So many people on this forum seem to loose far more than they earn using PPC! I currently mnage 2 PPC campaigns which seem to be working well but applying it to CPA seema a little worrying!
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PPC is just another method to promote CPA, you don't need to use it, in fact, I stay away from PC since it's too much trouble with Google, Yahoo and Facebook, now I'm more focused on some free traffic source
so if you have a list, why not use it? Don't tell me you don't like money
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yukinara, you will not make as much money with free methods like with paid ones. It takes money to make money.
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I'm currently averaging about $150/day (some days are crap, like today, others can go as high as $300+) doing PPC to landing page to offer using CPA free trials.
What's CPA free trials?
As a newbie, I'm not sure I understand the difference between PPC and CPA- You mean you get paid every time the product you promote is bought by someone and you pay every time your ad is being clicked on(like on Adwords)?


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1) talk to your affiliate managers as far as what offers are hot and converting. You do not want to start with an offer that you have no idea if it sells. Establishing a good relationship with them never hurts. I'm signed up with a bunch of networks, but I'm currently working with Lidango.com. Their payouts are pretty impressive compared to some of the bigger players.
How can you talk to the affiliate managers? I'm have an account at clickbank. I don't think Ican to the mangers of clickbank asking them what's the best affiliate prgrams,do you?
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It's great to see someone new to the business making that kind of money after 6 weeks!

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By putting the effort into some other form of promotion.
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That is good. Congrats.
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Thanks for sharing this with us Toro! I have been following this thread with great interest. Keep up the great work and keep updating us.

All the best,

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Viv,
CPA is cost per action/aquisition. You make money with CPA each time someone takes the requested action on your offer be it submitting their email address, zip code, both or their first name or simply by filling out a survey or any other short info. No need for a purchase to occur for you to get paid.

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What's CPA free trials?
As a newbie, I'm not sure I understand the difference between PPC and CPA- You mean you get paid every time the product you promote is bought by someone and you pay every time your ad is being clicked on(like on Adwords)?

After you've signed up with a CPA network, you'll be assigned an affiliate manager and you'll receive their contact info. That's how you can chat/talk to them. Hope this clarifies things.

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How can you talk to the affiliate managers? I'm have an account at clickbank. I don't think Ican to the mangers of clickbank asking them what's the best affiliate prgrams,do you?
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Just curious, but what gets someone banned from google adwords?
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Toro73, very great thread you have started! I appreciate everyone's input, it appears that you are inspiring many :-)
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Bkenn01, just do what OP doing and you will be banned in no time
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$150 a day is a nice chunk of change. Just shows that a little hard work can pay off. Congrats!
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I agree that this is a good thread man!

1. Here is an example of the Google slap: You set up a campaign on AdWords, write a few ads, pick some keywords and let it run.
It runs for a few days with each keyword costing you 0.15 for examples sake.
One day Google finds something about your campaign, ad or landing page that it doesn't like and they start charging you 0.40 a click.
The simple secret is: take the time to carefully read the AdWords rules/terms. Do exactly what they say and want.
Others will be able to expand further on this issue.
obviously you have never been slapped by google becasue they will start charging you $5.00-$10.00 a click and reduce your quality score to 1/10.

also reading adwords rules/terms is a waste of time as they have not updated it since 2006 and since then they change there rules/terms every few months.
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wow I think im in the wrong business I just run a blog for ad revenue making only maybe 1 to 2 bucks a day.. Good Work

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Thanks for the free report on cpa offers. I read some where that MSN adcenter has great potential for buying customers.

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This is really interesting and open to some debate. I can see how one side feels this way and yet others feel another. Personally, it's very hard to say. I think I'm not going to take a stand on this yet. Curious to see what others feel.
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