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Old 08-16-2009, 02:36 AM   #1
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For those of you who are or have marketed CPA products through CPA networks:

You know those products that pay you $30-$50 Per Action. The action being, getting a viewer to try out a product using a free trial and all the viewer has to pay for is the shipping which is about $5.95 or $6.95….

A great example would be the dozens/hundreds of Acai Berry offers on CPA networks.

They pay you a great amount. How do they make a profit from this!
If they are only charging $5.95 for shipping to the viewer, and paying you $30 or more!

I know that when a viewer signs up for a free trial (7 days usually) they will then be charged another $50 to $75 to keep the subscription going, if they don’t cancel the trial in time.

But can these companies be making that much money on that much risk?

I mean, if you get 6 people to sign up to the Acai berry offer, and you get paid $30 for each person. (a total of $180). What do you think the chances are that all 6 customers will stick around? I’d say very little, don’t you???

I market endlessly for CPA networks without knowing how the big boy advertisers are still making a profit. Out of 6 Signups, I’d say about 2 people stick around. But I have no way of knowing for sure!

My question is, how much people do you think stick around after the free trial and actually agree or maybe forget to cancel the free trial and end up getting charged $50 for the next months service?

Looking forward to hearing some solid replies
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Old 08-16-2009, 03:35 AM   #2
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Thanks for the reply SeoLinker. I get that these sites are not exactly fair to customers, but the one thing I'm having a hard time understand from your post is that it seems like these companies ignore customers request for a trial cancellation? - I doubt it goes that far out. If a customer asks for a cancellation of the trial before the 7 day mark, he/she would get it.
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Would be glad to answer. I just didn't really understand what you are asking...

Am I using Pay Per Click for my CPA marketing ventures? Yes I am.

What do you mean when you say "but reading about lot of bans on all over the interner when you promote that on big 3 ppc engines make me really scare."

You asking if there is a possibility to get your website banned from search engines if you promote cpa offers?
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Old 08-16-2009, 04:20 AM   #4
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Yes I do promote CPA offers like Acai Berry....In fact, I am currenlty promoting 2 Acai Berry offers at the moment, however I go about redirecting PPC traffic to a review site, or some time of site to get the viewer interested before moving them onto the CPA offer. There is no reason to boot someone from a Search Engine, directly to a CPA offer. Having something in between gives you more space/time to convert those "uncertain" viewers.

I'm out for now, will be back later on. I look forward to seeing some other Warriors who are in the CPA game answering the question labeled in the first post
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Old 08-16-2009, 06:38 AM   #5
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so we can't promote the free offer using adword ???

I have the ssame quest in the first post, what if many people want to scam the free offer? I mean they pay people for filling offer, how the company know if its valid or not ??
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Hi Guys. I am directly involved with this.

What I can tell you, is that so far indeed these company's are making A LOT of money, but they are only able to do it by misleading and preventing folks from canceling thur any means neccasory. The CPA networks are turning a blind eye towards it.

I am most intrested in finding a way to attract affliates, to promote a legit offer, without the high rebill and all the other scum. However, so far no luck on that, as the payouts to do this, are only around $8 per sale, NOT the $40 per sale the scummy offers payout.

Therefore, so far I have not been able to really break into the CPA world. It appears, that either you lie, cheat and steal to play with the big boys, or you go home.

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oh.. the great rebill..

i remember I once read that on average they make approx $100 per sign up..

they will do market research and find out that info, them from there figure out how much to pay networks/affiliates/etc..

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oh.. the great rebill..

i remember I once read that on average they make approx $100 per sign up..

they will do market research and find out that info, them from there figure out how much to pay networks/affiliates/etc..
If thats the case, thats a lot of $100 in their pockets ...

I think its reasonable to say that they would make that much from people who just turn their back and forget the company is charging them, or if they actually liked the product, they will stick around for a few months. But from each signup, to make that much?

Now I'm interested to know if these companies actually make it nearly impossible for the cancellation of their service.
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I suppose....Thanks for the replies Seolinker.

Back to the question

how much people do you think stick around after the free trial and actually agree or maybe forget to cancel the free trial and end up getting charged $50 for the next months service?
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I would imagine maybe 50% stay around the next month, but then after that it probably drops to like 25% or less, and then finally very little after the third month. The life cycle on this can NOT be very good because of the large monthly charges.

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I would imagine maybe 50% stay around the next month, but then after that it probably drops to like 25% or less, and then finally very little after the third month. The life cycle on this can NOT be very good because of the large monthly charges.
Thanks.... Sounds reasonable.

Would be great to hear from an actual person who sells using CPA networks, but I doubt they would come in the forum and tell us .... They want the competition at a minimum.
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Go to youtube and type in "CPA sucks"
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Old 08-17-2009, 12:33 AM   #13
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Thats an interesting video, but thats just an angry dude who is looking to be ethical. He has some good points though.
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