DependableTrader

Well, I didn't get any response from thier support tickets for two weeks I then submitted a ticket for a refund and still didn't get a response. I left a voice message and didn't get a response. So, I called my credit card company and they are refunding my money directly to me and they will handle any further communication with AffiliateJump.

John34

If you notice carefully,they are paying only $20-$25/leads for acai,rez trials whereas u can get $35-$40/lead on other good networks.

l23bc

to top that off affilate jump is charging people 200 bucks a set up fee to join when other CPA networks are just plain fussy on who they let in to join no bashing intended but just my options on the matter,

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Shakul

$200 isnt going to stop the "real" spammers. For spammers $200 isnt a big amount

Other networks at least screen the applications which at least remove the amount of newbie scammers

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Zach Booker

^^^ Do you not think spammers make a lot of money, Mike?

Some "spammers"/Black.hat people make well, well, over 6 figures every year.

The reason they won't join AffiliateJump is because the offers pay out so much less, no tracking is involved, and there's no AM's.

Even Bla.ck.haters run their **** like a business.

Zach

zerofill

$200 is a joke to people who make real money in CPA...What stops the so called spammers...is the fact that it pays less than everyone else because it is a 3rd party to the 3rd party.

You could do the same thing...Join a bunch of cpa companies...make your own new company...and a website with those CPA offers...Pay a lower amount then the CPA company you got the offer from and use their POST back feature to track who was making the sales. Nothing really earth shattering on how to accomplish something like this.

Jeremy and I were even tossing the idea back and forth probably 8 months ago...and we just didn't want to bother with it.

sportstoto3368

1. anyone have experience in this affiliatejump?

2 .How much lower is the commission payout from them compare to you directly join the CPA?

3. If stop after join for 3 months, the CPA network that you join will gone? Everything is using their account? Once they got the statistic, they post to their site for you to see?

Zach Booker

1) I do not personally, no. But people on this thread have.

2) Again, i'm not sure exactly. But around 10 dollars less. Ex: Copeac will pay you $30, AffiliateJump will pay you $20.

3) I'm not sure entirely what you mean. But when joining a regular CPA company you'll never cancel your account, it just wouldn't make sense since it's free. But with AffiliateJump I suppose if you did cancel you wouldn't have access, obviously, to the members area etc.

So any sites you had their offers running on the links would no longer make you money. (Because your aff links would no longer work.)

I hate to sound like i'm just hating on AffiliateJump. I have nothing personal against Mike or his ethics.

But I will say that I personally feel this program is one big mess. If no experienced marketers will touch AffiliateJump no noob, obviously, should either.

If your gonna spend 400 dollars on anything than get Don and Jeremy's CPA bootcamp and put those steps into action. (Don=Zerofill)

Zach

SacredWealth

I was contemplating joining this, but after I read this thread, I think it would be a waste of time and money.

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zerofill

Just like Zach...I have no ill will towards Mike or anyone else that uses the strategy. (I am actually surprised there haven't been 1000 people coming out with this idea anyway) I just know how this type of thing works because we had thought about doing it as well.

The problem I have with it though is... if Jeremy and I would have went through with it.

1) We would have treated it more like training...and showed people some ways to promote the offers.
2) We wouldn't have charged a fee to join because we would have been making plenty from the conversions on the offers.

So I guess I don't understand where the $200 is justified in this type of setup. Unless the $200 is to cover some type of special training? I don't know maybe it was. It may have also been their idea to use the $200 as a psychological edge. In the fact that if you paid to join them they felt like you were more likely to work at it and make them and yourself more money. I mean that idea does work...often if people invest enough money in something they will work harder to try and get it to work rather than if they received it for free. I really don't know what the fee is for. Maybe someone who signed up for it can say.

Either way it isn't a bad idea...if done right...it could help a lot of people out. I have never seen it... so I can't say if it was done right or not.

Although the argument for keeping spammers out etc...is completely off target. The only thing that prevented that was the fact that it pays out less because like I was saying...it is being a 3rd party to a 3rd party.

If your confident on the phone and sound like you have a clue...you will get accepted by some of the regular networks...maybe not all but you only need to be accepted by a few...not 20+ like Jeremy and I....I mean we have accounts with a ton of them but really only use a few of them.

When you talk to them on the phone you say:

"Hey whats up...I been doing affiliate marketing for some time now and figured it was time to branch out. I push most of my traffic with article marketing, and other forms of content, along side PPC. So i would say right now my traffic is pretty much a 50/50 split between organic and PPC. I have been doimg extremely well with places like clickbank and commission junction...so I am trying to scale up a bit. Plus I know from some friends that CPA offers just convert much better than clickbank products because they have a more polished and refined look about them."

You just talk like you have a clue and you are sure of yourself you will get accepted...

I know some people may have a hard time if they are from Nigeria or some of the other countries where a lot of spam comes from. But there are CPA companies out there that will work with you there too if you put your best face on and sound professional. I feel for some of you guys that are honest and get stereotyped...but you can find a way... 8)

zerofill

Yeah well...like I was saying I dunno where the $200 comes into play. Not sure what they mean by no tracking either? How can you pay someone if you haven't tracked the sale?

The way we would have done this would have been to assign a number to the affiliate and use that number with our own affiliate link and used the post back feature of the networks that have the ability. Which is 99% of the ones worth a damn...

Postback custom element would have been the affiliate ID we assigned the person. That way you can track who made what sale etc.

But you can't run a CPA network without tracking and without Managers...there is no way you can run a successful legitimate CPA network that way. Doesn't even make sense if that is the way that was setup...if so...then...I will keep my thoughts to myself on what I think of it...

I never know what these guys are selling til I read about it on a forum anyway...not on any of their lists. I think I am on like 3 lists total...because I really don't care what any of them are selling. Reading all those emails and wasting your time looking at all that stuff just stops you from making money... 8)

The only thing I will say again though...is you can get approved at a CPA network for free that pays the full payout amounts...so if your new to CPA...your best bet is to get approved by one of the real networks that you have an affiliate manager to talk to.

mohammad111

I dunno about you guys but anything by Mike Filsaime I trust it. The reason? I bought his stuff and I know that he knows what he is talking about

Now the reason he started Affiliate Jump is because he kept his eyes and ears open and saw that there is a demand for something and he can make good money out of it so he just went ahead and created this site and he sure did make couple of 100000 $$$s out of it.

Now about the $200 thingy. I guess (not 100% sure about it) that if you make $1000 in your first 6 months (once again I am not 100% sure) then you get your money back.

Hope that helps.

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mohammad111

Just hold on because they do it after every launch. When I bought his Butterfly Marketing course I wanted to cancel the subscription and I submitted a ticket but I didn't get a response until the next 3 weeks.

Now about you calling the Credit Card company, Last time when I bought Butterfly Marketing, Mike Filsaime had a video inside the members area telling the members that they should not call their credit card companies because it causes them too much hassle and they have to spend long hours convincing the credit card companies and if someone does it they will charge him an extra $250 for the time wasted with the credit card company.

Now, I don't know about his policy about Affiliate Jump but I think that it's too late even if he had the same policy.

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FrontLineMentor

Just wondering how many members have joined
affliate jump? It is not as hot as it used to be
when it is launched..

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mohammad111

This is an old marketing technique by Mike Filsaime and he mentions it in about all of his courses. Mike Filsaime says that you should create an urgency to buy and tell the people that if you don't get it now you won't be getting it later and unlike many scammers he actually closes down access to the site some days after the launch.

It has happened to launch tree, the 7 figure code and now Affiliate Jump and usually it opens up after he increases the price or he sees that there is a need in the market and he will make money from it.

Now he has two main advantages of doing so,

#1. after he closes access to the site his team can now totally concentrate on the people that already came in and,

#2. his product is not devalued for a long time and he can relaunch anytime and make a lot of money from it.

I haven't joined Affiliate Jump and I don't know a lot about it but I really believe that this man has a great marketing techniques and he know how to make a lot of money from small things that other people with otherwise ignore.

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nubianronin

I did take a good hard look at AffiliateJump (BTW- I loved the sales page which primarily featured video- no long copy). In the end I did not sign up because I was concerned about the the liberal use of the templates by the subscribers. While some might debate whether or not this was a concern, I am more interested in developing promotion pages that have some more uniqueness to them.

I also wondered how much was being diverted from the CPA offers by going through this network. I am in agreement with one of the previous replies that recommended simply picking up the telephone and calling the CPA network you are applying to. Conversation is so often a lost art and go a long way to helping you get accepted.

Finally, scarcity is a psyhological trigger that has been used by many in online and offline business models. Mr. Filsaime is simply applying a tried and true technique that his proven to be successful for himself and a great many others.

Zach Booker

^ Exactly!

The whole thing was a really a genius set up. Too bad it sucks.

Zach

Roar

I don't mean this as bashing so please don't take it that way, but Filsaime is a genius marketer, really. I personally think he saw an opportunity (CPA has been getting hotter and more well known) and capitalized on it.

The problem, in my opinion, is that there is no customer service, at all, period; the templates are slick but limited in choice; there is no training or instruction(at the time of launch anyway) and the offers and commissions are far less than regular networks.

If you noticed, they did the pre-launch technique that has been working so well for them in the past...massive hype, the countdown, on launch day you see them sitting around a table seemingly working the launch, the servers overload and few can get download of product, then the feeding frenzy builds to fever pitch, servers are fixed and finally they make a Titanic boatload of money.

Brilliant marketing. Take notes. But is the product worth it? I don't know, that's a personal call. For me I'm not paying $200 for it specifically because of the problems mentioned above.

Ceciliacyprus

Just want to say that I had great customer service from Affiliate Jump people and got exactly what I wanted done, fast. Speak as I find.

thezone

That is the MO. Do not deny a refund, just don't acknowledge it.

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daykotah

Well that sucks!! Are they still around? There is too much good information on this forum on how to get approved for the networks without paying $200 + a monthly fee? Sounds greedy to me.

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