PPV Leverage Methods

Johnaxe · 08-20-2009, 05:40 PM

Here is the TOS:

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5. PROHIBITED USES

MTA strictly prohibits: (a) using the Program or any device or means to generate fraudulent visits of Ad(s) or third-party ad(s), including but not limited to clicking ads for any purpose other than by an individual consumer interested in the content of the specific ad, using robots or other automated query tools and/or computer generated requests, and/or the fraudulent use of other optimization services and/or software; (b) advertising any substances, services, products or materials that are illegal in any state or country where the Ad is displayed; (c) without a direct click on your Ad from the user, open any other window also known as pop-up, pop-under, exit-pop; (d) displaying any download prompt or Active-X launch prompt or Active-X auto-install without having a direct click on your Ad from the user; (e) to redirect the user to another URL without having a direct click on your Ad from the user; (f) tampering with the size of the window inside which the destination is displayed in a manner that prevents the title bar and window closing controls from being visible, (g) advertise, promote or offer any product, method or practice that could interfere or adversely affect MTA's program, software's or network; (h) advertising any product of an adult nature is prohibited from being advertise on MTA's Program, including but not limited to images, videos or texts portraying nudity, sexual acts or products of an adult nature like drugs, adult toys or contraceptives. (i) using the Program in any way that violates any policy provided to you in writing; or (j) engaging in any illegal or fraudulent business practice under the laws of any state or country where the Ad is displayed. (k) plays audio without a click from the user, (l) intentionally targeting a merchant website with the express purpose of cookie stuffing or affiliate fraud. Violation of these policies may result in immediate termination of this Agreement, seizure of any unused funds and may subject you to other legal consequences.

I don't know. what do you guys think.

John

ChrisBa · 08-20-2009, 05:54 PM

not sure what your asking??? what do you mean by cookie stuffing or affiliate fraud? ppv is neither of those?

Johnaxe · 08-20-2009, 06:21 PM

I'm referring to the methods taught in the guide "PPV Leverage" namely the sniper technique.

...and no I am not saying that ppv is those things but after reading "ppv leverage" it is very easy and conceivable to see how one could use cpv networks to basically swipe other peoples affiliate commissions.

John

ChrisBa · 08-20-2009, 08:47 PM

ahh ok, sorry i haven't read PPV Leverage so I was a tad confused

Cash37 · 08-20-2009, 11:15 PM

That rule means if you target an affiliate link to pop YOURS over, they dont want that kind of business. You can pop up your offer over other sites though. Like.. poping the CPA trial of Blockbuster over the main blockbuster.com page.

Robyn8243 · 08-21-2009, 07:15 AM

I have not read PPV leverage...are you saying that they teach to use cookie stuffing scripts to attach your cookies for multiple offers? Or to target people already at the same merchant offer as the one you are promoting?

Those kinds of tactics are the EXACT REASON that many advertisers do not accept CPV/PPV traffic. Advertisers do not want to pay for leads that were already about to buy from them...nor do they want their affiliates who are legitimately bringing them traffic to get hosed by other affiliates....they want to keep their affiliates who are bringing them legitimate new leads.

Not allowed by any legitimate CPV/PPV advertising networks. Whether or not they will always detect is another issue.

Do unto others.....

I always find it ironic when I read about shady methods that are supposedly making a fortune for people....if this stuff really works (not just in theory...or until you get caught and banned) why would you be sharing for a pittance. People promoting these types of tactics are not generally interested in helping others, only themselves.

Robyn

Johnaxe · 08-21-2009, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Cash37

That rule means if you target an affiliate link to pop YOURS over, they dont want that kind of business. You can pop up your offer over other sites though. Like.. poping the CPA trial of Blockbuster over the main blockbuster.com page.

Really because i'm pretty sure it says...

"intentionally targeting a merchant website with the express purpose of cookie stuffing or affiliate fraud."

Isn't blockbuster technically a merchant? and I'm sure if they new they were paying out an affiliate for a signup that might have occurred anyways they would not look to kindly on this methodology.

Besides, the PPV leverage method doesn't talk about targeting the primary domain page. it pretty clearly states to target the order page or the page right before the desired action so that your chances of a potential conversion are even higher.

Believe me when I first read it I thought "wow" this is really a clever and innovative technique, but the more I thought about it and how it would effect others I realized that I am doing nothing more than leeching of the hard work and traffic that someone else has spent time and effort to create.

...and then when i read the TOS it became pretty clear that this practice is frowned upon. Now I realize that many get away with it and probably will for a long time, but as Robin said...

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Those kinds of tactics are the EXACT REASON that many advertisers do not accept CPV/PPV traffic.

And i have to say, she makes a valid point. Whenever a new legitimate type of traffic or money making system comes along (like CPV) someone always has to find the way to exploit it and thus tarnish the whole concept and give it a bad rap.

John

08-20-2009, 05:54 PM	#2
ChrisBa Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,124 Thanks: 10 Thanked 508 Times in 402 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPV Leverage Methods - Violation of Mediatraffic TOS? not sure what your asking??? what do you mean by cookie stuffing or affiliate fraud? ppv is neither of those?
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08-20-2009, 06:21 PM	#3
Johnaxe Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: St. Louis, Missouri Posts: 82 Thanks: 3 Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts	Re: PPV Leverage Methods - Violation of Mediatraffic TOS? I'm referring to the methods taught in the guide "PPV Leverage" namely the sniper technique. ...and no I am not saying that ppv is those things but after reading "ppv leverage" it is very easy and conceivable to see how one could use cpv networks to basically swipe other peoples affiliate commissions. John

08-20-2009, 08:47 PM	#4
ChrisBa Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,124 Thanks: 10 Thanked 508 Times in 402 Posts Social Networking	Re: PPV Leverage Methods - Violation of Mediatraffic TOS? ahh ok, sorry i haven't read PPV Leverage so I was a tad confused
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08-20-2009, 11:15 PM	#5
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08-21-2009, 07:15 AM	#6
Robyn8243 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 355 Thanks: 77 Thanked 77 Times in 47 Posts	Re: PPV Leverage Methods - Violation of Mediatraffic TOS? I have not read PPV leverage...are you saying that they teach to use cookie stuffing scripts to attach your cookies for multiple offers? Or to target people already at the same merchant offer as the one you are promoting? Those kinds of tactics are the EXACT REASON that many advertisers do not accept CPV/PPV traffic. Advertisers do not want to pay for leads that were already about to buy from them...nor do they want their affiliates who are legitimately bringing them traffic to get hosed by other affiliates....they want to keep their affiliates who are bringing them legitimate new leads. Not allowed by any legitimate CPV/PPV advertising networks. Whether or not they will always detect is another issue. Do unto others..... I always find it ironic when I read about shady methods that are supposedly making a fortune for people....if this stuff really works (not just in theory...or until you get caught and banned) why would you be sharing for a pittance. People promoting these types of tactics are not generally interested in helping others, only themselves. Robyn