eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN

Greg Jacobs · 08-27-2009, 11:29 AM

For those Warriors that are in EPN world, we know that this week has brought lots of interesting news. In the forefront is the new QCP (Quality Click Pricing) in which EPN has stated that we will be paid on the dynamic basis per the quality of our clicks.

Now I have had some discussions with a few of the Beta testers of the new QCP system and the agreement is that QCP is actually going to keep our earnings stable or actually improve them.

The purpose behind the QCP is that EPN does not like people who run to set a bunch of cookies and hope that the consumer buys something. Moreso than that - it is a method created to deter fraudsters who are constantly trying to infiltrate the network.

The Summation is that if you are an honest affiliate for EPN driving quality traffic, you can expect and hope for your earnings to stay stable or even increase.

Now for those Warriors that are not members of the eBay Partner Network. This may be your time to apply as I understand with the change to the new payment model, EPN is going to be a little less stringent on applications -meaning that it may be your chance to get in and get some profitable sites up for the "XMAS shopping rush".

I know personally many members of EPN that make upwards of $100 EPM. That is $100 per 1000 page impressions. Or they earn about 10 cents per page LOAD. Not bad. This can also DOUBLE in November and December.

So to "get accepted into EPN", you need to follow a few guidelines that we have laid out in this PDF. It is normally saved for an Opt-in reward, however we think it is too pertinent to withhold. You can download it directly here
http://www.wpmage.com/EPNApproval.pdf

Also The summary checklist (included in the PDF, but here again for your pleasure)

Ebay Partner Network Acceptance Checklist.

IF ANY OF THESE DO NOT COMPLY- YOU WILL GET REJECTED %90 OF THE TIME

Applying from US/Canada/Western Europe/OZ/NZ - If you are outside these countries, It may be difficult unless you have a really compelling site to show them. And don't bother with proxies. Ebay knows them all
Your IP address matches your Stated Address. (you can't give a US Address, but apply with a Brazilian IP)
Domain has Quality Content that would be relevant to products that eBay sells
Domain is NOT a Review type site.
NO EBAY Ads or other Ads on the Site
Site is registered with PUBLIC Registration for at least 2 years
Public Domain Registration Information and email matches your eBay application information.
Privacy Policy, Terms and Conditions, Contact Information on site.
Your site is aesthetically pleasing and looks like a place the eBay would be proud to have association. (don't forget this one!)

Lastly I know these threads can attract a contingent of posters who come up with the regular "ebay sux" - "the sky is falling" comments. I totally respect your opinions, however lets try to keep this particular thread in a positive light as regardless of your individual opinions, there are alot of people who make "ALOT of money" with EPN and I prefer not to kick a gifthorse in the mouth.

If you have any other questions feel free to post them here.

Thanks!
-Greg Jacobs

p2y · 08-27-2009, 11:36 AM

Good info, I'm surprised at how strict EPN has been with applications lately but I guess they're trying to keep their affiliate program's quality up high.

Greg Jacobs · 08-27-2009, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by p2y

Good info, I'm surprised at how strict EPN has been with applications lately but I guess they're trying to keep their affiliate program's quality up high.

its actually because in the past they had been abused by cookie stuffers, so they basically tried to keep them out at the gates. Now with the new QCP, they can weed them out by basically discounting their traffic, so thus the barrier to get accepted will again be within reach for honest affiliates.

TrishOleary · 08-27-2009, 05:51 PM

This is great news! Thanks for posting this Greg and a BIG thanks for the pdf. My daughter was turned down a few months ago and now I can show her this so maybe she can reapply following these guidelines

webatomic · 08-27-2009, 11:55 PM

I'm wondering what effect these changes will have on my BANS sites. We shall soon see I suppose......

Greg Jacobs · 08-28-2009, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by webatomic

I'm wondering what effect these changes will have on my BANS sites. We shall soon see I suppose......

from my information, it seems that "thin affiliate sites" such as BANS actually do quite well in the new QCP as they are driving traffic that is already searching for the long tail auction term. (Keeping them indexed in google though is another feat of Magic that requires a seperate thread)

For my understanding the types of sites that will not do well, are ones that just drive large amounts of traffic to eBay that is untargeted and just set a cookie and hope the buyer 'accidentally' buys something.

but like you said, we will see for sure very soon...

jeswarrior · 08-29-2009, 04:52 PM

I'd say not to waste your time with EPN. Not worth it. Read the latest from their members:

http://forums.ebay.com/db2/topic/Eba...k-At/520147163

eBay Partner Network (English): Special Discussion Boards Community

Greg Jacobs · 08-29-2009, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeswarrior

I'd say not to waste your time with EPN. Not worth it. Read the latest from their members:

Anybody Look At Their "Preview Report" Yet? in Special Discussion Boards in Community

eBay Partner Network (English): Special Discussion Boards Community

the sky is not falling, but its just a common occurrence whenever the words 'ebay' or 'paypal' are mentioned for a certain contingent to come out of the woodwork.

for the record, my QCP earnings are almost EXACTLY the same in aggregate as my previous earnings. (and I probably make more than all the people that posted on that thread combined - which isnt saying much cause it seems that most of the complainers are making about $100 a month which is not enough data to get an accurate feel for the new system - start driving 1000 unique clicks a day and then we can start to really analyze the data - under that it is a crapshoot)

Some of my big ticket sites took a hit, however lots of my little sites took up the slack. This can be learned for an optimized so I suppose after we get a better handle on how to optimize for the new system, our earnings will increase.

and again for all you nay-sayers. well, just keep complaining and I will just keep earning.

thanks.

JackPowers · 09-11-2009, 02:36 PM

Bumping this thread..

So, if you can not make review type sites, what sites can you make? That sounds against their best interest. If someone is looking to buy a product, why wouldn't they want to read a review? Is the answer to make a general site about the product niche, but not to do any specific product reviews?

john_kennedy · 09-11-2009, 02:40 PM

Tried to get in with 9 year old domain name. Still rejected.

steve-w · 09-11-2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greg Jacobs

Ebay Partner Network Acceptance Checklist.

IF ANY OF THESE DO NOT COMPLY- YOU WILL GET REJECTED %90 OF THE TIME

Applying from US/Canada/Western Europe/OZ/NZ - If you are outside these countries, It may be difficult unless you have a really compelling site to show them. And don't bother with proxies. Ebay knows them all
Your IP address matches your Stated Address. (you can't give a US Address, but apply with a Brazilian IP)
Domain has Quality Content that would be relevant to products that eBay sells
Domain is NOT a Review type site.
NO EBAY Ads or other Ads on the Site
Site is registered with PUBLIC Registration for at least 2 years
Public Domain Registration Information and email matches your eBay application information.
Privacy Policy, Terms and Conditions, Contact Information on site.
Your site is aesthetically pleasing and looks like a place the eBay would be proud to have association. (don't forget this one!)

I just got rejected a couple of weeks ago with a new site I had just put up.

So, I see where you can't have any other ads. Does this mean adsence too! That might be why they rejected it.

But anyway, I've got a site that's been up for about 5 years now I was going to see if that will work!

Steven

john_kennedy · 09-11-2009, 03:29 PM

I had no ads on my site whatsoever. It also isn't a review site.

John

bingbong · 09-15-2009, 05:50 AM

I been rejected too. I don't know probably i'm from asia and my site probably not good enough.

Alexgrett · 09-15-2009, 11:45 AM

Thanks for the info!

Foforuman · 10-15-2009, 09:27 AM

Thank you very much. Excellent info..

adum · 10-15-2009, 09:52 AM

damn I didn't realize you couldn't have ANY ads whatsoever...so EPN has can be your ONLY ads on your site? no adsense at all (even after you are accepted)?

Shane Dolby · 10-15-2009, 11:42 AM

if you have been accespted than yes you can have adsense on the website.

By the way when Greg Talks about anything EPN its good to listen.

Shane

whateverpedia · 10-18-2009, 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adum

damn I didn't realize you couldn't have ANY ads whatsoever...so EPN has can be your ONLY ads on your site? no adsense at all (even after you are accepted)?

I'm not too sure about that. I applied with a site that had adsense on it and got accepted right away. Mind you, ALL the other criteria were met.

erazer · 10-23-2009, 02:45 PM

It would really help if we clarified the adsense thing. Why, according to the pdf, is adsense a killer? Is it OK to put adsense in after being accepted? Has anyone done it? Ebay in its wisdom does not say anything about this clearly so how's a person to know. I just got rejected with an antique site that had some adsense in it. I guess I'll just have to make another, let it ripen without any adsense or anything (be a public service) and hope things happen in a year or so. I've been a long time ebay and paypal user with 100% positive feedback and this does kind of leave a bitter taste.

08-27-2009, 11:29 AM	#1
Greg Jacobs Mage War Room Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Chiang Mai Posts: 484 Thanks: 20 Thanked 207 Times in 76 Posts Social Networking	eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN For those Warriors that are in EPN world, we know that this week has brought lots of interesting news. In the forefront is the new QCP (Quality Click Pricing) in which EPN has stated that we will be paid on the dynamic basis per the quality of our clicks. Now I have had some discussions with a few of the Beta testers of the new QCP system and the agreement is that QCP is actually going to keep our earnings stable or actually improve them. The purpose behind the QCP is that EPN does not like people who run to set a bunch of cookies and hope that the consumer buys something. Moreso than that - it is a method created to deter fraudsters who are constantly trying to infiltrate the network. The Summation is that if you are an honest affiliate for EPN driving quality traffic, you can expect and hope for your earnings to stay stable or even increase. Now for those Warriors that are not members of the eBay Partner Network. This may be your time to apply as I understand with the change to the new payment model, EPN is going to be a little less stringent on applications -meaning that it may be your chance to get in and get some profitable sites up for the "XMAS shopping rush". I know personally many members of EPN that make upwards of $100 EPM. That is $100 per 1000 page impressions. Or they earn about 10 cents per page LOAD. Not bad. This can also DOUBLE in November and December. So to "get accepted into EPN", you need to follow a few guidelines that we have laid out in this PDF. It is normally saved for an Opt-in reward, however we think it is too pertinent to withhold. You can download it directly here http://www.wpmage.com/EPNApproval.pdf Also The summary checklist (included in the PDF, but here again for your pleasure) Ebay Partner Network Acceptance Checklist. IF ANY OF THESE DO NOT COMPLY- YOU WILL GET REJECTED %90 OF THE TIME Applying from US/Canada/Western Europe/OZ/NZ - If you are outside these countries, It may be difficult unless you have a really compelling site to show them. And don't bother with proxies. Ebay knows them all Your IP address matches your Stated Address. (you can't give a US Address, but apply with a Brazilian IP) Domain has Quality Content that would be relevant to products that eBay sells Domain is NOT a Review type site. NO EBAY Ads or other Ads on the Site Site is registered with PUBLIC Registration for at least 2 years Public Domain Registration Information and email matches your eBay application information. Privacy Policy, Terms and Conditions, Contact Information on site. Your site is aesthetically pleasing and looks like a place the eBay would be proud to have association. (don't forget this one!) Lastly I know these threads can attract a contingent of posters who come up with the regular "ebay sux" - "the sky is falling" comments. I totally respect your opinions, however lets try to keep this particular thread in a positive light as regardless of your individual opinions, there are alot of people who make "ALOT of money" with EPN and I prefer not to kick a gifthorse in the mouth. If you have any other questions feel free to post them here. Thanks! -Greg Jacobs
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08-27-2009, 11:36 AM	#2
p2y Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 508 Thanks: 9 Thanked 188 Times in 57 Posts	Re: eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN Good info, I'm surprised at how strict EPN has been with applications lately but I guess they're trying to keep their affiliate program's quality up high.
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TrishOleary HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: The Great Northwest Posts: 122 Thanks: 100 Thanked 64 Times in 56 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN This is great news! Thanks for posting this Greg and a BIG thanks for the pdf. My daughter was turned down a few months ago and now I can show her this so maybe she can reapply following these guidelines
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08-27-2009, 11:55 PM	#5
webatomic HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: California Posts: 472 Thanks: 6 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN I'm wondering what effect these changes will have on my BANS sites. We shall soon see I suppose......
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08-29-2009, 04:52 PM	#7
jeswarrior Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 84 Thanks: 2 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN I'd say not to waste your time with EPN. Not worth it. Read the latest from their members: http://forums.ebay.com/db2/topic/Eba...k-At/520147163 eBay Partner Network (English): Special Discussion Boards Community

09-11-2009, 02:36 PM	#9
JackPowers Freeman War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 740 Thanks: 85 Thanked 99 Times in 74 Posts	Re: eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN Bumping this thread.. So, if you can not make review type sites, what sites can you make? That sounds against their best interest. If someone is looking to buy a product, why wouldn't they want to read a review? Is the answer to make a general site about the product niche, but not to do any specific product reviews?

09-11-2009, 02:40 PM	#10
john_kennedy HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mobile, AL , USA. Posts: 339 Thanks: 84 Thanked 63 Times in 56 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN Tried to get in with 9 year old domain name. Still rejected.

09-11-2009, 03:29 PM	#12
john_kennedy HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mobile, AL , USA. Posts: 339 Thanks: 84 Thanked 63 Times in 56 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN I had no ads on my site whatsoever. It also isn't a review site. John

09-15-2009, 05:50 AM	#13
bingbong Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN I been rejected too. I don't know probably i'm from asia and my site probably not good enough.

09-15-2009, 11:45 AM	#14
Alexgrett Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 44 Thanks: 3 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN Thanks for the info!

10-15-2009, 09:27 AM	#15
Foforuman Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN Thank you very much. Excellent info..

10-15-2009, 09:52 AM	#16
adum Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 9 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN damn I didn't realize you couldn't have ANY ads whatsoever...so EPN has can be your ONLY ads on your site? no adsense at all (even after you are accepted)?

10-15-2009, 11:42 AM	#17
Shane Dolby Wow Can You Believe It! War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Oklahoma city,ok , USA. Posts: 625 Thanks: 7 Thanked 37 Times in 28 Posts Social Networking	Re: eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN if you have been accespted than yes you can have adsense on the website. By the way when Greg Talks about anything EPN its good to listen. Shane

10-23-2009, 02:45 PM	#19
erazer Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 87 Thanks: 244 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: eBays new QCP and How to get Accepted into EPN It would really help if we clarified the adsense thing. Why, according to the pdf, is adsense a killer? Is it OK to put adsense in after being accepted? Has anyone done it? Ebay in its wisdom does not say anything about this clearly so how's a person to know. I just got rejected with an antique site that had some adsense in it. I guess I'll just have to make another, let it ripen without any adsense or anything (be a public service) and hope things happen in a year or so. I've been a long time ebay and paypal user with 100% positive feedback and this does kind of leave a bitter taste.