Can networks really tell?

Andrew Kryzak · 08-27-2009, 01:57 PM

Hey Warriors,

I've been hearing a lot of contradictory views on something.

Lets say an offer only allows for search and email promotion. You want to promote using video or offline techniques instead. You send all the traffic you generate with these methods to your own domain you've purchased and then onto the CPA landing page.

Will the network be able to tell where the traffic was initially generated from? Will they know it came from a video site like youtube and not from PPC or search?

How does this work? The above scenario is just an imaginary example. I'm not saying I want to break the offers TOS. I'm just curious as to how accurately they can determine the source of traffic if you send it through your own domain first.

Thanks for your help on this!

Andrew

Affiliace.com · 08-27-2009, 02:34 PM

Anyone can do a search to see which sites are linking in to yours. But if the source of the traffic does not come directly from a URL, I suppose they would only find it if they know about the source.

Jcsarokin · 08-27-2009, 03:10 PM

They can definately tell how your promoting via the referrer. They are smarter then you think lol.

p2y · 08-27-2009, 10:35 PM

It's best to speak with your affiliate manager and ask, some offers say "search and email only" but would more than welcome offline advertising or print ads. The problem is they can't list EVERY promotion method allowed, otherwise it would be a very big list of allowed vs not allowed so they stick to the main 4: search, email, banners, and contextual (ppv)

Fraggler · 08-27-2009, 11:20 PM

They can't tell from the referrer if you are sending them to your own landing page. The landing page will become the referrer. The only way they can tell is if they stumble across your video or they survey a customer and they tell them where they found the offer.

bozz723 · 08-28-2009, 11:41 AM

You can cloak your link and block the referrer any way. However the network will see that your site is the referrer if you are using a landing page. They can look up links to your site and find the video that way.

Promoting like this will not get you banned and if you do get caught I doubt your commissions would even get reversed, but they may.

Kenster · 08-28-2009, 12:54 PM

Yes there are tricky ways to hide referrers and fake them, but networks will normally deny commissions if they find out. Its a balancing act with hiding referrer because the networks want to know as much about your traffic as possible and you want to protect your traffic in many instances but still get your commissions.

That is why it is so important to build a relationship with your ams

If you arent blocking, blanking, or hiding, they will normally be able to see exactly where your traffic is from

08-27-2009, 01:57 PM	#1
Andrew Kryzak Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oregon, USA. Posts: 669 Thanks: 22 Thanked 27 Times in 22 Posts	Can networks really tell? Hey Warriors, I've been hearing a lot of contradictory views on something. Lets say an offer only allows for search and email promotion. You want to promote using video or offline techniques instead. You send all the traffic you generate with these methods to your own domain you've purchased and then onto the CPA landing page. Will the network be able to tell where the traffic was initially generated from? Will they know it came from a video site like youtube and not from PPC or search? How does this work? The above scenario is just an imaginary example. I'm not saying I want to break the offers TOS. I'm just curious as to how accurately they can determine the source of traffic if you send it through your own domain first. Thanks for your help on this! Andrew
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08-27-2009, 02:34 PM	#2
Affiliace.com Active Warrior Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Thousand Oaks, CA, USA. Posts: 35 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Can networks really tell? Anyone can do a search to see which sites are linking in to yours. But if the source of the traffic does not come directly from a URL, I suppose they would only find it if they know about the source.
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08-27-2009, 03:10 PM	#3
Jcsarokin Nova Corp Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Beverly Hills Posts: 25 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Contact Info	Re: Can networks really tell? They can definately tell how your promoting via the referrer. They are smarter then you think lol.

08-27-2009, 10:35 PM	#4
p2y Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 508 Thanks: 9 Thanked 187 Times in 57 Posts	Re: Can networks really tell? It's best to speak with your affiliate manager and ask, some offers say "search and email only" but would more than welcome offline advertising or print ads. The problem is they can't list EVERY promotion method allowed, otherwise it would be a very big list of allowed vs not allowed so they stick to the main 4: search, email, banners, and contextual (ppv)
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08-27-2009, 11:20 PM	#5
Fraggler Troy Steele War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 1,699 Thanks: 701 Thanked 464 Times in 300 Posts Social Networking	Re: Can networks really tell? They can't tell from the referrer if you are sending them to your own landing page. The landing page will become the referrer. The only way they can tell is if they stumble across your video or they survey a customer and they tell them where they found the offer.
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08-28-2009, 11:41 AM	#6
bozz723 Advanced Warrior Join Date: May 2006 Location: , , . Posts: 544 Thanks: 6 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Can networks really tell? You can cloak your link and block the referrer any way. However the network will see that your site is the referrer if you are using a landing page. They can look up links to your site and find the video that way. Promoting like this will not get you banned and if you do get caught I doubt your commissions would even get reversed, but they may.
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08-28-2009, 12:54 PM	#7
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,089 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 581 Thanked 1,888 Times in 842 Posts	Re: Can networks really tell? Yes there are tricky ways to hide referrers and fake them, but networks will normally deny commissions if they find out. Its a balancing act with hiding referrer because the networks want to know as much about your traffic as possible and you want to protect your traffic in many instances but still get your commissions. That is why it is so important to build a relationship with your ams If you arent blocking, blanking, or hiding, they will normally be able to see exactly where your traffic is from