CPA network RevenueLoop asking me to uncloak

yuvcram · 09-11-2009, 05:32 PM

I've running a relatively successful offer on the CPA network Revenueloop using PPV/CPV (pay per view or cost per view) and tracking my cloaked URLS with Prsoper202. Now my affiliate manager wants me to uncloak my URLs because he says:

Our QA team does not allow cloaked URLs. The reason they do not allow cloaked URLs is because all of our Super Affiliates whom do massive amounts of volume do not cloak their URLs. Since we pay our affiliates for the leads that come through we feel that we are entitled to view the sources of the traffic you are sending to us. We would love to help you further in converting even better with our offers but I am afraid we will be unable to do so with your links being cloaked

Is that true in the CPA industry or not?

tmedocianis · 09-11-2009, 05:40 PM

If you're sending CPV traffic to an offer that is not CPV Qualified, then you're probably already busted. It sounds like they suspect you of something.

HDRider · 09-11-2009, 05:41 PM

That's funny, never heard that one... so in other words, please uncloak your links so we can see where your traffic is coming from, we want to steal your keywords and cut you out of the picture.

yuvcram · 09-11-2009, 05:41 PM

No, I asked my affiliate manager prior to utilizing traffic from MediaTraffic and he said that he would need to approve the creative but it's just a direct link to the offer landing page.

But for an affiliate manager to ask you to uncloak your links, that's doesn't sound right to me.

todd40fla · 09-11-2009, 06:56 PM

there is certainly no shortage of cpa networks out there.....and from my experience most basically feature the same if not very similar offers.

i would look for another company to work with and switch asap. then email the guy and tell him not to worry, that you would rather pull the campaign than possibly open it up for others to profit from your hard work.

my only concern is that they might withold payment....but it looks like that is where this might be headed anyway.

yukinara · 09-11-2009, 07:31 PM

just switch over to another network, revenueloop is not the only one in the world. If you are doing things right, and don't want anyone steal your hard work, them it;s time to move

Robert_Rand · 09-11-2009, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuvcram

I've running a relatively successful offer on the CPA network Revenueloop using PPV/CPV (pay per view or cost per view) and tracking my cloaked URLS with Prsoper202. Now my affiliate manager wants me to uncloak my URLs because he says:

Our QA team does not allow cloaked URLs. The reason they do not allow cloaked URLs is because all of our Super Affiliates whom do massive amounts of volume do not cloak their URLs. Since we pay our affiliates for the leads that come through we feel that we are entitled to view the sources of the traffic you are sending to us. We would love to help you further in converting even better with our offers but I am afraid we will be unable to do so with your links being cloaked

Is that true in the CPA industry or not?

I'd reply with this:

Hey [firstname],

I completely understand your concern. That makes sense. However, at this time I'm not comfortable with your request. I'm confident in the quality of my traffic but prefer to keep my traffic sources private. I hope you can understand. Unfortunately, you leave me no choice but to promote a similar offer somewhere else.

All the best,
yuvcram

p2y · 09-11-2009, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yuvcram

Our QA team does not allow cloaked URLs. The reason they do not allow cloaked URLs is because all of our Super Affiliates whom do massive amounts of volume do not cloak their URLs. Since we pay our affiliates for the leads that come through we feel that we are entitled to view the sources of the traffic you are sending to us. We would love to help you further in converting even better with our offers but I am afraid we will be unable to do so with your links being cloaked

Is that true in the CPA industry or not?

100% FALSE

Go to offervault and find another network that is carrying that offer and promote it through there. No sensible affiliate manager would ever dare ask an affiliate to reveal their sources, especially a "super affiliate" because they would just laugh in the affiliate manager's face.

yuvcram · 09-11-2009, 11:55 PM

Thanks so much for all the advice! I definitely thought it was phishy for even your affiliate manager to ask you to uncloak your URLs.

young-Money · 09-12-2009, 02:22 PM

WTF! They want you to uncloak so that they can steal your successful campaign period! switch network mate..

Cash37 · 09-12-2009, 02:50 PM

I tell my managers where I want to promote offers, but I don't let them see the referrer still... its too easy in this industry for you to get ****ed (excuse my french)

tmedocianis · 09-12-2009, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by young-Money

WTF! They want you to uncloak so that they can steal your successful campaign period! switch network mate..

They don't need you to uncloak to steal you campaign, it just makes it easier. There is no way to make you campaign safe from theft, only safer, not safe.

TE2 · 09-13-2009, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert_Rand

I'd reply with this:

Hey [firstname],

I completely understand your concern. That makes sense. However, at this time I'm not comfortable with your request. I'm confident in the quality of my traffic but prefer to keep my traffic sources private. I hope you can understand. Unfortunately, you leave me no choice but to promote a similar offer somewhere else.

All the best,
yuvcram

Ditto - tell them no. If your traffic is quality that is all they need to know.

If that isn't good enough, promote the same offer from a different network.

John

Robert_Rand · 09-13-2009, 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robert_Rand

I'd reply with this:

Hey [firstname],

I completely understand your concern. That makes sense. However, at this time I'm not comfortable with your request. I'm confident in the quality of my traffic but prefer to keep my traffic sources private. I hope you can understand. Unfortunately, you leave me no choice but to promote a similar offer somewhere else.

All the best,
yuvcram

You really don't even need to give them an explanation. I just suggested sending that email for entertainment purposes more than anything else.

And of course don't forget to CC his superiors on it

PPC-Coach · 09-13-2009, 10:03 PM

It's very sad that affiliates actually think this way.

Where'd I put my tinfoil hat...?

09-11-2009, 05:32 PM	#1
yuvcram Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	CPA network RevenueLoop asking me to uncloak I've running a relatively successful offer on the CPA network Revenueloop using PPV/CPV (pay per view or cost per view) and tracking my cloaked URLS with Prsoper202. Now my affiliate manager wants me to uncloak my URLs because he says: Our QA team does not allow cloaked URLs. The reason they do not allow cloaked URLs is because all of our Super Affiliates whom do massive amounts of volume do not cloak their URLs. Since we pay our affiliates for the leads that come through we feel that we are entitled to view the sources of the traffic you are sending to us. We would love to help you further in converting even better with our offers but I am afraid we will be unable to do so with your links being cloaked Is that true in the CPA industry or not?

09-11-2009, 05:40 PM	#2
tmedocianis Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: , , . Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: CPA network RevenueLoop asking me to uncloak If you're sending CPV traffic to an offer that is not CPV Qualified, then you're probably already busted. It sounds like they suspect you of something.

09-11-2009, 05:41 PM	#3
HDRider Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SW Florida Posts: 75 Thanks: 11 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Re: CPA network RevenueLoop asking me to uncloak That's funny, never heard that one... so in other words, please uncloak your links so we can see where your traffic is coming from, we want to steal your keywords and cut you out of the picture.

09-11-2009, 05:41 PM	#4
yuvcram Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: CPA network RevenueLoop asking me to uncloak No, I asked my affiliate manager prior to utilizing traffic from MediaTraffic and he said that he would need to approve the creative but it's just a direct link to the offer landing page. But for an affiliate manager to ask you to uncloak your links, that's doesn't sound right to me.

09-11-2009, 06:56 PM	#5
todd40fla HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 132 Thanks: 7 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts	Re: CPA network RevenueLoop asking me to uncloak there is certainly no shortage of cpa networks out there.....and from my experience most basically feature the same if not very similar offers. i would look for another company to work with and switch asap. then email the guy and tell him not to worry, that you would rather pull the campaign than possibly open it up for others to profit from your hard work. my only concern is that they might withold payment....but it looks like that is where this might be headed anyway.

09-11-2009, 07:31 PM	#6
yukinara HyperActive Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 194 Thanks: 0 Thanked 40 Times in 26 Posts	Re: CPA network RevenueLoop asking me to uncloak just switch over to another network, revenueloop is not the only one in the world. If you are doing things right, and don't want anyone steal your hard work, them it;s time to move

09-11-2009, 11:55 PM	#9
yuvcram Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: CPA network RevenueLoop asking me to uncloak Thanks so much for all the advice! I definitely thought it was phishy for even your affiliate manager to ask you to uncloak your URLs.

09-12-2009, 02:22 PM	#10
young-Money HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 163 Thanks: 2 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: CPA network RevenueLoop asking me to uncloak WTF! They want you to uncloak so that they can steal your successful campaign period! switch network mate..

09-12-2009, 02:50 PM	#11
Cash37 Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: North Carolina, USA. Posts: 2,134 Thanks: 153 Thanked 182 Times in 108 Posts Social Networking	Re: CPA network RevenueLoop asking me to uncloak I tell my managers where I want to promote offers, but I don't let them see the referrer still... its too easy in this industry for you to get ****ed (excuse my french)
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09-13-2009, 10:03 PM	#15
PPC-Coach Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 2,543 Thanks: 44 Thanked 662 Times in 379 Posts	Re: CPA network RevenueLoop asking me to uncloak It's very sad that affiliates actually think this way. Where'd I put my tinfoil hat...?