How Stupid Do You Think CPA Networks Are or How NOT to Get Approved

5starAffiliatePrograms · 10-08-2009, 02:59 PM

There is a post in this section of the WF titled "How to Get Accepted Into Any CPA Network". Some of the suggestions in that post are not very high integrity and basically suggest lying in a variety of ways to get approved by networks.

Jim Lillig, "the CPA Guy" called out this article in his newsletter and I thought it might be good to share his viewpoints.

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How Stupid Do You Think CPA Networks Are?

"He also tells would be CPA affiliates that lying is OK. Apparently, he really only wants to sell his $7 eBook that he backs end the report with...

As a CPA Network Marketer, my only response to this guy and all the would be followers he is amassing, what are stupid? CPA Networks are getting tougher to join because of precisely this sort of mis-information and blatant coaching people to lie their way into a network...

Are they that naive to think that screening affiliates is performed by morons? Because anyone who has worked in this industry on the Network side can spot BS walking a mile away. If you cannot prove where your traffic comes from, you have no track record and you are evasive in your answers, your chances of getting into a quality network is zero."

And you wonder why networks have gotten so strict.
It's because of advice like what you find in that original WF post.

What do you think???

PPV Guru · 10-08-2009, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by 5starAffiliatePrograms

There is a post in this section of the WF titled "How to Get Accepted Into Any CPA Network". Some of the suggestions in that post are not very high integrity and basically suggest lying in a variety of ways to get approved by networks.

Jim Lillig, "the CPA Guy" called out this article in his newsletter and I thought it might be good to share his viewpoints.

And you wonder why networks have gotten so strict.
It's because of advice like what you find in that original WF post.

What do you think???

Also, in the end, if you join them and start sending them BS traffic, they're gonna know in seconds. You'll just get banned. Keep in mind also that, most of these networks, use the same tracking system.

If you get banned from one, this report goes out to all of the CPA networks who use that tracking system so they'll know you're gonna send fake traffic soon as you hit the "submit" button.

dpowermedia · 10-08-2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PPV Guru

if you join them and start sending them BS traffic, they're gonna know in seconds.

That's very true. Some of us are plugged into the advertiser's back end metrics, so we see exactly how the traffic performs for the advertiser. It's not the Wild West anymore. There are so many different sets of numbers that are watched now. If your traffic deviates from the average behavior established by legitimate traffic, automatic alarms go off, bringing attention to your account.

PPV Guru · 10-08-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dpowermedia

That's very true. Some of us are plugged into the advertiser's back end metrics, so we see exactly how the traffic performs for the advertiser. It's not the Wild West anymore. There are so many different sets of numbers that are watched now. If your traffic deviates from the average behavior established by legitimate traffic, automatic alarms go off, bringing attention to your account.

EXACTLY!!

I have 4 friends who run CPA networks and I've seen their backend tracking system. Plus, one of my buddies is a top director at ClickBooth. I KNOW what goes on behind the scenes.

These people aren't fooling anyone anymore. You HAVE to be honest.

Some of my friends I've gotten into CPA networks, I told them to be honest. Tell them, hey, I'm new to all of this. But, at the same time, my intent is to send quality traffic from PPC, banners, etc and to run an ethical business.

Then...follow through with your promises!

You'll find that most AM's will give you inside scoops on what's REALLY converting a lot better if you show honesty and just communicate with them as if they were a friend.

Kenster · 10-08-2009, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by PPV Guru

EXACTLY!!

I have 4 friends who run CPA networks and I've seen their backend tracking system. Plus, one of my buddies is a top director at ClickBooth. I KNOW what goes on behind the scenes.

These people aren't fooling anyone anymore. You HAVE to be honest.

Some of my friends I've gotten into CPA networks, I told them to be honest. Tell them, hey, I'm new to all of this. But, at the same time, my intent is to send quality traffic from PPC, banners, etc and to run an ethical business.

Then...follow through with your promises!

You'll find that most AM's will give you inside scoops on what's REALLY converting a lot better if you show honesty and just communicate with them as if they were a friend.

100% true. Even if you are new and unlikely to bring a load of traffic, affiliate managers will like your honesty and give you hints. Remember, they want you to do well and want legit traffic. If you are open with them (as much as you can be) then they will help you out.

In some cases you can't be 100% transparent because you need to protect your high earning campaigns and keywords, but they understand it.

PPV Guru · 10-08-2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenster

100% true. Even if you are new and unlikely to bring a load of traffic, affiliate managers will like your honesty and give you hints. Remember, they want you to do well and want legit traffic. If you are open with them (as much as you can be) then they will help you out.

In some cases you can't be 100% transparent because you need to protect your high earning campaigns and keywords, but they understand it.

Good stuff man.

Keep in mind, this is a business. Everyone is happy when legitimate income is being made because it means that refunds are unlikely or at least greatly reduced. AM's get paid on commission too. The more you make, the more THEY make.

Win win.

Lukedell · 10-08-2009, 05:02 PM

On the subject of being up front and honest, I have managed to get into some of the bigger CPA Networks but I am currently not successful with CPAlead. A lot of the networks do not like incentivized traffic but I was told that I cannot be accepted into CPAlead unless I incentivize their offers.

I don't want to do anything black hat but can you guys explain to me how to incentivize offers to drive quality traffic to their offers. For all other networks I only do PPC. I have no problems with SEO, article or video marketing but was after quick results to test.

Luke

PPV Guru · 10-08-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Lukedell

On the subject of being up front and honest, I have managed to get into some of the bigger CPA Networks but I am currently not successful with CPAlead. A lot of the networks do not like incentivized traffic but I was told that I cannot be accepted into CPAlead unless I incentivize their offers.

I don't want to do anything black hat but can you guys explain to me how to incentivize offers to drive quality traffic to their offers. For all other networks I only do PPC. I have no problems with SEO, article or video marketing but was after quick results to test.

Luke

Hi Luke,

All they want really is for you to have some sort of point or rewards system setup for people to earn the "right" to get a "free product" (CPA Lead) or a discounted product (CPA Sale product). You would need a website to do this.

For example, you could start a "get free products to read emails" site where you reward email readers point values towards an item of your choice (either a cpa product or your own product). So, say I read 15 of your emails you sent me. When I reach 20 I'll be able to get something free or discounted that you have to offer.

Meanwhile, these emails that you're sending them to from CPA networks. I hope I'm not confusing you with this, but this is just an example of what you can do.

Lukedell · 10-08-2009, 06:29 PM

I sort of understand. Does this mean I need to come up with my own promotion say for free ebooks or a newsletter that people need to subscribe to in order to get the chance to win a free product through my CPA lead?

What else can you offer someone when you're already trying to get their interest with the CPA offer?

Wouldn't the CPA offer itself be the incentive and I could just drive traffic to my site for free information and have them click on my offer?

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Lukedell Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How Stupid Do You Think CPA Networks Are or How NOT to Get Approved On the subject of being up front and honest, I have managed to get into some of the bigger CPA Networks but I am currently not successful with CPAlead. A lot of the networks do not like incentivized traffic but I was told that I cannot be accepted into CPAlead unless I incentivize their offers. I don't want to do anything black hat but can you guys explain to me how to incentivize offers to drive quality traffic to their offers. For all other networks I only do PPC. I have no problems with SEO, article or video marketing but was after quick results to test. Luke

10-08-2009, 06:29 PM	#9
Lukedell Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: How Stupid Do You Think CPA Networks Are or How NOT to Get Approved I sort of understand. Does this mean I need to come up with my own promotion say for free ebooks or a newsletter that people need to subscribe to in order to get the chance to win a free product through my CPA lead? What else can you offer someone when you're already trying to get their interest with the CPA offer? Wouldn't the CPA offer itself be the incentive and I could just drive traffic to my site for free information and have them click on my offer?