I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?

Andrew Zapp · 01-15-2012, 11:40 PM

Well done. It's all about working hard for your dollar. Good to see how quick you've come in such a short time. I expect that now you're making a lot more.

joelraitt · 01-17-2012, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by outwest

Hi Joel,
I firmly believe what you said is possible but this is what I am confused about

you say in July you made less than $100, Ok I understand you learn quickly find something that works, scale up, throw out bad campaigns, test test, test, scale up etc

but as far as I can see the limiting factor which would constantly come up with newbies like you were at the time, like I am at the present time, is the 30 days NET program most sponsors put newbies on.

Can you give an example of how its possible to achieve these numbers, and scale up? I cannot imagine some numbers like this being possible unless someone had like 10,000 to 20,000 dollars budget to start with. Can you explain the possible scenario this involves in this short period of time by scaling up from a small amount of initial budget

But do not take this as me doubting your numbers, It is just I cannot envision the timetables involved and how the numbers work

Fair enough, i think i went over this somewhere...but one of the smartest things I did was got as much credit as possible BEFORE my big campaign.

Again, I was lucky enough to have a friend who funded me, I even had to borrow a bit from my parents...when the opportunity is there you have to take it.

It was risky but paid off...I had all cards maxed, no money in the bank, and I had borrowed 35,000. Fun stuff...and scary.

roadies9 · 01-17-2012, 04:55 AM

u are usring adsense or any other ads network.Anywzyz congrats for ur success

joelraitt · 01-19-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by MarathonMan

JoelRaitt - first, as a successful IM trying to get into CPA marketing for the first time, this thread has been the most useful I have found, anywhere. Thank you, from me and everyone else in my shoes!

I'm about to get down and dirty and try my first campaign. What traffic source do you believe is the best and easiest to work with for someone preparing to test and learn wit their first campaign? How long should I run my first test campaign before modifying / aborting?

Hey MarathonMan,

I prefer to run ads on facebook, the targeting is great and the traffic is almost limitless. Which means it's possible to scale.

I'd test stuff on FB with really tight demographic and keyword targeting...go for high ROI and low spend to start. All the big guys do low targeting with big spend but ROI is usualy a bit tighter (but more profit overall).

Let it run long enough...its hard to say really...I've ran an add in the evening and spent $200 with no sales....ran the same ad the next morning and it was 100% ROI or somewhere around there....and it stayed like that...you just never know....go with your gut.

HAWTs · 01-19-2012, 03:06 PM

Well done... I am a begnniner at CPA networks.

RyanAlsaiad · 01-19-2012, 03:20 PM

How Much Did You Paid ??
And Which Network Have You Choosen

Good Luck

perfectlovehere · 01-19-2012, 07:13 PM

Wow congratulations! That's a huge deal! Nice job and keep up the great work. But don't forget other things in life too!

joelraitt · 01-19-2012, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nicnac03

So you're saying lead gens are dead on Facebook now? On a previous post you said the initial campaign that you ran is now dead.

Leadgen is far from dead....just this specific offer is no longer available. Sorry for the confusion.

joelraitt · 01-19-2012, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CindyRoosen

means, if we don't have capital, we can't start CPA?

Not at all...of course you till can....just be ready...have credit available to use on a ALREADY PROFITABLE campaign...

Also...if you find a offer that's working for you...and you're running out of money...tell the network...they will give you better terms

The network I was working with was paying me 2x a week just so I could keep paying my bills!!!!

There is always a way...

rkat55 · 01-19-2012, 08:15 PM

Joel, thanks for wasting the last hour of my time reading
this whole dang thread. JUST KIDDING!

Great thread. Really really valuable information.

Thanks, thanks thanks! Hope you keep this going.

Reminds of years ago, when I was into commodity trading
and a guy with a ton of experience had a huge thread going
on a forum that I don't even think exists anymore and taught
all us newbies a ton of stuff. It was great.

This thread is starting to remind of that.

All the best,

Rick

celente · 01-20-2012, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by joelraitt

Leadgen is far from dead....just this specific offer is no longer available. Sorry for the confusion.

I was wondering about this. I was nearly going to investigate this for myself, but thanks for clearing that up.

chrisjenva · 01-20-2012, 06:30 AM

Wow that's great. I plan on getting into ppc and cpa in the coming months. All the info in this thread has been extremely helpful. Thanks everyone for your input.

kavitapore · 01-20-2012, 11:52 AM

Hello joelraitt and everybody, I am newbai and thanks for discussing this good topic, helped me a lot,

Can any one tell me what is zilch, rebills.
Also I got approved by GoOffers - anybody tell me is it good site.
Also tell me meaning of - (No incentivized traffic is allowed)

what is traking URL, is it same through which i am going to advertise and get paid.
what is impression pixel? is it necessory to add?
what is conversion URL / pixel? Is that code is require?
Each page of detail offer includes following data which is I am not able to understand.
data is...........

Add third-party conversion tracking pixels and postback URLs below. The system will dynamically replace several optional variables.
Add New Conversion Pixels / URL
Type: java / html / image
HTML or JavaScript Code for Client (Cookie) Tracking.
Add Image Pixel:
Plus there are lot of operational variables.

Hope my question will answer sombody by tommrow and then

I might start my 1st CPA campain start within two days!, let's see what happens.

Thanks

zoulaille · 01-20-2012, 12:21 PM

Very motivating post. Thanks!

joelraitt · 01-23-2012, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by kavitapore

Hello joelraitt and everybody, I am newbai and thanks for discussing this good topic, helped me a lot,

Can any one tell me what is zilch, rebills.
Also I got approved by GoOffers - anybody tell me is it good site.
Also tell me meaning of - (No incentivized traffic is allowed)

what is traking URL, is it same through which i am going to advertise and get paid.
what is impression pixel? is it necessory to add?
what is conversion URL / pixel? Is that code is require?
Each page of detail offer includes following data which is I am not able to understand.
data is...........

Add third-party conversion tracking pixels and postback URLs below. The system will dynamically replace several optional variables.
Add New Conversion Pixels / URL
Type: java / html / image
HTML or JavaScript Code for Client (Cookie) Tracking.
Add Image Pixel:
Plus there are lot of operational variables.

Hope my question will answer sombody by tommrow and then

I might start my 1st CPA campain start within two days!, let's see what happens.

Thanks

First off man, lots of this can be found just by g googling it...

Can any one tell me what is zilch, rebills. -
A) rebills = continuous payments (sometimes without people knowing)

Also I got approved by GoOffers - anybody tell me is it good site.
A) never worked with them

Also tell me meaning of - (No incentivized traffic is allowed)

A) it means you cant give the user any 'extra' reason to fill out the offer

what is traking URL, is it same through which i am going to advertise and get paid.
A) Yah, but sometimes people hide or cloak the URL's

what is impression pixel? is it necessory to add?
a) I dont use it ever

what is conversion URL / pixel? Is that code is require?
A) the pixel needs to be placed on the network end to make sure it tracks the conversions. Not sure what you mean by tracking URL / convertion URL. Ask your affiliate manager.

Each page of detail offer includes following data which is I am not able to understand.
data is...........
A) I find the data on offers somewhat useless. EPC (earnings per click) isn't accurate...maybe they are not using a landing page, maybe they are sending ****ty low cost traffic so conversions look low...

joelraitt · 01-23-2012, 01:25 PM

Just thought of this little question i ask my aff managers that makes a big difference...

Everyone always asks... " whats the hot offer, or whats doing really well?" i guess in hope of copying them...or something? Bad idea...all the $$$$ is made in being the first.

Ask your AM - What do you really think could work on (your traffic source here) that not enough people have tested yet?

Now that gets their brain and yours going in the direction of huge success!

fictionaldamo · 01-23-2012, 09:07 PM

Well done gives me hope!

roadranger · 01-24-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by redicelander

I have to say $52K rev with just $13K profit, is really not great. That's a ton of spend for not a lot of profit. But, still, a lot of people would love $13K profit/month so more power to ya. I would suggest you branch in to other areas of paid traffic, however, that you can give you much better ROI.

What are the Tax ramifications on this??
Paid on the revenue, or just the profits?

JasonWestwick · 01-24-2012, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by roadranger

What are the Tax ramifications on this??
Paid on the revenue, or just the profits?

Just the profits the rest is deductible. At least that's how it would work here in the uk.

My traffic expenditure is a business expense.

joelraitt · 01-24-2012, 06:44 PM

Yah Jason is right...well technically advertising cost in that way is considered cost of goods sold in this scenario.

jenniferwhittle · 01-25-2012, 01:19 AM

Hello!

It's so nice hearing all this earnings, it gave me more courage to invest more time in front of my computer. I hope all PPC can can be that generous. But anyway, great share back there! Congratulations!

outwest · 01-25-2012, 03:33 AM

Great to see you are here still at it more than 2 yrs later, very inspiring, I am sure your techniques are even more sophisticated at this point

the fact that you shared a lot of your techniques is also very appreciated by newbies on here like me

joelraitt · 01-25-2012, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by outwest

Great to see you are here still at it more than 2 yrs later, very inspiring, I am sure your techniques are even more sophisticated at this point

the fact that you shared a lot of your techniques is also very appreciated by newbies on here like me

I wouldn't say 'more sophisticated' you're over thinking it man. Simpler the better in my opinion.

Glad you appreciate it.

MIgartua · 01-25-2012, 03:39 PM

Whare are some great PPC sites for cheap clicks? That actually deliver traffic. I'm trying to stay away from the big ones like AdWords and Facebook. Clicks are just too expensive. I tried POF with tight demographics but still spent more than I made.

outwest · 01-25-2012, 04:10 PM

Joel what about people who say, facebook used to be good but now the clicks have gotten too expensive. In the last two years have your click costs shot up?

joelraitt · 01-26-2012, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MIgartua

Whare are some great PPC sites for cheap clicks? That actually deliver traffic. I'm trying to stay away from the big ones like AdWords and Facebook. Clicks are just too expensive. I tried POF with tight demographics but still spent more than I made.

I dunno man, ive always used facebook and pof for traffic, few other places as well. I tried sitescout once and had mixed results...i dont think i tested enough though.

also, with good ads clicks are cheap...what does to expensive mean anyways? id pay 10 bucks a click if it paid me 20 a click on the affiliate side

joelraitt · 01-26-2012, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by precious007

not sure how many would actually risk that kind of money.

but then again, business in general means risk.

I didn't see it as a risk....the campgain made money, the network (neverblue) was reliable and I had met them in person, i was getting paid 1-2 times a week...so I limited my risk as much as I could.

If you don't scale your campaign someone else will find it and scale it

webdave · 01-26-2012, 02:50 PM

Great thread and congrats on your success... A couple of questions -
When you started you said that you tried 2 different lp's . Did you notice a big difference in conversions between the 2? How important were the landing pages to your success?
And were you running the campaigns continuously or just at specific times of the day?

tylerjaysen · 01-26-2012, 04:21 PM

yeah I like this post because it brings out so many different opinions. I always laugh when I see these claims about making huge amounts of money in a month. Usually if it's done via PPC then they have spent a ton of dough to make that big money.

So yeah as someone said in post above, then net revenue is all that matters. The profit or the net result is what you have to spend. Of course you also have to factor in the tax portion too.

But yeah making $50k in a month can be done via PPC, but how much did it cost you in ad spend to make that? $25K spent, so a decent return eh? Doubling your money is very nice. But the problem exists when you want to repeat that same figure the next month. Spend another $25 k? If you do, then you just spent your profit from previous month.

So you must go into this game understanding the ROI (return on investment), and then once you find the winners, you scale it up.

To me, spending $3k and making $10k is a much better return and I can do that all month long with PPC.

joelraitt · 01-26-2012, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by webdave

Great thread and congrats on your success... A couple of questions -
When you started you said that you tried 2 different lp's . Did you notice a big difference in conversions between the 2? How important were the landing pages to your success?
And were you running the campaigns continuously or just at specific times of the day?

Yup there was maybe a 5-10% different in conversions between the LP's. The landing pages made the offer work...i did not work without my landing pages!

I only ran them from about 5am - 1pm, after that it was usually break even...or only make a little bit...

joelraitt · 01-28-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tylerjaysen

yeah I like this post because it brings out so many different opinions. I always laugh when I see these claims about making huge amounts of money in a month. Usually if it's done via PPC then they have spent a ton of dough to make that big money.

So yeah as someone said in post above, then net revenue is all that matters. The profit or the net result is what you have to spend. Of course you also have to factor in the tax portion too.

But yeah making $50k in a month can be done via PPC, but how much did it cost you in ad spend to make that? $25K spent, so a decent return eh? Doubling your money is very nice. But the problem exists when you want to repeat that same figure the next month. Spend another $25 k? If you do, then you just spent your profit from previous month.

So you must go into this game understanding the ROI (return on investment), and then once you find the winners, you scale it up.

To me, spending $3k and making $10k is a much better return and I can do that all month long with PPC.

Hey Tyler,

You're post was kind of confusing... so you would rather spend 3k and earn 10k for 7k profit and a ROI over 200% than spend 25k and bring in 50k for 25k profit...or a 100% ROI? To me that's just plain dumb. ROI doesn't really matter...profit does.

I don't get your comment about the next month spending all the profits of 25k...spending that 25k would bring in the same 50k...earning you another 25k that month, or 50k profit total...

Why does the problem exist when you want to repeat it? You don't think you can keep doing it? I'm confused man...

webdave · 01-31-2012, 12:05 PM

How did you create the LP's - Were you using some kind of software or did you have them made for you?

joelraitt · 02-02-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by webdave

How did you create the LP's - Were you using some kind of software or did you have them made for you?

Hey webdave...the LP design was based off the offer design and colors...this way when they click to the offer page it feels like the same website...I find that`s a good place to start.

You should get your mind out of this `software` bull crap - make your own LP's until you make enough to hire it out...then at least you can make small tweeks to the LP's you have made...saves time more then anything.

Good luck!

Anyone else have any questions?!?!?

Maraun · 02-02-2012, 06:05 PM

Yes, me! Why do I always start reading your thread from page 1 for a few minutes before I realize that this thing is like 3 years old and that I've read it already? Everytime. Single. Time. Gah.

PPCn00b · 02-02-2012, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey webdave...the LP design was based off the offer design and colors...this way when they click to the offer page it feels like the same website...I find that`s a good place to start.

You should get your mind out of this `software` bull crap - make your own LP's until you make enough to hire it out...then at least you can make small tweeks to the LP's you have made...saves time more then anything.

Good luck!

Anyone else have any questions?!?!?

Literally speaking, how do you make a landing page? Do you buy a domain, get hosting, and then use Wordpress? Or is there something other than Wordpress that works better for making LPs?

Also, when starting your ads in Facebook, where do you set your CPC bid given Facebook's suggested range? For example, if they suggest 0.48-1.07, what would you bid when first submitting the ad? I am very new to this, but on my 2nd day I created a profitable campaign that generated a few hundred dollars...however I could not figure out how to draw more traffic and scale up the volume even though I had the money available to do it. When I submit new ads, it seems like they get a reach of only a few hundred people and then stall out, not getting shown very much after that. What am I missing?

Great thread...

sabreena · 02-03-2012, 04:25 AM

Hello,

That is impressive and informative post... thanks....

webdave · 02-03-2012, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by joelraitt

Hey webdave...the LP design was based off the offer design and colors...this way when they click to the offer page it feels like the same website...I find that`s a good place to start.

You should get your mind out of this `software` bull crap - make your own LP's until you make enough to hire it out...then at least you can make small tweeks to the LP's you have made...saves time more then anything.

Good luck!

Anyone else have any questions?!?!?

OK then were you taking the offer page and then editing it with GIMP or Photoshop to make it into a LP?

joelraitt · 02-08-2012, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by PPCn00b

Literally speaking, how do you make a landing page? Do you buy a domain, get hosting, and then use Wordpress? Or is there something other than Wordpress that works better for making LPs?

Also, when starting your ads in Facebook, where do you set your CPC bid given Facebook's suggested range? For example, if they suggest 0.48-1.07, what would you bid when first submitting the ad? I am very new to this, but on my 2nd day I created a profitable campaign that generated a few hundred dollars...however I could not figure out how to draw more traffic and scale up the volume even though I had the money available to do it. When I submit new ads, it seems like they get a reach of only a few hundred people and then stall out, not getting shown very much after that. What am I missing?

Great thread...

Good questions...

I always like to bid at the top of the sug or above to start, giving the ad the top spot and hopefully a better CTR. What do you have your daily budget set at? Try increasing that?

It's a lot about testing man, keep inceasing bids till you get traffic!

Nice work!

joelraitt · 02-08-2012, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by webdave

OK then were you taking the offer page and then editing it with GIMP or Photoshop to make it into a LP?

Or sometimes you can just go files save as, webpage...then use the files in dreamweaver and make the edits you want. Or what I do is just hire someone to make a copy of the page with an easy to edit images, bullet points, headline...or w/e i want on the page...I just show them the offer page so then they know to base everything off that!

joelraitt · 02-12-2012, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Maraun

Yes, me! Why do I always start reading your thread from page 1 for a few minutes before I realize that this thing is like 3 years old and that I've read it already? Everytime. Single. Time. Gah.

haha I guess it's just that good of a thread....plus all the info is still accurate today...not much has changed in the way of fundamentals!

aryangarg · 02-13-2012, 04:43 PM

Google Adwords killing small players since 2011 ;( .. I made more than $200k profit using adword in 2010 by investing just 30k USD. but after google changed their terms. Profit tanked to hardly 5% ;( .. and no one will take risk for just 5% profit .

Tried Facebook also. No Luck
Tried PPV : No Luck
Tried Media Buying : Not Profitable ;(

joelraitt · 02-13-2012, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aryangarg

Google Adwords killing small players since 2011 ;( .. I made more than $200k profit using adword in 2010 by investing just 30k USD. but after google changed their terms. Profit tanked to hardly 5% ;( .. and no one will take risk for just 5% profit .

Tried Facebook also. No Luck
Tried PPV : No Luck
Tried Media Buying : Not Profitable ;(

haha I know lots of people still making money with adwords...

I and many others still make money on fb, ppv, and media buys...

Kind of sounds like you got lucky, hit 1 big campaign, thought you knew it all and now you cant do it again...am I right?

joelraitt · 03-12-2012, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by opatrao24

hey man could you post some detils on how u did this

Serious man? There are a lot of details in this thread...

ebuyer123 · 03-12-2012, 10:52 PM

You must be promoting products with a very high profit margin, right?

Lyfe Lyte · 03-13-2012, 12:22 AM

Yes PPC can have you going from $5k to $400k a month....yes I know someone who sat in front of his computer and didn't stop until he mastered adwords...people give up too easily...he is now doing $400k a month by just using adwords...its all relative...$400k in a month might be a bad month for some people...it's all about what your making now....You may think $10k a month is such a huge amount..but once you start making that every month...it because average for you..then you make a new goal...ask me how I know

nolite · 03-18-2012, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by aryangarg

Google Adwords killing small players since 2011 ;( .. I made more than $200k profit using adword in 2010 by investing just 30k USD. but after google changed their terms. Profit tanked to hardly 5% ;( .. and no one will take risk for just 5% profit .

Tried Facebook also. No Luck
Tried PPV : No Luck
Tried Media Buying : Not Profitable ;(

aryangarg: Where did you try your mediabuying, and what niches? I was looking into trying that

joelraitt · 03-19-2012, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ebuyer123

You must be promoting products with a very high profit margin, right?

Yah, I do stuff with higher margins now though...those margins were more like 25-40% ROI a day. Higher the better though.

dakar · 03-20-2012, 05:48 PM

Hey Joel,

Congratulations on your huge success. I was also riding the same success as you up until last December (a few months ago). I was making about $25k a month on average for the past 2 years. All from 1 site. It wasn't CPA or CPL. It was a combination of PPC, SEO and was making money via Adsense and CPM. And I had a full time job, so the $25k was all money for my savings account.

So now I want to get into the CPA business. I agree with your theory on mentors and having good partners that can give you ideas and possibly even money (if needed). I know some people that are making over $100k a month with PPC and CPA currently. But these guys are hard workers, and are usually up at 3am working non stop till night time.

Feels like I'm back at step 1 because I need to learn new techniques again. What was once working for me has dried out (only making about $5k in profit now/Mo) . But the good thing is that I have quite alot of money that I can invest for testing purposes and then finally for marketing.

Thanks for the info that you've supplied in this thread.

joelraitt · 03-31-2012, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dakar

Hey Joel,

Congratulations on your huge success. I was also riding the same success as you up until last December (a few months ago). I was making about $25k a month on average for the past 2 years. All from 1 site. It wasn't CPA or CPL. It was a combination of PPC, SEO and was making money via Adsense and CPM. And I had a full time job, so the $25k was all money for my savings account.

So now I want to get into the CPA business. I agree with your theory on mentors and having good partners that can give you ideas and possibly even money (if needed). I know some people that are making over $100k a month with PPC and CPA currently. But these guys are hard workers, and are usually up at 3am working non stop till night time.

Feels like I'm back at step 1 because I need to learn new techniques again. What was once working for me has dried out (only making about $5k in profit now/Mo) . But the good thing is that I have quite alot of money that I can invest for testing purposes and then finally for marketing.

Thanks for the info that you've supplied in this thread.

That's great man, 25k is a lot of money to make a month plus a job. Good for you for keeping your job at the same time. Smart.

It happens to everyone in this industry, you hit something thats working and eventually it dies...then the doubt kicks in...did I fluke out? Can I do it again? Just keep working and think about what made your stuff work before, you'll get back there or even bigger in no time.

As you find new ways to make money you become more rounded and confident that no matter what happens you can make money - which is true.

Later man!

warrior212 · 03-31-2012, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex Lin

Impressive! It would be nice if you could share a bit in detail.

Yeah, I'm eager to know how you do it, please I really appreciate if you can share the methods you use.

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01-20-2012, 06:30 AM	#512
chrisjenva HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Hampton Roads Area, VA Posts: 104 Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Wow that's great. I plan on getting into ppc and cpa in the coming months. All the info in this thread has been extremely helpful. Thanks everyone for your input.
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01-20-2012, 11:52 AM	#513
kavitapore HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: India Posts: 111 Thanks: 74 Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts Social Networking	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Hello joelraitt and everybody, I am newbai and thanks for discussing this good topic, helped me a lot, Can any one tell me what is zilch, rebills. Also I got approved by GoOffers - anybody tell me is it good site. Also tell me meaning of - (No incentivized traffic is allowed) what is traking URL, is it same through which i am going to advertise and get paid. what is impression pixel? is it necessory to add? what is conversion URL / pixel? Is that code is require? Each page of detail offer includes following data which is I am not able to understand. data is........... Add third-party conversion tracking pixels and postback URLs below. The system will dynamically replace several optional variables. Add New Conversion Pixels / URL Type: java / html / image HTML or JavaScript Code for Client (Cookie) Tracking. Add Image Pixel: Plus there are lot of operational variables. Hope my question will answer sombody by tommrow and then I might start my 1st CPA campain start within two days!, let's see what happens. Thanks

01-20-2012, 12:21 PM	#514
zoulaille Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Very motivating post. Thanks!

01-23-2012, 01:25 PM	#516
joelraitt Master Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 329 Thanks: 1 Thanked 83 Times in 40 Posts Social Networking	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Just thought of this little question i ask my aff managers that makes a big difference... Everyone always asks... " whats the hot offer, or whats doing really well?" i guess in hope of copying them...or something? Bad idea...all the $$$$ is made in being the first. Ask your AM - What do you really think could work on (your traffic source here) that not enough people have tested yet? Now that gets their brain and yours going in the direction of huge success!
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01-23-2012, 09:07 PM	#517
fictionaldamo Active Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Agoura Hills Posts: 46 Thanks: 4 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts Social Networking	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Well done gives me hope!
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01-24-2012, 06:44 PM	#520
joelraitt Master Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 329 Thanks: 1 Thanked 83 Times in 40 Posts Social Networking	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Yah Jason is right...well technically advertising cost in that way is considered cost of goods sold in this scenario.
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01-25-2012, 01:19 AM	#521
jenniferwhittle Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 11 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Hello! It's so nice hearing all this earnings, it gave me more courage to invest more time in front of my computer. I hope all PPC can can be that generous. But anyway, great share back there! Congratulations!

01-25-2012, 03:33 AM	#522
outwest Lovin Life War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: USA and Asia Posts: 2,675 Thanks: 118 Thanked 180 Times in 161 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Great to see you are here still at it more than 2 yrs later, very inspiring, I am sure your techniques are even more sophisticated at this point the fact that you shared a lot of your techniques is also very appreciated by newbies on here like me

01-25-2012, 03:39 PM	#524
MIgartua Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: La Paz, Baja California Sur, Mexico Posts: 35 Thanks: 13 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Whare are some great PPC sites for cheap clicks? That actually deliver traffic. I'm trying to stay away from the big ones like AdWords and Facebook. Clicks are just too expensive. I tried POF with tight demographics but still spent more than I made.
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01-25-2012, 04:10 PM	#525
outwest Lovin Life War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: USA and Asia Posts: 2,675 Thanks: 118 Thanked 180 Times in 161 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Joel what about people who say, facebook used to be good but now the clicks have gotten too expensive. In the last two years have your click costs shot up?

01-26-2012, 02:50 PM	#528
webdave Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 61 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Great thread and congrats on your success... A couple of questions - When you started you said that you tried 2 different lp's . Did you notice a big difference in conversions between the 2? How important were the landing pages to your success? And were you running the campaigns continuously or just at specific times of the day?

01-26-2012, 04:21 PM	#529
tylerjaysen HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 204 Thanks: 1 Thanked 14 Times in 11 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? yeah I like this post because it brings out so many different opinions. I always laugh when I see these claims about making huge amounts of money in a month. Usually if it's done via PPC then they have spent a ton of dough to make that big money. So yeah as someone said in post above, then net revenue is all that matters. The profit or the net result is what you have to spend. Of course you also have to factor in the tax portion too. But yeah making $50k in a month can be done via PPC, but how much did it cost you in ad spend to make that? $25K spent, so a decent return eh? Doubling your money is very nice. But the problem exists when you want to repeat that same figure the next month. Spend another $25 k? If you do, then you just spent your profit from previous month. So you must go into this game understanding the ROI (return on investment), and then once you find the winners, you scale it up. To me, spending $3k and making $10k is a much better return and I can do that all month long with PPC.
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01-31-2012, 12:05 PM	#532
webdave Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 61 Thanks: 2 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? How did you create the LP's - Were you using some kind of software or did you have them made for you?

02-02-2012, 06:05 PM	#534
Maraun Took the red pill Join Date: Dec 2011 Posts: 254 Thanks: 8 Thanked 46 Times in 36 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Yes, me! Why do I always start reading your thread from page 1 for a few minutes before I realize that this thing is like 3 years old and that I've read it already? Everytime. Single. Time. Gah.
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02-03-2012, 04:25 AM	#536
sabreena Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Hello, That is impressive and informative post... thanks....

02-13-2012, 04:43 PM	#541
aryangarg Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 61 Thanks: 0 Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Google Adwords killing small players since 2011 ;( .. I made more than $200k profit using adword in 2010 by investing just 30k USD. but after google changed their terms. Profit tanked to hardly 5% ;( .. and no one will take risk for just 5% profit . Tried Facebook also. No Luck Tried PPV : No Luck Tried Media Buying : Not Profitable ;(
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03-12-2012, 10:52 PM	#544
ebuyer123 Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,027 Thanks: 11 Thanked 43 Times in 37 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? You must be promoting products with a very high profit margin, right?
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03-13-2012, 12:22 AM	#545
Lyfe Lyte Giving Light to Your Life War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Milky Way Posts: 66 Thanks: 88 Thanked 26 Times in 17 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Yes PPC can have you going from $5k to $400k a month....yes I know someone who sat in front of his computer and didn't stop until he mastered adwords...people give up too easily...he is now doing $400k a month by just using adwords...its all relative...$400k in a month might be a bad month for some people...it's all about what your making now....You may think $10k a month is such a huge amount..but once you start making that every month...it because average for you..then you make a new goal...ask me how I know

03-20-2012, 05:48 PM	#548
dakar Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 60 Thanks: 10 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Hey Joel, Congratulations on your huge success. I was also riding the same success as you up until last December (a few months ago). I was making about $25k a month on average for the past 2 years. All from 1 site. It wasn't CPA or CPL. It was a combination of PPC, SEO and was making money via Adsense and CPM. And I had a full time job, so the $25k was all money for my savings account. So now I want to get into the CPA business. I agree with your theory on mentors and having good partners that can give you ideas and possibly even money (if needed). I know some people that are making over $100k a month with PPC and CPA currently. But these guys are hard workers, and are usually up at 3am working non stop till night time. Feels like I'm back at step 1 because I need to learn new techniques again. What was once working for me has dried out (only making about $5k in profit now/Mo) . But the good thing is that I have quite alot of money that I can invest for testing purposes and then finally for marketing. Thanks for the info that you've supplied in this thread.