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Thanks for clearing that up. If you arent split testing different networks I would suggest doing it because I have seen many people get burned by network refusing to pay. Your traffic sounds completely legit, but it cant hurt to diversify a bit and spread risk. best of luck | |
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
Congrats on your success! What tools are you using to manage your operation? eg. traffic stats, managing your ads and bids, monitoring conversions, split testing etc. Do you use a squeeze page?
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
Do you use Yahoo Search ?
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Its great that you are interested in what the winners are doing, but you must remember that there is no one way to being successful at making money online. You can literally make a ton of money on any search engine, any cpa network, any niche etc I would suggest you pick a traffic source and just go on to master it. People with successfull campaigns arent going to tell you what offers, keywords, etc they are doing, and in truth there is no magic bullet. So just get down to business, take action, and start making money! Best of luck | |
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
So are you using free trail type offers?
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I love your answers.  You really know how the things work in IM.
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10-23-2009, 05:58 PM
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
Wow that is really good. I am a little skeptical about dumping that kind of money before I got paid a few times. After all the 'scrubbing' posts I have read about and other crappy networks I would be afraid... hehe If you make it work my hat is off to you. I think I will go for the slow and steady.
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He should have NO PROBLEM at all getting paid.
Guys, this is this business... And to be totally honest, he's making money... But nothing at all compared to a huge amount of other guys. He's on the right track. |
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Thanks Jack. I remember when I was completely new, I was soo incredibly lost and thanks to a few warriors and my mentor I was able to keep course and finally gained traction and it has been all up hill from there. The good thing is that there is soo much room and abundance in this industry that helping people out wont have the slightest effect on my business (unless I tell you my campaigns and keywords of course). Best of luck... | |
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Ahhhh...but going from $500 per day to $5000 a day is much easier than going from $0 per day to $100 per day. Hes right around the corner from the big numbers. Literally one tweak in his campaign will do it! Im hoping hes got multiple campaigns running though! | |
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When you are doing traffic like that you dont really have to worry about scrubbing as much as staight up denial of earnings. Most scrubbing is from simple sumbits and happens because you have crap traffic or fake traffic such as incentivizing non-incentive offers. Denial of commissions happens if you are doing BlueFart type stuff or pure fraud. If he is doing straight up legit traffic, he will not have a problem getting commissions. Remember, networks want to reward super affiliates because the networks are taking a piece of every conversion...thats how they make there money. There are tons of networks out there so networks keep affilaites happy so they dont go elsewhere. They would be shooting themsleves in the leg if they deny commissions so somebody bringing in legit traffic that is converting. | |
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I monitor my bids through th ads manager directly from my traffic source! By squeeze page, you mean e-mail grabber? No. I use a Landing Page ( single page telling them why they should do what i want them to and telling them to do it now). Sometimes I even Direct link to the offer. Try both. | |
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Totally true man, im just scratching the surface....one of my best buddies makes over 100K a month...its sick. talk about motivation. were flying to AdTech in New York at the start of November...any of you guys going? | |
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
great! I am really interested. I tried PPC before but its really hard to earn from it since I don't have downlines. can you just share us what are the sites you are talking about.. where we can earn also that amount per month? Or can you email me all the details about it?
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
Congrats joelraitt-
I promote a super competitive niche and ppc costs are sky-high- I have stayed away from ppc. Maybe it's time to find another niche and diversify with a ppc campaign. |
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Great work..Best of luck..
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
i dont think people should be asking for niches etc, but myself would be curious as to the advertising method, i would never ask for niche though hahahaha
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whether you are doing MEDIA BUYING, ppc, free methods, you can make a ton of money using any type of traffic. It would do yourself more good to just settle down, pick a traffic source and go with it, than to try and weasel as much info out of Joel as you can.
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Pat per click all the way my friend. I used to do SEO, it takes way to much time, way to slow. Can it be done? Of course, and if thats how you make your living...then thats awesome! If you are just starting out...even with almost no money...learn PPC...you can scale it HUGE FAST and make lots of coin. Then use that money to test new campaings, new LP's and all that fun stuff! Trust me I have been through the ropes, haha it pays off. keep going. | |
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Congratulaion! Maybe some day I will be so lucky.
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
Would love to try promoting a product on FaceBook.. have you ever tried anything in the diet areas?
Seems like most facebook stuff is ring tones, or txt quizzes. Jay |
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
alright, since I'm down about $500 this week on media buys I need to figure out what I'm doing wrong...maybe you can help.
I'm guessing you're either doing Media Buys or PPV. Are you direct linking to the offer or using your own landing page? I'm about to start a direct linking campaign doing media buys, but I need an offer that will convert. I'm looking either at Netflix or Debt Help. Would you recommend just blasting my offer on all sites, or target my campaign to people who I think will be interested in these offers. I find that when I laser target my campaigns I don't get too much traffic...so I'm thinking to go with the shotgun approach. Any info you can give me either in a pm or this thread would be really helpful. I gotta start making a profit though =/. |
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Netflix has huge potential. If you find the right traffic source, netflix converts like crazy. But yes I would recommend targeting sites. If you have a huge budget to lose, then do a huge shotgun. This can be costly testing though, so if you are on a budget, go the targeting route. The key is trying to find demographics that convert. Once you do this and find some sites that convert well...then go horizontal and find similar sites in terms of content and/or demographic. good luck man | |
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Ummm I have not done dieting, or txt quizzes...facebook doesnt like that, no rebills aloud....although...it can be done. I have done it, but not worth getting your account banned!
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Dont worry about the 500, as long as you are learning, its an investment. I have been there.
Are you using your own creatives for ads? Or the ones they give you? I dont have a huge amount of experiance with media buys...but i know a bit. Whats your CTR? id say start out targeted...and only put $ where you think you have the best chance of at leas breaking even...then tweak to make it profitable. Its easy to get lots of data when you are breaking even, cuz it cost nothing, so you can test and make it work. If you can make it work then take it as wide as possible. And start elminating sites from there. Im not sure about those 2 offers your thinking of, people are making money in both, but remeber some of these guys buy millions and millions of impressions a day and get cheaper traffic then you and they are prob getting a higher payout then you. so you cant compete going wide right away. have you asked for a pay increase to test the offer? they will give it to you. honestly, look at what other people are doing and steal from them, and then make it better. that is the only real chance on offers like that. seriously every single thing matters, and you can only test 1 variable at a time. so take your time, get it to break even, and then test to profit from there. overall, your better off making a little bit slowly now ( so you have money to test other stuff) then risk 500 or so not knowing if you are going to make $. you are not in th business of RISKING $ or gambeling large somes. Limit your risk and increase your chances of winning. i hope this helps. any other questions. Quote:
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
Hey Joelraitt,
I'm actually doing text ads right now. My Overall CTR isn't great at all, it's 0.015%. But I'm getting over 1 million impressions per day right now, which usually gets me about 100-200 clicks. Out of those clicks, before this Friday, I had a 1 out of about 50 conversion rate. About a 13% CTR from my landing page to the Offer Landing Page. From the offer landing page I had about a 15-25% conversion rate. So it was starting to do pretty well... and I just figured I could start making profits of about 10-20 cents per click if I left everything the way it was... Then Bam. Thursday night rolls around and my conversions start to drop dramatically. Friday comes and I can only get 1 conversion out of 190 clicks. And today, I don't even have one conversion to show for 150 clicks. Ridiculous. I just have no idea what's going on. I already got a payout bump from my AM for both offers, so I'm getting paid the max I can right now. But you're right, these other guys have money to throw at this... I just want to know why an offer would convert one day and then all of a sudden drop off. Just the nature of the business I guess... but I still see other people promoting the exact same thing. Thanks again for all the info and advice. |
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
Wow! So much useful info here!
Thanks to everyone who have contributed here =) Anyways, I think you are running a dating offer using facebook ads... Am I right? At least I've heard people are making big money doing it. Also, in competitive niches (as in $3+ per click in adwords), they have high payouts, and cost a lot per click if you're playing with the big guys like google. Hence, if you go for facebook and other kinds of sources NOT using keywords, but instead trying to hit the right demographics, you can get your clicks WAY cheaper. Although it's a bit less targeted, it still has loads more potential. Now, I haven't tried out a whole lot yet, but I realize I should. PPC and media buys are extremely fast, and if done right, it can be quick profits too. (Or quick losses!) Btw, do you use your own landing page with an opt-in form or just a normal non-opt-in landing page? Thanks, Preben P.S. Which CPA network do you use? You said you get paid every friday, which would be awesome! |
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
Hi Preben,
I can't speak for the OP but I know certain networks payout weekly if you generate about 1k revenue per day. I can give you a referral to the network I'm talking about if you want... just send me a pm. |
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Many times you dont even need to be doing that much traffic. Just speak with your affiliate manager. If you have been with the network for a while and have good legit traffic, networks are normally pretty flexible with payouts. What they are mostly worrying about it BlueFart or fraudsters doing a bunch of traffic and getting paid commissions and then the advertiser on the back end getting mad the leads arent converting. If youre legit, they want to work with you as much as possible. | |
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
Awesome, I'm going to fire off some questions for you while question period is still on!
1. Ok if it's Facebook - Do you have any secret tips to getting ads approved? Back when I was using them, it was really annoying trying to get my ads approved. It seemed completely random based on whatever they felt like at the moment. I even made my ads look like the ads that were up. Sometimes they'd disapprove 1 ad, and then a few hours later, approve the SAME ad (this was for dating). I don't know if the platform has changed much. 2. Know any way to get $100 ad credit? There was some promotion going on, but the codes don't work anymore. 3. What is your avg CPC? 4. Obviously I'm not going to ask you for your exact niche but HOW did you settle on a niche? Did you ask your AM what was doing well, and just went from there & rotated offers? 5. Are you targeting based on interests from people's profiles, and/or targeting a general demographic like males in US, 25-49? ps. you are doin a great thing here helping people out! you rock and deserve to be super duper rich
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10-25-2009, 01:34 AM
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Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?
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10-25-2009, 03:29 AM
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10-25-2009, 11:49 AM
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1) What area are you promoting? Like are you getting people to bring out their credit cards? What kind on information are you getting form them to complete the CPA? 2) Your LP, your AD, along with the actually LP of the offer determines you overal convertions rate. It all matters for convertions. 3) Are you split testing your Landing Pages, you need your CTR at least above 40%, 60% is better. I am on my 7th split test for 2 on my capaigns. Each time I built a better LP. Thats more $ for me. And could be for you. 4) I always heard people say test at last 100 clicks...but on large demographics, or large keywords...100 clicks is nothing. If the campain in close to break een I like to run at least 500, maybe 1000 clicks to it over 2-3 days. I have had offers mak3 money every day but Sat and Sun. So its weird. Watch for patterns. 5) I had the exact same problem man, convertions, then non, id make money, then lose money. It cuold just be your ttype of offer. I asked my AM and he said it was known to be streaky. But if you work on your LP and your AD's to make it good enough then 1 day you only make 100, the next you make 500...rather then -100 or +50...? You know? 6) Good work getting the first pay bump. 7) Just remember, every extra CTR %, either on your ad or LP it MORE MONEY. More average earning per click ( Ave epc) which means you can bid more, wihc mean you can get more traffic, which means you can make .1 cent on 10000 clicks tahter then .3 on 100, or w/e. In the end you want to go WIDE. More poeple you serve the more $ you make. Good luck man, your on the right path. I hope I answered it all. Joel | |
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10-25-2009, 11:52 AM
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i have to think about if i want to give away my network on here...i only get paid every friday cuz i was doing decent volume. but it was not that hard to get it. | |
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10-25-2009, 12:10 PM
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All of this is true. And they want to hear it. | |
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