I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions?

joelraitt · 11-04-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by dozierdd

PPC has always scared me. But your convincing me to give it a try. Heck, I like money too.

Just take the time to learn man. And only start with small tests.

sun2son · 11-05-2009, 09:12 AM

Joel,

Just wanted to join the crowd in giving credit for sharing your insights and starting a thread where others have been able to add to the conversation.

It's sure to help plently of people..

s2s

Johnny12345 · 11-05-2009, 11:35 AM

Since the new, stricter FTC rules regarding affiliate marketing have been announced, do you do anything specific to comply?

For example, do you:

1) Use a disclaimer on your landing pages?
2) Avoid using fake blogs?
3) Avoid "sketchy" offers?
4) Other?

Johnny

joelraitt · 11-06-2009, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny12345

Since the new, stricter FTC rules regarding affiliate marketing have been announced, do you do anything specific to comply?

For example, do you:

1) Use a disclaimer on your landing pages?
2) Avoid using fake blogs?
3) Avoid "sketchy" offers?
4) Other?

Johnny

I just dont run any of that stuff. So no need to worry for me.

bg-011 · 11-07-2009, 12:48 AM

Great stuff, never tried PPC but will be on a list "to do"
thank you,

JRecard · 11-08-2009, 07:22 AM

Thanks for all the amazing info Joel.
Awesome to see.

Heres to your sucess

Frank Tocco · 11-08-2009, 07:46 AM

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venue means zilch yet that's all that is ever broadcast.

Still means zilch though it looks good on paper.

SacredWealth · 11-08-2009, 09:59 AM

I don't know what all you experienced guys mean by "Revenue means Zero."

When you invest X amount of money and get Y return. Then X-Y should be your ROI.

Is that not the case?

ChrisBa · 11-08-2009, 10:30 AM

Congrats on your success!

zhunzi · 11-08-2009, 11:14 AM

This is pretty sweet. Thanks for sharing. Who are some ppc's you'd recommend if not google? Yahoo/bing?

I've had some success with adwords/LP and a colon cleanse CPA offer paying $32/lead. In 45 days I made 256 in revenue and spent about $60 in profit. Dealing with google was painful, and as much as I tweaked my campaigns I couldn't get the volume any higher, even with huge volume keyworks. Freaking google!!

I'm really curious where you got the traffic. If I could perfect that, I think I could break thru with this stuff.

zhunzi · 11-08-2009, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Preben Frenning

P.S. Which CPA network do you use? You said you get paid every friday, which would be awesome!

My AM at Copeac told me when I joined that they could wire daily if I did greater than $1K a day in revenue. I imagine if you have an AM, just talk to them about more frequent payouts. If your making them serious bling, they will change the rules of the game for you. I know they can typically change the payout as wells as the terms and conditions if the deal is right and traffic is legit.

joelraitt · 11-08-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SacredWealth

I don't know what all you experienced guys mean by "Revenue means Zero."

When you invest X amount of money and get Y return. Then X-Y should be your ROI.

Is that not the case?

Ummm...well what they are saying is that if you say you have 100 in revenues, but you spent 200 to get it, then you lost 100 so the 100 in revenues means nothing...

i think people assumed thats what i was doing...which is rediculus...maybe i should have made the thread " How I went from -150 net loss to over $17,000 profit in 30 days with 90 000 in revenues...."

haha but w/e

zhunzi · 11-08-2009, 06:40 PM

Finally finished reading this whole thread. Thanks so much for all the info in here. I haven't even looked at facebook and/or $4 CPL offers. I've never been inclined to buy anything on facebook myself (with the exception of some stuff from the games from zynga). I've never even been inclined to click those ads on the side. I guess I'm not your target market eh?

I've experimented a lot with google, but after reading through this thread I can see I was fighting a never ending battle with my rebill products. I actually got banned from one campaign I never even turned on (was a google biz kit)!! Had to do the whole IP/CC identity switch to get a new account. Sigh, freaking google!

So my experiments have been in the zip/email submit space ($1-2 range) and the rebill space ($30+ range). I've also experimented with the clickbank CPS models (all $10+). I guess there is a large world there in the middle that I've not even explored.

joelraitt · 11-08-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zhunzi

Finally finished reading this whole thread. Thanks so much for all the info in here. I haven't even looked at facebook and/or $4 CPL offers. I've never been inclined to buy anything on facebook myself (with the exception of some stuff from the games from zynga). I've never even been inclined to click those ads on the side. I guess I'm not your target market eh?

I've experimented a lot with google, but after reading through this thread I can see I was fighting a never ending battle with my rebill products. I actually got banned from one campaign I never even turned on (was a google biz kit)!! Had to do the whole IP/CC identity switch to get a new account. Sigh, freaking google!

So my experiments have been in the zip/email submit space ($1-2 range) and the rebill space ($30+ range). I've also experimented with the clickbank CPS models (all $10+). I guess there is a large world there in the middle that I've not even explored.

Yah its true...i mean you just have to figure out what works best for you right. Im changing my game all the time, testing and moving around. The Internet doesnt just spit out money to anyone who wants it.

lazavas · 11-09-2009, 04:59 AM

sorry if this is a silly question and if it has already been answered but can u direct link to the offer in facebook? im not so good at building websites

thanks

Oosha · 11-09-2009, 05:17 AM

Congrats!

I've had success with PPC, but I could never run a campaign for long even when it was profitable due to lack of funds. A minimum of $3000 - $4000 is needed to be able to cash in on a good campaign. You've motivated me enough to keep some money aside for PPC.

Let us know when you make a "profit" of $41,000.

DannyLucas · 11-09-2009, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PPC-Coach

Revenue means zilch yet that's all that is ever broadcast.

I'm trying to understand your post. Are you saying that his claim is not valid? Or are you saying that most people boast about revenue income (gross) and not (net)?

Didn't he post his net income from his post?

Kenster · 11-09-2009, 09:37 AM

It was probably a general comment about people always writing about revenue figures instead of net of profit figures. Everybody knows revenue means nothing as PPC Coach suggested.

Kenster · 11-09-2009, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SacredWealth

I don't know what all you experienced guys mean by "Revenue means Zero."

When you invest X amount of money and get Y return. Then X-Y should be your ROI.

Is that not the case?

ROI is a percentage so your formula above is not for return or ROI but rather for net profit. Net profit is the real important metric of success, not revenue alone or cost alone.

And yes that is the case, but revenue (x) means nothing without either the other variable of cost (y) or without your return (x-y)/x

HDRider · 11-09-2009, 09:42 AM

I could have sworn you mentioned this but I can't find it... Just looked at all your posts again.

Are you using cpm or ppc for your ads?

Thanks

joelraitt · 11-09-2009, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by lazavas

sorry if this is a silly question and if it has already been answered but can u direct link to the offer in facebook? im not so good at building websites

thanks

Yah you an direct link with facebook. They dont care.

joelraitt · 11-09-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HDRider

I could have sworn you mentioned this but I can't find it... Just looked at all your posts again.

Are you using cpm or ppc for your ads?

Thanks

I have only used CPC no cpm at this time, but perhaps soon, its in the works.

zhunzi · 11-09-2009, 10:14 PM

So, not knowing what might convert well on facebook, but trying to think of the demographics, this is what I'd probably want to test. You don't have to tell me what you're promoting, but if you've tested any of these and failed, let me know so I don't have the same curse!

educational products (grants, scholarships), dating (lots of singles on facebook), loan mods (probably a lot of folks in bad shape now in the 30+ age range)

email submits might work, but really depends on what the PPC costs are like.

joelraitt · 11-10-2009, 01:27 AM

Done a bit of everyhting. Spend a couple hundred and figure it out! Remember its usually the affilaite that doesnt make it work...not the offer.

I could never get email or zips to work in FB though.

Good luck

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Originally Posted by zhunzi

So, not knowing what might convert well on facebook, but trying to think of the demographics, this is what I'd probably want to test. You don't have to tell me what you're promoting, but if you've tested any of these and failed, let me know so I don't have the same curse!

educational products (grants, scholarships), dating (lots of singles on facebook), loan mods (probably a lot of folks in bad shape now in the 30+ age range)

email submits might work, but really depends on what the PPC costs are like.

carnews · 11-10-2009, 01:33 AM

I am sure your success story is encouraging for many, as I am sure many would like... more details maybe? :-)

joelraitt · 11-10-2009, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by carnews

I am sure your success story is encouraging for many, as I am sure many would like... more details maybe? :-)

Really? Did you even read the thread? And to be honest Iv'e already given away to much. Every tip I give or idea adds more people for me to compete against.

Not to worried about it b/c 98% of you will always be lookers and not do'ers.

What do you want? My exact traffic source with my exact ad with my exact offer?

lazavas · 11-10-2009, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by joelraitt

Really? Did you even read the thread? And to be honest Iv'e already given away to much. Every tip I give or idea adds more people for me to compete against.

Not to worried about it b/c 98% of you will always be lookers and not do'ers.

What do you want? My exact traffic source with my exact ad with my exact offer?

i think u should send ur next cheque to them! hahahahahahaha

zhunzi · 11-10-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by joelraitt

Really? Did you even read the thread? And to be honest Iv'e already given away to much. Every tip I give or idea adds more people for me to compete against.

Not to worried about it b/c 98% of you will always be lookers and not do'ers.

What do you want? My exact traffic source with my exact ad with my exact offer?

Have all of us who want it sign up under you, you give us the specs to fight over, and then you take your 5% cut off all our commissions while you're working on your next big thing. Rinse, repeat.

If not, it's just an idea, I'll figure it out eventually.

joelraitt · 11-11-2009, 12:20 PM

lol well its not 5% its 2% usually. and i think id rather keep it allto myself. lol maybe when it dies out ill show you guys...then you can get the idea of a successful campain.

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Originally Posted by zhunzi

Have all of us who want it sign up under you, you give us the specs to fight over, and then you take your 5% cut off all our commissions while you're working on your next big thing. Rinse, repeat.

If not, it's just an idea, I'll figure it out eventually.

rawaccess · 11-11-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by joelraitt

i also spent a LOT of time in front of the computer haha its not like money just runs free off the internet into your pocket....you have to work

damn... lol

joelraitt · 11-11-2009, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rawaccess

damn... lol

there are nots of places that teach you just to post links on google for 2-300 a day...lol kidding dont do it

joelraitt · 11-11-2009, 06:59 PM

OK guys, so I have had my inbox full of PM's wanting to be mentored, asking for my network, people willing to pay for help...im already mentoring a buddy right now, but I figure I could take on 2 more people and still have time to work on my own.

this is what i was thinking.

im thinking ( if it happens or not) the 10 day course would include:

1) a step by step guide on how to set up the system incuding -
a) my network
b) all the crazy little tricks about my traffic source that makes testing so much cheaper and easier
c) how to track and test everything ( must or you will fail)
d) other free programs and software i use and where to get it
e) other stuff
2) unlimited emails asking questions directly to me with daily responses
3) have my AIM or skype to chat and ask stuff
4) 1 phone call per day at a max of 30 minutes long

To be honest it doesnt matter to me if i do this or not, it would be nice to help a few people out...i figured out the comitment/time/effort to do all this for 2 people...

with my time being so valuable...but i also understand some of you are just starting out ( not much coin), i figured a fair figure would be $750 for full access to me and system and brain for the 10 days. 25% up front, then 50% at day 5, then 25% on completion. if you dont think it was worth it, ill give you the money back.

i will be selecting the 2 people so please pm some of your history and why i should pick you.

note: this is a rare chance....not sure if iw ill do it again...cant let everyone have these secrets, it wont be pretty ( as in the post above is typed fast and not edited) but it will work. if your serious about your business PM me why i should pick you.

perhaps a phone call before commitment would be a good idea as well. just to see if you even like me and i like you. if its not fun i wont do it.

good luck to all!

isendtraffic · 11-11-2009, 09:11 PM

12k in 21 days is 4k a week! Thats a good weeks pay no matter how much you spent on advertising.

-Joe

TommyBoy · 11-11-2009, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by joelraitt

OK guys, so I have had my inbox full of PM's wanting to be mentored, asking for my network, people willing to pay for help...im already mentoring a buddy right now, but I figure I could take on 2 more people and still have time to work on my own.

this is what i was thinking.

im thinking ( if it happens or not) the 10 day course would include:

1) a step by step guide on how to set up the system incuding -
a) my network
b) all the crazy little tricks about my traffic source that makes testing so much cheaper and easier
c) how to track and test everything ( must or you will fail)
d) other free programs and software i use and where to get it
e) other stuff
2) unlimited emails asking questions directly to me with daily responses
3) have my AIM or skype to chat and ask stuff
4) 1 phone call per day at a max of 30 minutes long

To be honest it doesnt matter to me if i do this or not, it would be nice to help a few people out...i figured out the comitment/time/effort to do all this for 2 people...

with my time being so valuable...but i also understand some of you are just starting out ( not much coin), i figured a fair figure would be $750 for full access to me and system and brain for the 10 days. 25% up front, then 50% at day 5, then 25% on completion. if you dont think it was worth it, ill give you the money back.

i will be selecting the 2 people so please pm some of your history and why i should pick you.

note: this is a rare chance....not sure if iw ill do it again...cant let everyone have these secrets, it wont be pretty ( as in the post above is typed fast and not edited) but it will work. if your serious about your business PM me why i should pick you.

perhaps a phone call before commitment would be a good idea as well. just to see if you even like me and i like you. if its not fun i wont do it.

good luck to all!

I could have sworn you said that the guys really making the money do not sell their methods. Why the change of heart?

oscarkool · 11-12-2009, 12:17 AM

I'm sorry but spending 41k to make a 12k profit is not that good and I don't know why people are getting all crazy over this. I'm sorry to crash the party, but that's just a fact. If you're spending a crap load of money to make a 20% ROI, that's not good. In fact, anything less than a 100% ROI needs to be tweaked until it gets to 100%.

If you want to do well on facebook, stick to dating ads or e-mail submits. I was doing 300% ROI direct-linking e-mail submits. Then I started doing rebills and mobile and got banned

joelraitt · 11-12-2009, 12:40 AM

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Originally Posted by TommyBoy

I could have sworn you said that the guys really making the money do not sell their methods. Why the change of heart?

Umm nope I said my mentor doesnt, and he wouldnt share his **** either way...and im not selling some product to hundreds of noobs for $29, im selling my brain and ideas...its different...

ha and if you think im doing this for the money, think again my friend. but when you figure out your time is worth so much, you cant just waste it. youll learn that one day!

joelraitt · 11-12-2009, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by oscarkool

I'm sorry but spending 41k to make a 12k profit is not that good and I don't know why people are getting all crazy over this. I'm sorry to crash the party, but that's just a fact. If you're spending a crap load of money to make a 20% ROI, that's not good. In fact, anything less than a 100% ROI needs to be tweaked until it gets to 100%.

If you want to do well on facebook, stick to dating ads or e-mail submits. I was doing 300% ROI direct-linking e-mail submits. Then I started doing rebills and mobile and got banned

i agree its not spectacular, but its better then most, i know people making 6 figures a month, but are you going to be able to call them? email them? haha good luck.

and those numbers were just half the month....so doube it

No offence dude but id rather get 20% return on 80 000 spent...or 16,000 profit then 300% return on even 3000 spent or $9,000 profit.

just the way i found to work, there are hundreds of ways...ill gladly keep this one to myself...just trying to help out

Johnny the Doe · 11-12-2009, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by oscarkool

I'm sorry but spending 41k to make a 12k profit is not that good and I don't know why people are getting all crazy over this. I'm sorry to crash the party, but that's just a fact. If you're spending a crap load of money to make a 20% ROI, that's not good. In fact, anything less than a 100% ROI needs to be tweaked until it gets to 100%.

If you want to do well on facebook, stick to dating ads or e-mail submits. I was doing 300% ROI direct-linking e-mail submits. Then I started doing rebills and mobile and got banned

Hi oscarkool,

what you said about the 300% ROI in email submits is really interesting, since I have a nice 100-150% ROI doing email submits but this traffic isn't too stable and I have a lot of maintenance to do to keep it going that way.

If you have some tips on doing DL with email submits on Facebook I'll be more than glad if you share some of them.

Thanks!

Johnny the Doe · 11-12-2009, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by joelraitt

i agree its not spectacular, but its better then most, i know people making 6 figures a month, but are you going to be able to call them? email them? haha good luck.

and those numbers were just half the month....so doube it

No offence dude but id rather get 20% return on 80 000 spent...or 16,000 profit then 300% return on even 3000 spent or $9,000 profit.

just the way i found to work, there are hundreds of ways...ill gladly keep this one to myself...just trying to help out

Hi Joel,

well done for all your achievements so far - if I get it right we're competing for the same place in the Costa Rica trip and I must say your results are pretty impressive.

I think that maintaining a 20% ROI with this kind of spend is pretty risky and you should seek to improve it as quickly as possible since from my experience traffic in Facebook is very unstable and your CTR can drop easily while the CPC rises.
My recommendation to you is to test tons of images - I've seen ads with the same targeting when one had a 0.1% CTR and the other one had a 0.8% CTR.
An ad with a CTR like that has easily reached a CPC of $0.04-0.05 => higher ROI. However, I'm pretty sure you're aware of that.

Anyway, good luck with the contest and who knows - maybe we'll see each other at Costa Rica :-)

DailyConversions · 11-12-2009, 11:25 AM

cool, nice story

joelraitt · 11-12-2009, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny the Doe

Hi Joel,

well done for all your achievements so far - if I get it right we're competing for the same place in the Costa Rica trip and I must say your results are pretty impressive.

I think that maintaining a 20% ROI with this kind of spend is pretty risky and you should seek to improve it as quickly as possible since from my experience traffic in Facebook is very unstable and your CTR can drop easily while the CPC rises.
My recommendation to you is to test tons of images - I've seen ads with the same targeting when one had a 0.1% CTR and the other one had a 0.8% CTR.
An ad with a CTR like that has easily reached a CPC of $0.04-0.05 => higher ROI. However, I'm pretty sure you're aware of that.

Anyway, good luck with the contest and who knows - maybe we'll see each other at Costa Rica :-)

haha nice man, and yah I totally agree FB is up and down. images pretty much control the ctr, i agree. but they also mess with convertions a lot too. its a ballance game i guess...

thad be sick if you went to costa rica, im hoping i make it! are you on overal revenues or growth category?

later

zhunzi · 11-13-2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnny the Doe

well done for all your achievements so far - if I get it right we're competing for the same place in the Costa Rica trip and I must say your results are pretty impressive.

...content removed...

Anyway, good luck with the contest and who knows - maybe we'll see each other at Costa Rica :-)

Did I miss a contest somewhere?

zhunzi · 11-13-2009, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by joelraitt

lol well its not 5% its 2% usually. and i think id rather keep it allto myself. lol maybe when it dies out ill show you guys...then you can get the idea of a successful campain.

That'd be cool too, even an idea that worked once is a good learning space for folks. I get lots of ideas from tricks that used to work but don't now. Just gets me in the right mindset.

Also, keep in mind the 2% is based off revenue. So your 80000 revenue would equate to 1600 in profit, and you had to do nothing. You just need 10 folks like that under you to completely replace your profit while you sit back and live the good life. In any case, I'd definitely have any of your mentees sign up under you to skim that 2%.

Johnny the Doe · 11-14-2009, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by joelraitt

haha nice man, and yah I totally agree FB is up and down. images pretty much control the ctr, i agree. but they also mess with convertions a lot too. its a ballance game i guess...

thad be sick if you went to costa rica, im hoping i make it! are you on overal revenues or growth category?

later

I'm competing in the growth category and correct me if I'm wrong - so are you.

And about Facebook - it's all about the arbitrage - if your CPC is lower than the EPC - great. If not - pause the ad and test other copies.

ukbuddy2 · 11-14-2009, 01:03 PM

Hey
THis is an interesting thread with loads of conflciting advice

Hey Joe not a newb but need some help up to the next level
you would not be wasting time with 'how to apply' what is a campaign' questions
ANd one email question a day is plenty!! or 10 min skypoe normaly works

let me know if you have any more spaces left cheers
danny

jamx03 · 11-14-2009, 01:37 PM

Very nice and motivating thread. I did some ppc initially without success. Since then I stayed away from it. I think I have to look at it again.

thanks for motivation.

Jamx

joelraitt · 11-14-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Johnny the Doe

I'm competing in the growth category and correct me if I'm wrong - so are you.

And about Facebook - it's all about the arbitrage - if your CPC is lower than the EPC - great. If not - pause the ad and test other copies.

Yah man growth for me as well. Have we met before? Were you in NY? Whats your AIM?

Later

mandela10 · 11-14-2009, 07:57 PM

I am also curious on how he did that.

anwar001 · 11-15-2009, 11:01 AM

First of all congrats on an your amazing success. This post surely has lifted my moods a great deal as it had made me realize the immense potential in IM. It has also renewed my interest in trying out ppc again. I had left it off after trying it for a couple of months and not noticing and good results. And that was long back when I was quite inexperienced in internet marketing.

Maybe now that I have a lot more experience in IM, I should try it out again to speed things further up.

Great going man, you rock. And thanks so much for posting about your success and providing inspiration to us.

ukbuddy2 · 11-15-2009, 02:44 PM

Hey Joe
My inbox was full
try and pm me again re my email
Danny

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zhunzi Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 48 Thanks: 17 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? This is pretty sweet. Thanks for sharing. Who are some ppc's you'd recommend if not google? Yahoo/bing? I've had some success with adwords/LP and a colon cleanse CPA offer paying $32/lead. In 45 days I made 256 in revenue and spent about $60 in profit. Dealing with google was painful, and as much as I tweaked my campaigns I couldn't get the volume any higher, even with huge volume keyworks. Freaking google!! I'm really curious where you got the traffic. If I could perfect that, I think I could break thru with this stuff.

11-08-2009, 06:40 PM	#163
zhunzi Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 48 Thanks: 17 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Finally finished reading this whole thread. Thanks so much for all the info in here. I haven't even looked at facebook and/or $4 CPL offers. I've never been inclined to buy anything on facebook myself (with the exception of some stuff from the games from zynga). I've never even been inclined to click those ads on the side. I guess I'm not your target market eh? I've experimented a lot with google, but after reading through this thread I can see I was fighting a never ending battle with my rebill products. I actually got banned from one campaign I never even turned on (was a google biz kit)!! Had to do the whole IP/CC identity switch to get a new account. Sigh, freaking google! So my experiments have been in the zip/email submit space ($1-2 range) and the rebill space ($30+ range). I've also experimented with the clickbank CPS models (all $10+). I guess there is a large world there in the middle that I've not even explored.

11-09-2009, 04:59 AM	#165
lazavas Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: , , Australia. Posts: 600 Thanks: 59 Thanked 26 Times in 20 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? sorry if this is a silly question and if it has already been answered but can u direct link to the offer in facebook? im not so good at building websites thanks

11-09-2009, 05:17 AM	#166
Oosha HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Vizag Posts: 443 Thanks: 112 Thanked 24 Times in 20 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Congrats! I've had success with PPC, but I could never run a campaign for long even when it was profitable due to lack of funds. A minimum of $3000 - $4000 is needed to be able to cash in on a good campaign. You've motivated me enough to keep some money aside for PPC. Let us know when you make a "profit" of $41,000.
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11-09-2009, 09:37 AM	#168
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,085 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 578 Thanked 1,885 Times in 841 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? It was probably a general comment about people always writing about revenue figures instead of net of profit figures. Everybody knows revenue means nothing as PPC Coach suggested.

11-09-2009, 09:42 AM	#170
HDRider Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: SW Florida Posts: 74 Thanks: 11 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? I could have sworn you mentioned this but I can't find it... Just looked at all your posts again. Are you using cpm or ppc for your ads? Thanks

11-09-2009, 10:14 PM	#173
zhunzi Active Warrior Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 48 Thanks: 17 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? So, not knowing what might convert well on facebook, but trying to think of the demographics, this is what I'd probably want to test. You don't have to tell me what you're promoting, but if you've tested any of these and failed, let me know so I don't have the same curse! educational products (grants, scholarships), dating (lots of singles on facebook), loan mods (probably a lot of folks in bad shape now in the 30+ age range) email submits might work, but really depends on what the PPC costs are like.
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11-10-2009, 01:33 AM	#175
carnews Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? I am sure your success story is encouraging for many, as I am sure many would like... more details maybe? :-)
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11-11-2009, 06:59 PM	#182
joelraitt Master Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 297 Thanks: 1 Thanked 65 Times in 33 Posts Social Networking	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? OK guys, so I have had my inbox full of PM's wanting to be mentored, asking for my network, people willing to pay for help...im already mentoring a buddy right now, but I figure I could take on 2 more people and still have time to work on my own. this is what i was thinking. im thinking ( if it happens or not) the 10 day course would include: 1) a step by step guide on how to set up the system incuding - a) my network b) all the crazy little tricks about my traffic source that makes testing so much cheaper and easier c) how to track and test everything ( must or you will fail) d) other free programs and software i use and where to get it e) other stuff 2) unlimited emails asking questions directly to me with daily responses 3) have my AIM or skype to chat and ask stuff 4) 1 phone call per day at a max of 30 minutes long To be honest it doesnt matter to me if i do this or not, it would be nice to help a few people out...i figured out the comitment/time/effort to do all this for 2 people... with my time being so valuable...but i also understand some of you are just starting out ( not much coin), i figured a fair figure would be $750 for full access to me and system and brain for the 10 days. 25% up front, then 50% at day 5, then 25% on completion. if you dont think it was worth it, ill give you the money back. i will be selecting the 2 people so please pm some of your history and why i should pick you. note: this is a rare chance....not sure if iw ill do it again...cant let everyone have these secrets, it wont be pretty ( as in the post above is typed fast and not edited) but it will work. if your serious about your business PM me why i should pick you. perhaps a phone call before commitment would be a good idea as well. just to see if you even like me and i like you. if its not fun i wont do it. good luck to all!
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11-11-2009, 09:11 PM	#183
isendtraffic Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? 12k in 21 days is 4k a week! Thats a good weeks pay no matter how much you spent on advertising. -Joe
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11-12-2009, 12:17 AM	#185
oscarkool Active Warrior Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 74 Thanks: 5 Thanked 19 Times in 6 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? I'm sorry but spending 41k to make a 12k profit is not that good and I don't know why people are getting all crazy over this. I'm sorry to crash the party, but that's just a fact. If you're spending a crap load of money to make a 20% ROI, that's not good. In fact, anything less than a 100% ROI needs to be tweaked until it gets to 100%. If you want to do well on facebook, stick to dating ads or e-mail submits. I was doing 300% ROI direct-linking e-mail submits. Then I started doing rebills and mobile and got banned

11-12-2009, 11:25 AM	#190
DailyConversions Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 39 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? cool, nice story

11-14-2009, 01:03 PM	#195
ukbuddy2 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: dorset, uk Posts: 264 Thanks: 2 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Hey THis is an interesting thread with loads of conflciting advice Hey Joe not a newb but need some help up to the next level you would not be wasting time with 'how to apply' what is a campaign' questions ANd one email question a day is plenty!! or 10 min skypoe normaly works let me know if you have any more spaces left cheers danny
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11-14-2009, 01:37 PM	#196
jamx03 Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 27 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Very nice and motivating thread. I did some ppc initially without success. Since then I stayed away from it. I think I have to look at it again. thanks for motivation. Jamx

11-14-2009, 07:57 PM	#198
mandela10 Persistence is my way out Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 62 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? I am also curious on how he did that.

11-15-2009, 11:01 AM	#199
anwar001 Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: , , India. Posts: 1,618 Thanks: 256 Thanked 186 Times in 116 Posts Social Networking	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? First of all congrats on an your amazing success. This post surely has lifted my moods a great deal as it had made me realize the immense potential in IM. It has also renewed my interest in trying out ppc again. I had left it off after trying it for a couple of months and not noticing and good results. And that was long back when I was quite inexperienced in internet marketing. Maybe now that I have a lot more experience in IM, I should try it out again to speed things further up. Great going man, you rock. And thanks so much for posting about your success and providing inspiration to us.
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11-15-2009, 02:44 PM	#200
ukbuddy2 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: dorset, uk Posts: 264 Thanks: 2 Thanked 15 Times in 14 Posts	Re: I went From $27 Rev in July to over $45,000 rev so far this month...questions? Hey Joe My inbox was full try and pm me again re my email Danny
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