Burtgummer

So I'm really interested in CPA. But I was wondering if people have found it easier to promote and to get conversions with CPA compared to Clickbank products.

I had a fairly bad experience a few months ago with PPC and Clickbank Products, so I'd like to know how much alike CPA and Clickbank are. I've got more knowledge under my belt now about PPC, so I'm hoping I can get off to a somewhat good start.

Also, are there any free guides that I can read to get a general idea of CPA, such as what CPA landing pages look like, and what sort of content they have on them?

Thanks!

-Sean

“Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.” -Nikola Tesla

Kenster

Yes, CPA is a much different beast and in my opinion, a much better beast.

You can find tons of offers that have darn good payout considering the user need not take out his credit card. They just have to fill out some information about themselves. I have done clickbank as well and still do with some niches that I cant find a good cpa offer to deliver the specific traffic source.

Clickbank users must buy something, something that costs 27 or 37 bucks whatever and you get 20 bucks. Doesnt that seem a lot harder to convert than trying to get somebody to pay $1 for shipping and handling on a RFT and you make $35 commission or getting somebody to fill out their name address and some other non credit-card info and you get $9?


So yes, in my opinion, cpa is far easier and far more lucrative than clickbank.

Burtgummer

That's what I've been liking what I'm seeing here. Zip submits especially. Sure, they don't have a bigger payout like others, but still, most people don't mind putting in their zip since it isn't really personal data. And yeah, not having to ask for a CC number must make a big difference the more I think about it.

“Today's scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality.” -Nikola Tesla

cpanewbie

Kenster,
This is my first post in WF and I have been unsuccesful on the clibank route as well.
The more research I do the more I seem to be pulled to the CPA route.
I saw in another of your post you thought honestbiz's $10 wso (i have no idea what a wso is yet) was good. Any other products that you would recommend to a newbie in getting started with cpa?
Needless to say free resources would be great but inexepensive is fine as long as it is useful content and doesn't break the bank as I realize there is a learning curve with everything and education beats getting burned.
Thanks for any input you can provide!
Kevin

goingup

With CPA can you use the landing pages they provide to send traffic to directly
from articles? If the offer is something like an email submit I dont understand how you could make a separate landing page for it. They'd have to enter the info twice?
If you have to make a separate landing page, how do you do it? Non techie, obviously.

Only dead fish go with the flow.

Kenster

First of all, welcome to this forum. Its a great place to learn everything you need to do well in cpa. And welcome to cpa!

Yes, WSO is a warrior special offer and they are normally guides written by fellow warriors...there is a special section for this.

I liked Honestbiz cpa guide and it was one of my introductions to cpa. I also took a course which was 2k, so you may not be able to afford that, but that is completely fine!

At the end of the day, you can learn everything you need to make money with cpa on this forum and for free. You can buy guides and programs and coaching to help speed up learning, but it is not neccessary to have a ton of money to do well in this business.


I would reccomend....

1. Start reading this forum and learning how to get accepted to cpa networks. pm me if you have any problems

2. Read this forum a little bit each day. Learn the lingo and tricks of the trade

3. Every day take action. Whether that be starting a blog even if you dont know what the heck youre doing or whether it be writing articles to promote a cpa offer

4. As you learn, keep implementing and keep taking action.

5. When you get more comfortable with the different directions in cpa you can take, stick to one or two traffic sources and try to master them.

6. When you earn your first money, re-invest in tools, in other campaigns, anything to help you build your business.

7. Approach everything you do as a business. Be diligent, track every expense and make sure every action you take is geared towards reaching your business goal.



Good luck and remember to always take action. Dont just spectate and dont just learn learn learn without actually doing anything.


Good luck buddy

cpanewbie

Thanks for the words of encouragement and like you I have a diverse backrgound between corporate insurance, residential real estate and so on. I know it will be hardwork but nothing good comes without it. I've already found a ton of great threads on here for CPA so I'm looking forward to pushing through!

Cash37

Too many people do buybacks on Clickbank, its really BS but I understand why they do it. CPA is not necessarily better, but the conversions are more stable IMO.

Kenster

I would recommend the larger more established netowkr like neverblue, hydra, clickbooth, lidango

As far as offers, traditional cpa offers range and you can do well with every kind of offer. Email submits and one field submits are the easiest to convert so newbies normally start with them especially if they are doing free methods. You need to generate a lot of traffic to make serious money though! But its good to get your feet wet with.

In the health niche, there are many risk free trials which have a higher payout but are more difficult than email submits to convert because people must whip out their credit card.


But there isnt one good network or one good offer. It all depends on where youre getting your traffic from and ultimately comes to a ton of testing testing testing.


And yes, cpa is generally much better than clickbank...in my opinion anyways.

kindsvater

I wouldn't say there is any difference between "CPA" and ClickBank.

CPA is Cost Per Action.

The Action could be a sale - just as with ClickBank.

The difference is in the offers and what you are doing on your website.

Some CPA offers appear 'easier' because the Action may be getting someone to submit their email or a zip code to participate in an offer.

Obviously, those 'easier' offers also tend to pay less.

With ClickBank ("regular" affiliate programs) you can find offers with recurring monthly commissions. You typically do not find that with 'CPA' offers.

Within networks such as Neverblue, you'll see offers based on leads and also sales (just like ClickBank).

Ultimately, the question is what do you have on your web page that will be of interest to buyers, and what makes you the most money.

It might be a ClickBank product. It might be a lead generator. It might be Adsense. It might be something else.

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