paowiee1

hi guys,

i'm looking for affiliate networks that have dating niche offers. I'm currently registering with azoogle and have been rejected by market leverage. Pepper Jam Ads seem to be out of the question because I don't have a US tax number.

Any suggestions? I'm open to joining your affiliate link if the offers are really good in the ad network you suggested

Thanks!

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paowiee1

any adnetworks that don't mind CL traffic?

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Wayne Liew

Craigslist and dating affiliate programs made me think of the old black hat trick where you try to deceive horny men by pretending as a lusty woman. Stay away from these as affiliate networks don't like this.

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Emailrevealer

I sent you a PM paowiee1.
I have an inhouse affiliate program in the dating niche . The link is in my sig. I don't mind CL either.

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zigotalove

Great article helped me a lot, but i am still looking foe a net that will advertise my dating website ads for money and not for another banner.

Thoma$

I have been an affiliate for the main white label dating providers for years, and the number one is without any doubt White Label Dating Affiliate Program,FREE affiliate dating sites | White Label Dating Affiliate Program. No other white label dating solution/dating affiliate provider comes even close. The branded/template websites they design are super professional and good looking, the data analysis is limitless, and they're also the best when it comes to tracking, commission rates, conversion and retention rates. If you're not interested in creating your own white label dating site, they also offer an affiliate system where you can promote somebody else's website with an affiliate link. Let me know if you need more info. PS: the link is also in my sig because I am a top affiliate with them and have special agreements with them, but they're genuinely the best, I have affiliate links with other networks but I won't mention them because they don't come close.

Edit: sorry for being a bit off-topic, just noticed you asked about affiliate networks with dating offers. But if you're interested in the dating niche, seriously check them out, their in-house affiliate and white label program is just unbelievable.

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ChrisBa

I'm pretty sure most (if not all) offers do not allow CL traffic.. best bet is to ask your AM's though..

pacelattin

There are lots of Dating Programs that work, and if you have good dating traffic, the best is really to go directly and get paid per sale. SOme of that is long term money.

Dating programs used to pay $5-6 per new sign up, no longer with all the fraud and other issues.

beyondderek

CL is tough, but yea like pace said obtaining good dating traffic is not that hard and doesn't require a huge budget. Try some other outlets networks tend to stay away from this stuff.

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beyondderek

It's too early in the game for me to PM you but contact me for details

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sdas86

I wonder promoting dating sites really works? Is there anyone would like to join online dating sites?

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I have send you PM for best converting online dating CPA offers

Thoma$

Online dating is still (and probably always will be) one of the biggest markets on the internet (along with internet marketing, weight loss etc...). And yes, dating is also one of the most (if not the most) lucrative.

Every day, white label dating programs like the one in my signature create new niches or subniches and allow you to create dating websites geo targeted to very specific locations (country, city, even specific neighborhoods) which in turn increases the demand for niche dating (people are getting tired of mainstream dating because it becomes harder and harder to find people with similar interests) and gives people the possibility to register to dating websites that correspond to what they like or what they do in life, where they live etc...

What this means for the webmaster (you) is although the demand is (obviously) not as huge, the competition becomes much smaller and it becomes way easier to make money with dating.

Just don't go and try to promote "dating", instead create a dating website for disabled people or vegetarians and you'll rank much faster/more easily.

Here is a detailed article about niche dating and how to promote dating websites using niches:

http://www.whitelabeldatingsolutions...t-from-dating/

cpaddiction

NBA, EWA, Adsimilis, Ploose for sure

Thoma$

I agree 100% with this. Many programs or dating offers pay per lead. Newbies see a quick buck, but the reason why they do this is because they make much more money off you in the long run than a few bucks per signup.

On a good white label dating network, the retention can be as high as 5-6 months or more depending on your niche, meaning much higher long-term profits. On the long run, if you divide your total revenue by your total number of leads (or free signups), you see that the revenue share model with a good dating affiliate program is a lot more profitable than the average pay per lead dating offer.

Also, always choose a white label dating network that offers high commission rates especially in your first months which is where you need the best return on investment so you can reinvest in your marketing (the one in my signature gives every affiliate 65% on all initial and recurring payments for the first 3 months, which is quite good for newbies who want to start with a low (or no) budget.

MakeMoneyJames

Has anyone else not noticed this topic was started on 09-23-2008, 08:09 AM and brought back to life by a SPAMMER??????

Thoma$

If I am the one you are calling a spammer, FYI my posts are probably more informative and on-topic than yours will ever be... and please learn how to read dates, this thread has been brought back to life by Zigitalove on the 11th of October, a few weeks before I answered. But because he only has one post, of course you will imply that this is a fake account I created... is that how you're growing your (16 posts) post count ? Going to random threads and calling people spammers ? Write something useful instead.

MakeMoneyJames

I never mentioned you and you get a temper tantrum like a child. "My posts are better than yours!" Seriously? So emotional and childish.

And I do know how to read dates. Zigitalove looks like a SPAM post. Maybe I am wrong.. I'm okay with that. Whatever. Like who respondes to a post thats 3 years old. Just create a new one.

Are you assuming I'm calling you a spammer because you are promoting your own site in your post? Probably?

Keep talking about how much better you are and making negative remarks about me. I like it.

I'm actually looking for white label dating too. I do a decent amount with CPA dating and will be on daily payments soon.

Thoma$

I'm sorry I overreacted. Yes I did assume you were calling me a spammer because so many people jump on conclusions and call you a spammer just because you talk about a topic that you know in detail and happen to be promoting it at the same time. So yes this is also why I thought I was the one you called a spammer (zigitalove post does look like a spam post, but because he didn't post a link, doesn't have a signature and has only one post, I assumed you were probably not talking about him). Anyway sorry for the confusion, as to your posts I didn't actually check any of them. I was just reacting on impulse.

PS: What do you mean you "will be on daily payments" soon ?

MakeMoneyJames

To be honest i didnt read your post I just saw it was a 3 year old topic and someone that "looks" like a spam post repsonded brought it back to life. Its quite alright we all sometiems overreact - I do it too

CPA Networks normally pay monthly/weekly but they will also pay daily payments if you do enough volume. Usually around 10k a day. I would like to do whitelabel or direct with advertiser and the payout will be higher, but normally they pay net 15 (i thihnk) which put a strain on ad spend.

CPA Networks are good to get on weekly or daily payments. And not sure who is scrubbing, but we are being scrubbed clicks and leads. Already scrubbed over 6,000 clicks and its only 1:20pm. Close to 800 leads so far day only half way through. Losing hundreds of dollars because of scrubbed clicks/leads.

So may not get on daily payments since might have to split the traffic into different networks.

Thoma$

Yes, well I still should work on that temper ^^

Thanks for explaining, to be honest I have worked with the main white label dating providers (both online and in their actual offices) and have been a top affiliate with several, but I am not very familiar with CPA networks. So I had no clue they allowed daily payments for affiliates with large volumes.

Yes, that's right. The one I work with pays net 15, bi-monthly. This is due to chargebacks and frauds. Not sure why this should be a problem though if you know how to manage your budget/ad spend ? The first payment is delayed but then you still get paid on a regular basis. But in any case, WhiteLabelDatingSolutions is very flexible and there is probably something they can do.

When I worked for these white label dating providers, there was also a lot of talk about affiliate networks and programs that shave clicks. Unfortunately, a lot of them do it. The one in my signature doesn't, I know it for a fact for working with them in two different white label dating companies for years. Not trying to self-promote but I do have access to quite a bit of insider information about those companies, and the reason I'm working with this white label dating provider and not another one is because i genuinely know for a fact no competitor comes even close (conversion rates, retentions, payments, tracking, quality of white label sites etc...) so if you need more information, let me know and I'll point you in the right direction.

MakeMoneyJames

Hey Thomas,

The reason why bi weekly payments would be an issues is because it holds up ad spend. Getting paid bi- weekly I will have to wait 2 weeks, plus the few days it takes to see the money in the bank.

I have a winning campaign and want to scale it to spend $25,000-$50,000 a day and on bi weekly payments I would need around $500,000 to risk.

On daily payments its much easier to scale campaigns. Would be doing around $10,000 a day now if it weren't for the scrubbing and still have plenty of room to scale this single campaign about another 75% on ad spend.

Thoma$

Thanks for the clarification James. My traffic coming mostly from SEO, PPC and affiliates, I never really had to worry about this.

But I've been thinking about paid campaigns lately so I might soon have the same headaches as you do, although I have never been really attracted to CPA because I like better to think long term with the shared revenue models and recurring payments, building my brand and database. Also, I heard a lot about affiliate networks scrubing clicks and leads and the lack of transparency of such networks makes me wonder.

Bessie Daniels

To be honest , I had suggest cupid PLC for working as a dating affliate though , I myself has not tried it but you can see the offer in warrioforum , and the owner is a very legit guy and earnings seem to be very high per conversion , so i had suggest you go by that way !

write27

Thomas, if you don't mind me asking, what kind of income are you making off this White Label dating solutions website? For example, is this just a little extra spending money, or is it enough to pay the rent, bills and have extra leftover for saving? I have thought of doing a dating website myself at some point, but am not sure how profitable it can be.

Thoma$

No, I don't mind you asking. Without getting too specific, it's in the high 4 figures range (monthly) and has been since the company was created about 2 years and a half ago. So it is definitely profitable, especially considering most of my websites and campaigns are over 2 years old and I haven't touched my campaigns or done any additional SEO since then.

Of course I won't lie and tell you you can convert any rubbish traffic into millions. Nobody can. But decent traffic does convert extremely well and retention rates are really high, especially on some particular niches. Anybody who joins them, just PM me here and I will tell you what niches have the best conversion and retention rates.

MakeMoneyJames

Definetely white labeling is a step up from being an affiliate in a business sense. Getting paid weekly for free sign ups is very attractive for a lot of people and it can sometiem be easier to get into profit mode being an affiliate for dating than having your own site and waiting for sales, waiting to optimize, make money on the back end, and then actually get paid.

Affiliate networks are very flexible with payments and pay weekly and daily with enough volume which allows campaigns to be scaled VERY quickly. Spending 6 figures a day on traffic isnt hard, but making it profitable is.

I will definetly keep you in mind if I ever decide to white label. Its just a little further in the future for me. I have other plans before I decide to whitelabel and create my own products, but slowly and surely moving up the latter in a business sense - then to investor.

thanks for your help Thomas.

write27

If I decide to go with a solution like this, I will definitely PM you.

Right now, I have my fingers in a lot of pies, trying to see what will work for me.

My goal is to gain enough confidence in my ability to make a living in IM so I won't have to go back to a boring day job in corporate real estate (ugggh!).

Thoma$

Sounds good, I'll be happy to assist you should you decide to promote white label dating sites.

And good luck with Internet Marketing, it does feel good not to have a boring day job

Josh Ploose

Ploose is CPA a network that specializes in dating. We have a huge selection and we only work direct with advertisers which means higher payouts and reliability.

Message me on Skype or AIM -- joshploose -- or just signup at ploose.com

thanks

ebizwizard

Neverblue is my recommendation. Pays on time and the AM's there are always on AIM.

- Good luck and good flow

Thoma$

I agree, I had a good experience with NeverBlueAds so far. Can't comment on their dating offers though as I am quite happy with whitelabeldatingsolutions and not interested in CPA dating offers (a waste of long-term money in my opinion).