Mark Blaze

Hey Warriors,

Not sure if you have noticed it too but CPA free trial offers are dissapearing fast and so are their conversions.

Most of them now have big disclaimers just before the visitor goes and pays for their free trial which says they will get rebilled or this will happen etc etc and makes them not want to signup.

Ok that's good for the visitor and means that the trials that are left will just be good ones that are not 'scams' and will more than likely stay around for alot longer which is of course a good thing.

But still i bet thousands of cpa marketers here have lost out on a big amount of money! and their incomes have dropped dramatically.

So what are the alternatives?

Of course their is amazon, ebay, cj, private affiliate programs, clickbank, paydotcom and just sticking to the freebie cpa offers (email or zip submit in general).

Is this good? is this bad? i want to hear what you think about this and also what you are doing now to keep your income up!

Mark Blaze

Kenster

There are still tons of CPA offers besides rebills.

And I dont think rebills will go away. They will get cleaned up which is a good thing. Rebills are only a small part of the CPA industry though. Trust me, CPA is not going away anytime soon...but I hope everybody thinks so. You can all run to clickbank and amazon etc and leave more room for me here!!!!!!

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Mark Blaze

By CPA i did mean traditional cpa within companies and the offers such as maxbounty, copeac, neverblue etc etc.

But have you not noticed a drop in conversions on the offers you are currently promoting due to changes and a whole load of them being deleted recently?

Mark Blaze

CPAmojo

I agree with Kenster. Is this really a bad thing? Do you sleep well at night knowing you're promoting a product that rips people off? Not only do these companies give you a bad rep, but also the CPA Networks that provide them. Is it worth a couple bucks (or thousand) to ruin your reputation?

The CPA Networks are straight up dropping these types of offers because they know it could come back to bite them.

Lou Diamond

Hello,
I really do not understand why people are happy to post this type of doom and gloom,
there is going to be a evolution for the better.
Are you trying to scare people from getting into this field?
Can someone explain this to me.
Thanks.
Lou

Something new soon.

Jeremy Kelsall

The industry to some extent is policing itself - which is a good thing.

There definitely are fewer and fewer rebills out there to promote, I wrote about this on my blog just the other day.

All of the offers will eventually come back, but many of them will have the big disclaimers on them, so conversion rates are going to go down a bit etc...Just have to find different "ins" on what you chose to promote.

Mark Blaze

Now your trying to make it sound like i chose offers that are there to rip people off, that was not the idea at all!

I prefer to promot thing's that people are interested in and i just give them my buy link! I do my part and check to see if its a scam first and all but i doubt you personally go through every cpa offer, submit your credit card and wait to see if it's any good! Right?

This is a good change i feel but at the moment it's in a 'dip' which is causing me to loose out on alot of cash at the end of the day... which is never good!

Mark Blaze

Mark Blaze

If doom and gloom is the truth, then its the truth that i will tell!

Im sure in a month or a few months the cpa industry is going to be even better but at the moment my incomes dropped, a load of cpa offers have dropped and im sure it's the same for alot of others!

Mark Blaze

Mark Blaze

I suppose it all just comes down to checking each offer over with a fine tooth comb and making sure it will convert well before putting in the time, energy and money into promoting it!

Mark Blaze

ChrisBa

I honestly think your making too big of a deal over this, affiliate marketing and cpa offers have been around LONG before rebills and they will be around long after..

Cash37

I was never a heavy rebiller. But I always told the terms in plain english. Being a former telemarketer I know from SPEAKING TO LIVE PEOPLE that they WILL sign up if you dont hide the terms. On all my landers I told them how many days they had to return the product, and that the $1 was for the trial bottle only. Maybe I could have scammed it up but I sleep better knowing that some mom out there isnt getting rebilled $80 she could spend on groceries because of me.

Mark Blaze

I also put the terms in baby language for everyone and still got good conversions but since the offer's themselves have put big disclaimers all over them which is really just scaring off the potential clients and customers my conversion ratio has dropped.

Time to find some new offers i think.

Mark Blaze

redicelander

You need to diversify, Mark. CPA is much bigger than rebill offers. All those networks you mentioned also have plenty of great other kinds of offers.

Also, how about focusing on traffic outside the U.S.? No FTC, there...

JayInOrlando

I have a great Acai offer, that isn't affected by this whole mess. Terms are stated, but they don't scare anyone away.

PM if interested.

Jay

Sylonious

1. Let's be honest. I find it more than a little strange that so many people don't know that they will be rebilled for "FREE-TRIAL" offers.

I can understand someone getting upset who thought they would just try the product and cancel before the re-billing period, but a lot of these people don't seem to have basic common sense.

Who here thinks that a trial-offer of anything is free forever?

2. It's all subjective. There are probably plenty of people that think dating services on the CPAMojo network are scams too. I've seen people on webmaster world and DP say that all Clickbank and CPA offers are scams...

CPAmojo

@Sylonious

The claim that all CPA offers are scams isn't too far from the truth. I mean what do you think is going to happen to the emails on email submits? They are going to get spammed to crap and then once they are of no use to them, they resell the list.

The dishonest part about the free trials were the fine print terms. You had to search the 10 page long terms of service to find that you would be charged $80/month if you don't cancel your 7 day trial. The worst offenders made it impossible for those people to cancel before the 7 days.

I am not saying all Free Trials are scams, just those who abused it. I am also saying the new FTC rules are for the better as they force the companies to show how much the customer will be charged and when on the front page.

I think dating sites are the "nicest" in the CPA industry. None of them are free trials, just free profiles. IF the person wants to upgrade, then they will be presented with a monthly fee that they voluntarily sign up for. Canceling is a click away, not a 15 minute phone call.

AffiliateMax

Very true. Not to mention that they also constantly change product names, company names, addresses, telephone numbers etc (making cancellation almost impossible), hide behind offshore shell companies in Cyprus etc and often have no genuine contact details anywhere (only an outsourced call centre number and a fake address). Some have even hijacked legitimate non-related companies (eg: using the trading name and address of a legitimate but non-trading/dormant UK Ltd company) so that the complaints (and returned products) were sent to an innocent third party!

And yet most cpa networks (and their affiliates) seem to have no issues with having these criminals as clients and promoting this garbage - as long as they make money who cares that thousands of people get ripped off.

The cpa industy is not going to self-police or clean up it's own act - the FTC, Mastercard, Visa etc are going to do it for them eventually.

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