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Hello Fellow Warriors,

I want to give back to everyone and share an experience I recently had when checking my ClickBank account ;D

I was recently monitoring my ads on BuySellAds.com for a twitter service I'm running, then I started to browse through their available sites.

Note: If you're unfamiliar with BuySellAds.com (which I'm sure many are, it's relatively small) they are primarily focused on Web Dev and Social Media websites and all things accordingly. They only allow websites such as that into their network, but they have some pretty top-tier sites and networks.

So I started browsing through and wanted to see if any correlated to any ClickBank products. Lo and Behold, quite a few did!

So I emailed BuySellAds.com and asked if we could use affiliate links on sites that we wanted to advertise with, and they said no problem.

So I browsed through their available sites and found one related to Twitter that cost $50 a month for over half a million impressions.

I then went into ClickBank and looked at Twitter related products, found one that was converting at a "claimed" 2%-8% and had over 100 gravity.

I grabbed one of the 125x125 banner and slapped my affiliate link on their and submitted it.

The great thing about BuySellAds.com is that your ad usually goes live instantly, and at most 24 hours later.

This was 4 days ago. I logged into my CB account today to find that the ad which I spent $50 on had already netted $175 in affiliate commissions and its only been 4 days! The ads run for 30 days based on that price!!

Another huge advantage of BuySellAds.com is live tracking. They have live tracking for impressions and CTR, then you can track conversions in CB.

I just wanted to point out this network for anyone looking to do some experimentation. Based on my initial results, I'm going to do some more poking around and try and find some more sites on BuySellAds.com that correlate to products on ClickBank.

The best part was I didn't have to make a website, I didn't have to design graphics, I didn't have to do keyword research and I didn't have to do any SEO!

I hope this can help some warrior out there make a buck or two!

Good luck Warriors! Let me know if you've any questions!

-Amy

damham

think i will work better for cpa since there is no buying

Kenster

Good stuff. I've heard of buysellads but haven't done much with them. Great to share one of the many gems out there.

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tehering

Thanks for sharing this with us Amy...

I recently saw this network featured in a recent guru video...
it definitely merits further attention...

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bioshift

Nice, thanks for the generous thread!

laird

Pretty sweet. Wonder if there are ad networks for health/athletics, mother/baby niches too.

bioshift

checked this out and it seemed odd that the amount of impressions seemed to have no relevance to the price per ad placement. There were some 100,000 imp ads costing 120 bucks and some 500,000 imp ads costing 50 bucks... must be due to what the site owner will take for the placement. that's all I could guess.

Anyway, this seems like a good place to test conversions.

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Awesome thread. I'm really tight on cash, ive been thinkin about possibly buying your stumble wso.

Nail Yener

There is not a single day that I do not get new ideas from this forum. I have been looking for media buys for my CPA campaigns and never thought of such networks dealing with buying and selling ad spaces on lots of websites. Now I have very good options. And it is nice that they accept PayPal payments.

Thanks for sharing this Amy.

Cash37

Cool stuff. buysellads was crappy for me when I tested it.

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BuySellAds is all hit or miss, at least that's what we've experienced with a Twitter pas related site, however sometimes you can find sites with half a million impressions + for $20 a month and garner some decent CTR'S and hopefully conversions. I'm definitely ogin to be trying it out some more and cross test it with some sub'ids and other offers. I'm curious to see how other products may convert on BuySellAds

-Amy

FrankBowman

I use them also. You need to carefully match your offer to the site. CPA can be tough because a lot of their sites are about design and coding, so you have to keep a look out for relevant offers.

I'm going to try CB now, but only with a few of the site, 2-3 max, preferably the cheap ones...LOL...........actually CJ might be better than CB........gotta look for something thats fits the site.

Also before picking a site to advertise on with buy/sellads, make sure to check its demographics with places like quantcast.

Does anyone know of similar sites like buy/sellads, but with a wider range of site topics?

Wham

your right it has to do with placement, but more importantly the ad size. Even though the price might be lower for the same or more impressions your getting a way tiny ad space to work with.

TE2

Here are two tips for you...

1. Ad position matters
2. Quality of the site's traffic matters

Regards,

John

Global365

Great Resource Amy, Thanks. I had been aware of them before but never really took the time to browse their sites...a lot of hi impression sites for low costs, even if they don't convert great for branding..

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macchiavelli

I once purchased an ad via buysellads for $800 bucks.
Got about 100 clicks a day on that ad for a month and could not convert anything on that particular site.

Uber fail in my opinion but I learned allot during that time.
I should have done my research because most of the websites traffic was german and only 15% was US traffic....my stupid fault.
It sucks losing $800 and media buys when started on a low budget can take too much time to gain information.

Anyway, great share!

Heidi White

Regarding Tip #1 - What's more valuable - Banner Ad across top, or small square ad in Right SideBar?'

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I've found that right sidebar are better because I see them not only generate more clicks, but they usually cost significantly less than banners.

I feel like 125 boxes or 234 rectangles stand out more, they have a better chance at being seen than typical 728 banners which are relatively "buyer" invisible.

I choose a product on CB that had over 100 gravity and a nice landing page, I've since gotten another sale and it's already paid for the ad 4 times over. Maybe I just got lucky on one, but I did my research and investigate the target site for competition and what type of content they were providing/had provided, then checked to see how visitors might feel when landing on the offer and how it could potentially directly relate to the sites content.

I'm curious too about other smaller ad networks such as these, that insert on smaller niche sites directly, anyone have any suggestions?

-Amy

Sevenhills

Guys,

Saw some interesting websites there for some good prices.

Now is my question.. Could this be used to promote poker/casino websites as well using your own affiliate link and banner?

Lets say.. Promoting Poker Stars or Full tilt?

Mark Blaze

Well this twitter niche is going to get saturated quickly!

But have really been looking alot more into buying ads to get affiliate commissions and hopefully this smaller network might be the big start i need.

Thanks

Mark Blaze

socomplete

Thanks for the post, buysellads is an easy to use service. I did not make anything when I tried them out but, as with anything its just finding what works and doing the same thing over and over again.

Going to sites like compete.com and quantcast.com in order to look at demographics and the volume that those sites are receiving. Especially compete.com because you can see if the traffic that that site is generating is rising not falling, and the number of unique visitors is very important as well.

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redicelander

Great thread. Here's the proof to all those who think you have to start with $5000 or $10,000 to do media buys. It's just not so.

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Might be hard to promote poker CPA's because A) no poker sites, B) they said they usually don't accept ads outside of niche and C) might be hard to convert some (especially on poker CPA's which require a good bit of stuff for the lead?)

If I were going at it i'd stay directly within those niches or a product that's relatable or useable. But there are quite a few, I'm browsing CB now to see if this first one was a fluke or if I can find some more good ones!

I'll report back!

-Amy

Mark Blaze

I was randomly browsing through some of the publishers on there and one of them had a poker popup on the site! So it might work well on that one.

Now if only there was a method to tell which ad's have been there the longest :S any ideas? Then its more of a copy and profit type setup!

Mark Blaze

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Mark,

Try the Wayback Machine on Internet Archive: Free Movies, Music, Books & Wayback Machine It spiders copies of "the internet" and on some of those sites you may be able to check links and see where they are pointing! Hope this helps!

-Amy

Mark Blaze

Ah yes i suppose that will work for some of them!

Suppose it's a case of tracking them for a few months prior to spending the bigger cash to see if they work (or else just tracking and testing).

Thanks

Mark Blaze

laurenceh

Amy it looks like you are just direct linking here. How many clicks vs concersions were there? Would be interesting to see whether driving the clicks to your own squeeze page and then to the offer may be useful for getting the best roi for the ads.

I'd be interested in seeing the results of a split test with that one.

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Thanks for your help, encouragement and information! Take care, SVH

mjbiel

Amy thanks for the info. Got one question, how did you find banners to promote clickbank products because I have tried promoting CB products and the only thing I have is the link they give me. Is there somewhere on the clickbank site that has the products for banners.
Thanks for your help

bioshift

From my experience only the well put together CB offers have affiliate banners for us to use... Check at the bottom of the sales page for an affiliates link. this should take you to the offer's affiliate section. Smart product owners will give you some banners. It is kinda a pain compared to Neverblue or something, but worth it when you consider the well produced offers will have better conversion testing behind them. Hope that helps.

Rick Warrior

Thanks Amy it never fails I learn something new every visit. This Warrior Forum is the greatest Alice. Just joking Jackie! I'm old school keep up the good work Amy.
Cheers

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Surely!

To date I've had just shy of 175k impressions, 152 clicks at .09 CTR and 7 sales so far.

Hope that helps!

-Amy

MrCruzin

This would not be what I would call a media buy. Maybe a mini-media-buy but this will show you and give you an idea how the bigger ones will work..........


another network to test things on and have some fun is

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Definitely, but it's a good way to get your feet wet. I'm curious about media buys as well, like everything I'm sure copious testing is involved for maximum results. So far this BuySellAds campaign has been quite profitable, especially since I wasn't even thinking it'd break even, but had to try!

I'm going to experiment with some other sites to test results, monitor traffic and see if it's a fluke or if those browsing BuySellAds related sites are "buying" traffic.

Thanks for the feedback everyone! Given me some great ideas!

-Amy

Sevenhills

Well I saw some "gaming niche" websites, those are of course related to computer games.. But hey, online poker is a computer game as well, right

JayYamada

Sorry for posting this, but I'm a complete newbie to this, please clarify.

So basically with this, what I do is

1) Get a product to promote on Clickbank
2) Post that product's affiliate link on BuySellAds
3) Watch money grow?

Is that it? Please assist, Interested to try this out.

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Well jay thats the process, yes, but before you do any of that, do research. I looked around the target sites where the ads were going live and checked what kind of service/information they had and how that could potentially lead into the product I was promoting on ClickBank. Find offers that correlate or else you'll be wasting money. Theres a ton of offers and a ton of sites, try and find the closest match.

There's a lot of good deals on BSA for some pretty high impressions for the cost, so if you dig around I'm sure you can find a winner within.

-Amy

trueplay

does it cost to get started??

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gettingbigger

I know the owner (Todd) at BSA- very down to earth, easy going guy. He has a ton of sites and I think there is definitely some great potential there. I personally have had better luck with bigger ad sizes like the 728x90 over the 125x125.

ladyfoster

has anyone else had any success with this?

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Dayne Dylan

I'm testing 6 banner ads as we speak for one month. I will see how it goes and let you know

Palusko

Lot of the sites are blogs on the network are blogs, many of them very specific, web design and web development oriented blogs. I was looking into that to promote my web design business, but did not do it, simply because the target audience are not my customers, but rather competitors (or future competitors). Many of the visitors are also foreigners, which may not be your target audience.
A quick note - lot of the ads rotate, depending on how many ads the site allows. So if your ad is not displaying when you check it out, it is nothing to worry about.
Also, lot of the blogs have a stable audience, meaning, that once your ads show, the sales are made within short period of time, because the new members (and new potential customers) are not gained in hundreds a day, as it is with forums. But that of course depends on the blog/site, the way the owner promotes it etc. But I would guess, that once your sales start dropping, they will most likely not pick up and you should move to another site. Of course, you could place the ad back after some time, just analyze the membership and traffic figures.

blackjack

Hi Amy

Can you share some of your research tips for BSA? Some of the site I looked had last post from 2008 etc.


Is there an advance search i.e. search all site which cost $40 per month with xxxxx impressions etc?

Thannks

Dayne Dylan

Blackjack, just login to BSA and you can limit the ads how you want. Did you even look?

redicelander

Great. I would call it a media buy (because that's what it is) and so would many others. Instead of using the hypen, just call it a "small" media buy. You're thinking of "large" media buys where you need thousands of dollars to get going. Media buys can be very cheap, but the word always connotates $5K and $10K buy-ins, which it really shouldn't. People in IM think you have to do PPC and PPV before getting in to the expensive world of "media buys," which is a misconception. It's a term which encompasses all kinds of purchases of ad space. That's all the term means. In internet marketing, banner ads put on a site for a set price per month qualifies under the general term.

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Hey!

If you log in you can set criteria for what you want to see, example impressions, price and size. You can also filter by keywords and so on. I'd encourage you to have a look around, it's free!

For me, I logged in and looked around already knowing there were twitter sites. Then I browsed around CB and looked for twitter related products that had over 100 gravity, nice looking sale pages, decent payout and affiliate tools. All these were critical to ensure not only that the product was selling, but that the seller was focused on the product and service enough to make affiliate tools.

I then looked around and found a twitter site that had products for sale to find a buying audience, so they wouldn't just be clicking and not converting!

-Amy

arissa

I think u should add this as bonus for your current WSO hahahaha

Simon74

Thank you for the info, I will try it out...

All the best,
Simon

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Good Idea! However they're not too related niche wise! I am currently doing some testing now to see if the results are easily duplicated. Might pop out a nice free WSO for everyone as a thanks!

-Amy