PPC and CPA

esr · 04-08-2010, 12:03 AM

I've just spent an hour searching Adwords for an answer to my question and found nothing but the same question by other users.

I am just getting started with CPA offers. I was FINALLY approved. Anyway, all I want to know is this:

I choose to promote offer X. Can I set up a domain, OfferX, set up a 301 redirect to the offer page, and advertise it on Adwords with the original domain?

Adwords Ad
OfferX >>>>>>> www.offersite.com/myuniqueID

Does Adwords allow this?

Michael Hastings · 04-08-2010, 01:12 AM

As far as I know, this is allowed. I have read that if done right, PPC and CPA are very lucrative.

indexphp · 04-08-2010, 01:25 AM

Don't listen to the guy above me. If he has ever used Adwords, he would know that the display URL in your ad must be the same domain that your redirect/affiliate link resolves to.

Just put in the merchant URL and direct link with youre affiliate link. Since youre talking about doing PPC, you should use Prosper202, so you can track ROI by keyword and adcopy (important!)

brendanwenzel · 04-08-2010, 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indexphp

Don't listen to the guy above me. If he has ever used Adwords, he would know that the display URL in your ad must be the same domain that your redirect/affiliate link resolves to.

Just put in the merchant URL and direct link with youre affiliate link. Since youre talking about doing PPC, you should use Prosper202, so you can track ROI by keyword and adcopy (important!)

This is good advice here. Especially the tracking. It's the best thing you'll do for your business.

Affiliit · 04-08-2010, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indexphp

Don't listen to the guy above me. If he has ever used Adwords, he would know that the display URL in your ad must be the same domain that your redirect/affiliate link resolves to.

Just put in the merchant URL and direct link with youre affiliate link. Since youre talking about doing PPC, you should use Prosper202, so you can track ROI by keyword and adcopy (important!)

Yes! This is true.

Kenster · 04-08-2010, 06:33 AM

Why not try building your own landing page on the domain you bought, that will be your destination and that will help you achieve much better quality score. Always keep in the back of your mind that the Google guys (and others) and smart. If you find a way around a rule, it will normally be short lived.

RyanParenti · 04-08-2010, 06:48 AM

YES! use images on the content network and you can directly link with a high CTR

blarbie · 04-08-2010, 08:54 AM

is the content network in google better for cpa than the search ppc ads ?
and if so text ppc or images ?

esr · 04-08-2010, 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenster

Why not try building your own landing page on the domain you bought, that will be your destination and that will help you achieve much better quality score. Always keep in the back of your mind that the Google guys (and others) and smart. If you find a way around a rule, it will normally be short lived.

So I've heard. That's why I'm so hesitant to do anything until I know the fact. I don't want to be a "Google Slapee." LOL.

Of course I thought about doing a landing page, but I seriously suck at writing copy that makes people buy, click, etc. I'd have no idea what to put on it other than the words "click here." Not too creative, huh? LOL.

Does anyone know of any sort of free resource that teaches how to build responsive landing pages?

Kenster · 04-08-2010, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esr

So I've heard. That's why I'm so hesitant to do anything until I know the fact. I don't want to be a "Google Slapee." LOL.

Of course I thought about doing a landing page, but I seriously suck at writing copy that makes people buy, click, etc. I'd have no idea what to put on it other than the words "click here." Not too creative, huh? LOL.

Does anyone know of any sort of free resource that teaches how to build responsive landing pages?

I will be brief here but only because I there is no need otherwise

1. You will belong to the G-Slap club undoubtedly sometime in your CPA career.

2. Best resource is looking at what others are doing. Dont copy, but use the spirit! Its free

Ken

mpbiz · 04-12-2010, 01:04 AM

Of course they are! PPC to CPA offers is HUGE.

Kristikristo · 04-12-2010, 02:39 AM

On the domain just build a landing page. Good landing page will get a good score from google, and if you get a good score, it means that you can pay lower for a specific keyword. So my advice is to build a landing page.
By the way, what Affiliate Network were you accepted?

Murderface · 04-12-2010, 02:48 AM

esr-

I have to agree with kenster regarding LP's (i.e. just look at your competition).

Not only can you get an idea on which keywords your competitors are using, you can plainly see how your competition is writing their ads, writing their copy and their call-to-action etc. etc.

This does not mean that you should copy them word-for-word, but you can use them as a guide. There is even software available that will help you 'spy' on your competitors.

I mean, the campaigns are right there - just search for your keywords in google and take a look at the ads that are displayed. Click on some of the ad links and visit their website. You may even find another affiliate that is promoting the same offer as you. Obviously, this can lead to bidding wars, but you get the just of it.

The point is, everything that you are wanting to do, is probably being done already. Just look at what other people are doing, mix it up and see what works.

Good luck and take care,
-M

Michael Hastings · 04-12-2010, 03:29 AM

Wait someone correct me if I'm wrong but you can't ppc and redirect to your affiliate link? Or I-frame it so they see your domain name and not aff link? I thought this was allowed?

indexphp · 04-12-2010, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Hastings

Wait someone correct me if I'm wrong but you can't ppc and redirect to your affiliate link? Or I-frame it so they see your domain name and not aff link? I thought this was allowed?

Yes you can direct link to blahblah.com via your affiliate link.
But your ad cannot say offerxyz.com if it really goes to blahblah.com

Michael Hastings · 04-12-2010, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by indexphp

Yes you can direct link to blahblah.com via your affiliate link.
But your ad cannot say offerxyz.com if it really goes to blahblah.com

Oh ok I understand now. Thanks index.

RyanEagle · 04-12-2010, 12:13 PM

Buying traffic is really the only way to get rich... any of these article marketing, seo and twitter promotion stuff is just too damn slow.

webfighter · 04-12-2010, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanEagle

Buying traffic is really the only way to get rich... any of these article marketing, seo and twitter promotion stuff is just too damn slow.

Right,
i posted this several times, article writing is really a long process, and if articles are not well written , they are of no use either.

Murderface · 04-12-2010, 01:38 PM

Yes, regarding the OP title: [PPC and CPA - Are They Compatible?]

Not only are they compatible, but they are recommended if you want to see big numbers, and quickly.

In fact, my main focus at this point in time, is to focus on PPC-to-CPA marketing. It is my goal to see a healthy 5-figure/month income, and I know I can achieve this by way of PPC->CPA - be it through media buys or traditional PPC.

Good luck, everyone.
-M

Affiliit · 04-12-2010, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanEagle

Buying traffic is really the only way to get rich... any of these article marketing, seo and twitter promotion stuff is just too damn slow.

I'm actually very intrigued to know how much the top SEO'ers make

Michael Hastings · 04-12-2010, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanEagle

Buying traffic is really the only way to get rich... any of these article marketing, seo and twitter promotion stuff is just too damn slow.

I agree Ryan, promting it yourself involves alot of time and money investing, not to mention a wide variety of tools. Plus not only that but you get a lot more targeted visitors compared to using ppc. Where do you buy traffic from?

Kenster · 04-13-2010, 06:33 AM

PPC can be the most laser targeted form of advertising around if you do it right. If somebody does a search for DUI Attorney Princeton, NJ...how can you find a more targeted traffic source than that if you are a DUI law firm in the Princeton area. The same can be applied to CPA.

The problem is that when you do PPC and laser target your keywords, that means less traffic. This means you must A. find a crapload of laser targeted keywords and work with scale of B. start making your keywords more general and less targeted but get more traffic.

There are all kinds of strategies with PPC. Spy on your competitors and you will see exactly this. Some people are bidding on pretty general keywords but they must be converting if they are sticking with them for so long. Others just narrow in on laser targeted terms.

As per free traffic, the definition of RICH is relative. Am I rich? To some yes, to others no way. Are you rich? To some yes, to others no way. People are making good money with free traffic lie articles or video. Whether good money is "rich" to you is relative. In terms of SEO, people do huge huge numbers wih purely organic traffic.

My half a cent

esr · 04-13-2010, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kristikristo

By the way, what Affiliate Network were you accepted?

I was accepted to Affiliate.com and MaxBounty. I applied to a few more, but was denied. I had no idea it was so hard to get accepted, but I guess I can see why. Must be a lot of cheating and scamming with CPA.

SeanSupplee · 04-13-2010, 10:33 AM

you will have to read up each CPA's terms many offers have different terms you have to accept before being able to promote the product. I do have a few running on PPC at the moment.

The tactic I am using at this time is making a conversion within the amount I earn from the offer. If I make $2 on the offer then I am only paying $2 on adwords to get that conversion otherwise I drop it.

But another tactic I have found that has ween working well is creating your own landing page with an opt in form. This builds my list and produces sales. Can't beat that double edge sword right there.

Affiliit · 04-13-2010, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by esr

I was accepted to Affiliate.com and MaxBounty. I applied to a few more, but was denied. I had no idea it was so hard to get accepted, but I guess I can see why. Must be a lot of cheating and scamming with CPA.

There are a fair bit of fraudsters and scammers, you can always call them up to appeal the decision

04-08-2010, 12:03 AM	#1
esr HyperActive Warrior Join Date: May 2008 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 408 Thanks: 21 Thanked 26 Times in 24 Posts Social Networking	PPC and CPA - Are They Compatible? I've just spent an hour searching Adwords for an answer to my question and found nothing but the same question by other users. I am just getting started with CPA offers. I was FINALLY approved. Anyway, all I want to know is this: I choose to promote offer X. Can I set up a domain, OfferX, set up a 301 redirect to the offer page, and advertise it on Adwords with the original domain? Adwords Ad OfferX >>>>>>> www.offersite.com/myuniqueID Does Adwords allow this?

04-08-2010, 01:12 AM	#2
Michael Hastings HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 106 Thanks: 5 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: PPC and CPA - Are They Compatible? As far as I know, this is allowed. I have read that if done right, PPC and CPA are very lucrative.
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indexphp Custom Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 837 Thanks: 3 Thanked 139 Times in 92 Posts	Re: PPC and CPA - Are They Compatible? Don't listen to the guy above me. If he has ever used Adwords, he would know that the display URL in your ad must be the same domain that your redirect/affiliate link resolves to. Just put in the merchant URL and direct link with youre affiliate link. Since youre talking about doing PPC, you should use Prosper202, so you can track ROI by keyword and adcopy (important!)

04-08-2010, 06:33 AM	#6
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,111 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 672 Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts	Re: PPC and CPA - Are They Compatible? Why not try building your own landing page on the domain you bought, that will be your destination and that will help you achieve much better quality score. Always keep in the back of your mind that the Google guys (and others) and smart. If you find a way around a rule, it will normally be short lived.
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blarbie Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 48 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: PPC and CPA - Are They Compatible? is the content network in google better for cpa than the search ppc ads ? and if so text ppc or images ?

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Kristikristo Affiliate Markter Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Tirane,Albania Posts: 2 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: PPC and CPA - Are They Compatible? On the domain just build a landing page. Good landing page will get a good score from google, and if you get a good score, it means that you can pay lower for a specific keyword. So my advice is to build a landing page. By the way, what Affiliate Network were you accepted?
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04-12-2010, 02:48 AM	#13
Murderface Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 54 Thanks: 13 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	Re: PPC and CPA - Are They Compatible? esr- I have to agree with kenster regarding LP's (i.e. just look at your competition). Not only can you get an idea on which keywords your competitors are using, you can plainly see how your competition is writing their ads, writing their copy and their call-to-action etc. etc. This does not mean that you should copy them word-for-word, but you can use them as a guide. There is even software available that will help you 'spy' on your competitors. I mean, the campaigns are right there - just search for your keywords in google and take a look at the ads that are displayed. Click on some of the ad links and visit their website. You may even find another affiliate that is promoting the same offer as you. Obviously, this can lead to bidding wars, but you get the just of it. The point is, everything that you are wanting to do, is probably being done already. Just look at what other people are doing, mix it up and see what works. Good luck and take care, -M

04-12-2010, 03:29 AM	#14
Michael Hastings HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 106 Thanks: 5 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: PPC and CPA - Are They Compatible? Wait someone correct me if I'm wrong but you can't ppc and redirect to your affiliate link? Or I-frame it so they see your domain name and not aff link? I thought this was allowed?
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04-12-2010, 01:38 PM	#19
Murderface Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 54 Thanks: 13 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	Re: PPC and CPA - Are They Compatible? Yes, regarding the OP title: [PPC and CPA - Are They Compatible?] Not only are they compatible, but they are recommended if you want to see big numbers, and quickly. In fact, my main focus at this point in time, is to focus on PPC-to-CPA marketing. It is my goal to see a healthy 5-figure/month income, and I know I can achieve this by way of PPC->CPA - be it through media buys or traditional PPC. Good luck, everyone. -M

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Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,111 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 672 Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts	Re: PPC and CPA - Are They Compatible? PPC can be the most laser targeted form of advertising around if you do it right. If somebody does a search for DUI Attorney Princeton, NJ...how can you find a more targeted traffic source than that if you are a DUI law firm in the Princeton area. The same can be applied to CPA. The problem is that when you do PPC and laser target your keywords, that means less traffic. This means you must A. find a crapload of laser targeted keywords and work with scale of B. start making your keywords more general and less targeted but get more traffic. There are all kinds of strategies with PPC. Spy on your competitors and you will see exactly this. Some people are bidding on pretty general keywords but they must be converting if they are sticking with them for so long. Others just narrow in on laser targeted terms. As per free traffic, the definition of RICH is relative. Am I rich? To some yes, to others no way. Are you rich? To some yes, to others no way. People are making good money with free traffic lie articles or video. Whether good money is "rich" to you is relative. In terms of SEO, people do huge huge numbers wih purely organic traffic. My half a cent
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