My First PPV campaign

jurek54 · 05-15-2010, 09:17 AM

It is my first campaign with cpa offer .
It's second day of my campaign for "dating service".I decided to test it using DirectCPV service.Direct link to advertiser page.
Day one : target -70 domain ,$20/day ,fix bid -0.02.
Result - 1004 clicks , action -0.
Best : 1. aaa.com -288 clicks, 2.bbb.com- 184.
My actions : cut to 36 target domain, raise bid on most "good" targets which moved me to 1 or 2 position.
Day two : 36 targeted domain ,$20/day , median bid - $0.036 .
Results : only 105 new clicks !

Best : 1.aaa.com - plus 35 clicks , bbb.com -plus 6 ,3.ccc.com- plus 37 clicks.
What I'm doing wrong ? What I can do to change it ?

Jurek

harro1 · 05-15-2010, 10:31 AM

was your campaign targeted enough?

TimScott · 05-15-2010, 01:00 PM

sounds like either your targeting is off, of the offer is no good. Keep in mind, that diff dating sites target diff demo's, so you might be targetting a younger demo, with an offer that only converts for young adults. Also are you rotating offers, or just using one? You should rotate at least 3 diff offers, when your testing things out, because you never know what will work and what won't

jurek54 · 05-15-2010, 01:03 PM

Harro1,
yes, I agree ,that can be one of reasons ,mainly for not getting leads after clicks. My biggest concern tough is almost 90% decline in clicks on second day.I can agree for 40-50%down (same cap on budget ,almost 90% more cpc) but not so much.
Thanks for your comment .

jurek54 · 05-15-2010, 01:10 PM

Tim,
thanks.I'm pretty sure that demo is ok for that offer.I check almost all of targets.
Yes ,I fully agree that rotating offers can give me better results. The thing is ,I do not know how to do that (yet).I'm totally "fresh" in that but I learn day after day, and besides , I can see that there are people who are willing to help.That is the most important. So, thank you Tim

mtmjohn · 05-15-2010, 11:17 PM

Split test different offers

mpbiz · 05-15-2010, 11:39 PM

cool dude thats awesome

Cash37 · 05-16-2010, 01:19 AM

What kind of offer is it?

jurek54 · 05-16-2010, 07:50 AM

Dating service , email confirmation ,free sign up.

Affiliit · 05-16-2010, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jurek54

It is my first campaign with cpa offer .
It's second day of my campaign for "dating service".I decided to test it using Adbrite service.Direct link to advertiser page.
Day one : target -70 domain ,$20/day ,fix bid -0.02.
Result - 1004 clicks , action -0.
Best : 1. aaa.com -288 clicks, 2.bbb.com- 184.
My actions : cut to 36 target domain, raise bid on most "good" targets which moved me to 1 or 2 position.
Day two : 36 targeted domain ,$20/day , median bid - $0.036 .
Results : only 105 new clicks !

Best : 1.aaa.com - plus 35 clicks , bbb.com -plus 6 ,3.ccc.com- plus 37 clicks.
What I'm doing wrong ? What I can do to change it ?

Jurek

Dating on PPV is very difficult, you need to be out of the box to get it to work properly

jurek54 · 05-16-2010, 08:30 AM

You are right Affiliit.My target url's are 90% from that verical.I put that campaign on hold and start with another one (dating too) but that time with url's and keywords.
But in regards to my first offer what surprised me and left without a clue is dramatic drop in "clicks" even I raise my bid .

harro1 · 05-16-2010, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jurek54

You are right Affiliit.My target url's are 90% from that verical.I put that campaign on hold and start with another one (dating too) but that time with url's and keywords.
But in regards to my first offer what surprised me and left without a clue is dramatic drop in "clicks" even I raise my bid .

Can you tell which ppv network is that?

jurek54 · 05-16-2010, 10:15 AM

There is a mistake in my starting post. I'm using AdBrite for banner placement.For that campaign its DirectCPV.

Phobos · 05-16-2010, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jurek54

There is a mistake in my starting post. I'm using AdBrite for banner placement.For that campaign its DirectCPV.

The results in your first post are for AdBrite or for DirectCPV?
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jurek54 · 05-16-2010, 03:16 PM

Direct CPV .

MIB Mastermind · 05-16-2010, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtmjohn

Split test different offers

Like they said, split test.

EdwardDennis · 05-16-2010, 03:48 PM

What kind of dating offer are your campaign? Black dating, Christian, etc?

ChrisBa · 05-16-2010, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Affiliit

Dating on PPV is very difficult, you need to be out of the box to get it to work properly

I couldn't agree more, generally everyone's first impulse is to target other dating sites - this generally does not work well!

Like Affiliit said - get out of the box!

jurek54 · 05-16-2010, 09:09 PM

Once again, I agree with that opinion, that is why I stopped that campaign and spent Sunday looking how to get out of the box

EdwardDennis · 05-16-2010, 11:53 PM

Are you targeting general URLs? Like eharmony, plentyofish, etc? You need to dig deeper into those URLs. I know it is very time consuming, but it's worth it.

stevenjames · 05-17-2010, 08:09 AM

i myself would stay far far away from adbrite

webcosmo · 05-17-2010, 08:12 AM

my personal experience with adbrite is very bitter. even though you mention your targeting, they send you wring kind of traffic!

i rather find adwords better use of money.

jurek54 · 05-17-2010, 09:17 AM

Stats provided in my initial post are from DirectCPV.Like I said,I put that campaign on hold.Yesterday started another on (dating too),with some general url ,but not so well visited (got 40 clicks and 0 leads).Another 10 bucks is on same offer but with "keywords".With my bid for kw ,mostly I'm on 1-3 position.Results : 0 clicks ,0 on dream side

.
AdBrite ,that's another story. Waiting for approval of my first campaign from 05/14.
Any advice about better choice like AdBrite ?

harro1 · 05-17-2010, 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jurek54

Stats provided in my initial post are from DirectCPV.Like I said,I put that campaign on hold.Yesterday started another on (dating too),with some general url ,but not so well visited (got 40 clicks and 0 leads).Another 10 bucks is on same offer but with "keywords".With my bid for kw ,mostly I'm on 1-3 position.Results : 0 clicks ,0 on dream side

.
AdBrite ,that's another story. Waiting for approval of my first campaign from 05/14.
Any advice about better choice like AdBrite ?

adready.com
adperium.com
adbrite.com
adtoll.com
bidvertiser.com
7search.com
buysellads.com

these are the few you can try and find out which one is better for you,

jurek54 · 05-17-2010, 10:09 AM

Thanks Harro1 ,will try.

JDE · 05-18-2010, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevenjames

i myself would stay far far away from adbrite

I was referred to Adbrite just today by someone on WF that I trust. Can you tell me what problems you had with them, and what results you got, if any.

Thanks

jurek54 · 05-20-2010, 08:00 AM

Yesterday I cancel my account with them.Long time to waith for campaign approval,low quality of traffic (but that could be my fault too).Just try and its very possible that your experience will be much ,much better. Good luck !

05-15-2010, 09:17 AM	#1
jurek54 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New York Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	My First PPV campaign It is my first campaign with cpa offer . It's second day of my campaign for "dating service".I decided to test it using DirectCPV service.Direct link to advertiser page. Day one : target -70 domain ,$20/day ,fix bid -0.02. Result - 1004 clicks , action -0. Best : 1. aaa.com -288 clicks, 2.bbb.com- 184. My actions : cut to 36 target domain, raise bid on most "good" targets which moved me to 1 or 2 position. Day two : 36 targeted domain ,$20/day , median bid - $0.036 . Results : only 105 new clicks ! Best : 1.aaa.com - plus 35 clicks , bbb.com -plus 6 ,3.ccc.com- plus 37 clicks. What I'm doing wrong ? What I can do to change it ? Jurek

05-15-2010, 10:31 AM	#2
harro1 Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 736 Thanks: 9 Thanked 38 Times in 37 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign was your campaign targeted enough?

05-15-2010, 01:00 PM	#3
TimScott Hot Dogg Struttin Floozy Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Oregon Posts: 236 Thanks: 44 Thanked 17 Times in 16 Posts Social Networking	Re: My First PPV campaign sounds like either your targeting is off, of the offer is no good. Keep in mind, that diff dating sites target diff demo's, so you might be targetting a younger demo, with an offer that only converts for young adults. Also are you rotating offers, or just using one? You should rotate at least 3 diff offers, when your testing things out, because you never know what will work and what won't
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05-15-2010, 01:03 PM	#4
jurek54 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New York Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign Harro1, yes, I agree ,that can be one of reasons ,mainly for not getting leads after clicks. My biggest concern tough is almost 90% decline in clicks on second day.I can agree for 40-50%down (same cap on budget ,almost 90% more cpc) but not so much. Thanks for your comment .

05-15-2010, 01:10 PM	#5
jurek54 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New York Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign Tim, thanks.I'm pretty sure that demo is ok for that offer.I check almost all of targets. Yes ,I fully agree that rotating offers can give me better results. The thing is ,I do not know how to do that (yet).I'm totally "fresh" in that but I learn day after day, and besides , I can see that there are people who are willing to help.That is the most important. So, thank you Tim

05-15-2010, 11:17 PM	#6
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05-15-2010, 11:39 PM	#7
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05-16-2010, 01:19 AM	#8
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05-16-2010, 07:50 AM	#9
jurek54 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New York Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign Dating service , email confirmation ,free sign up.

05-16-2010, 08:30 AM	#11
jurek54 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New York Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign You are right Affiliit.My target url's are 90% from that verical.I put that campaign on hold and start with another one (dating too) but that time with url's and keywords. But in regards to my first offer what surprised me and left without a clue is dramatic drop in "clicks" even I raise my bid .

05-16-2010, 10:15 AM	#13
jurek54 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New York Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign There is a mistake in my starting post. I'm using AdBrite for banner placement.For that campaign its DirectCPV.

05-16-2010, 03:16 PM	#15
jurek54 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New York Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign Direct CPV .

05-16-2010, 03:48 PM	#17
EdwardDennis HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 445 Thanks: 19 Thanked 58 Times in 46 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign What kind of dating offer are your campaign? Black dating, Christian, etc?

05-16-2010, 09:09 PM	#19
jurek54 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New York Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign Once again, I agree with that opinion, that is why I stopped that campaign and spent Sunday looking how to get out of the box

05-16-2010, 11:53 PM	#20
EdwardDennis HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 445 Thanks: 19 Thanked 58 Times in 46 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign Are you targeting general URLs? Like eharmony, plentyofish, etc? You need to dig deeper into those URLs. I know it is very time consuming, but it's worth it.

05-17-2010, 08:09 AM	#21
stevenjames Warrior Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Home Office, Anywhere, USA Posts: 14 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign i myself would stay far far away from adbrite

05-17-2010, 08:12 AM	#22
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05-17-2010, 09:17 AM	#23
jurek54 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New York Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign Stats provided in my initial post are from DirectCPV.Like I said,I put that campaign on hold.Yesterday started another on (dating too),with some general url ,but not so well visited (got 40 clicks and 0 leads).Another 10 bucks is on same offer but with "keywords".With my bid for kw ,mostly I'm on 1-3 position.Results : 0 clicks ,0 on dream side. AdBrite ,that's another story. Waiting for approval of my first campaign from 05/14. Any advice about better choice like AdBrite ?

05-17-2010, 10:09 AM	#25
jurek54 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New York Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign Thanks Harro1 ,will try.

05-20-2010, 08:00 AM	#27
jurek54 Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: New York Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: My First PPV campaign Yesterday I cancel my account with them.Long time to waith for campaign approval,low quality of traffic (but that could be my fault too).Just try and its very possible that your experience will be much ,much better. Good luck !