CPA is filled with Dirt Bags

Scott Ames · 05-15-2010, 02:51 PM

It seems to me CPA is filled with Dirt Bags screwing over each other and customers.

That's the impression I get. Perhaps the majority of CPA stuff is legit, but the whole area seems more shady than other areas. Perhaps the potential big money attracts all the scum.

You have questionable CPA offers that get the customer to commit to a hidden continuity program or cram offer upon offer down their throat. There are a lot of questionable offers out there.

You have networks not tracking commissions correctly and looking the other way when affiliates violate TOS. Didn't you ever wonder how these spammers send out millions of emails and yet keep their fat commissions?

You have affiliates filling out their own forms, paying people to fill out offers, and advertising using methods that violate the TOS such as spam.

What prompted this post is that I am selling some tickets on Craigslist that I no longer need. Hours after I posted the ad I got a response...."Still available?" Sure I reply.. only to be greeted with an autoreply touting Google Cash.

I went nuclear. That just pissed me off. I hope it wasn't you because you are now in hot water with everyone I could find that you are using.

Cash37 · 05-15-2010, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Ames

It seems to me CPA is filled with Dirt Bags screwing over each other and customers.

That's the impression I get. Perhaps the majority of CPA stuff is legit, but the whole area seems more shady than other areas. Perhaps the potential big money attracts all the scum.

You have questionable CPA offers that get the customer to commit to a hidden continuity program or cram offer upon offer down their throat. There are a lot of questionable offers out there.

You have networks not tracking commissions correctly and looking the other way when affiliates violate TOS. Didn't you ever wonder how these spammers send out millions of emails and yet keep their fat commissions?

You have affiliates filling out their own forms, paying people to fill out offers, and advertising using methods that violate the TOS such as spam.

What prompted this post is that I am selling some tickets on Craigslist that I no longer need. Hours after I posted the ad I got a response...."Still available?" Sure I reply.. only to be greeted with an autoreply touting Google Cash.

I went nuclear. That just pissed me off. I hope it wasn't you because you are now in hot water with everyone I could find that you are using.

Like you said, it's likely their CPA network won't even care. Spend your energy on positive things!

Chris Worner · 05-15-2010, 03:28 PM

So....wanna hug?

Murderface · 05-15-2010, 03:29 PM

That is some funny stuff...went 'nuclear' over Google Cash auto-reply. Sorry, man, but that made me laugh.

Yes, it is quite unfortunate. It is the nature of the beast, I suppose.
I just hope that these offers don't get so bad that they become notoriously 'scammy'.

-M

coluden · 05-15-2010, 03:31 PM

Wow! I can see you are pretty upset. Rightly so. I for one, have had enough of these creeps who spam, lie, cheat, and hide their dirty deeds to boot. I don't think these people are restricted to CPA neighborhoods but it sure seems to attract them.

coluden

Lou Diamond · 05-15-2010, 08:23 PM

Hello,
Scott you have not even scratched the surface of the crazy goings on with cpa, the more you learn about it the less you want to be involved with it.

Whosyou · 05-15-2010, 09:03 PM

Hey Lou,

Do you fancy expanding on your post? this could turn out to be a very interesting thread.

BH_Winchester · 05-15-2010, 09:17 PM

Hey we aren't all bad - just innovative. There are some of us who don't cram the things down your throat but rather subliminally suggest them to you

sometimes we play on the tricky end of things but at the end of the day some of us are tricky but fair; and rather nice individuals if I do say so myself!

Cheers,
Bruce

Kenster · 05-15-2010, 09:19 PM

The thing about CPA which is great is that there are a million different ways to make money within the CPA industry.

If you are the kind of the person who is a 100% whitehat, 100% ethical marketer, then there are plenty of phenomenal offers out there that you can promote in ways that are completely legit.

On the other side of the spectrum, there is some pretty nasty stuff going on.

So when getting into CPA, its really a good idea to think about who you are as a person and how strong your moral fiber is, and then pick a CPA marketing path that fits that. Obviously when it comes to sales and marketing anywhere in the world, offline or online, there is a huge gray area when it comes to ethics. In addition, everybody has their own ethical comfort level.

So, when it comes to CPA, yes there are people and strategies that are towards the black end of the spectrum, but its important to remember that one can promote CPA completely 100% in the white!

williamrs · 05-16-2010, 01:09 AM

The CPA industry has plenty of good and legit offers, so it's 100% up to you. Personally, I don't promote scams and things that have the sole purpose of stealing people's money, simply because I was a victim of one of these offers in the BizOpp niche when I was just starting. However, I have been doing very well with CPA in the last few months and working only with decent offers is not a problem for me.

William

Lou Diamond · 05-16-2010, 08:26 AM

Hello,
the thing about cpa and whitehat marketing is fine, but once you see some sales and some money there is the darkside that calls you and that force can be very powerful.
This post can turn into a episode of Star Wars.
Cpa marketing has to be constantly monitored there is no set it and forget it in this industry.

KC-Coop · 05-16-2010, 10:29 AM

There's plenty of completely legitimate offers and affiliates in the CPA industry. You can't just blanket blame and entire industry based on a portion of the people who are in it.

What's wrong with an auto insurance lead gen? Health insurance? Game downloads? Dating? And lots more. Plenty of legit offers - and plenty of legit ways to promote them.

And really - the rebills have been cleaned up at least somewhat. The billing terms are there - it's up to the customers to read them. The rebills that do not cancel your order when you call are the ones that brought that industry down.

Freeman77 · 05-16-2010, 11:59 AM

It's true that there is a lot of CPA-related stuff that preys on your average internet user. Just the other day I had to rid my girlfriend's computer of adware that she unintentionally downloaded.

Let's face it -- most of the adware that makes PPV possible isn't an intentional download. And who really wants to pay 10 bucks a month for a cellphone ringtone service?

Still, it's a legitimate business model, and it's not all a bunch of dirtbags.

Kenster · 05-16-2010, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lou Diamond

Hello,
the thing about cpa and whitehat marketing is fine, but once you see some sales and some money there is the darkside that calls you and that force can be very powerful.
This post can turn into a episode of Star Wars.
Cpa marketing has to be constantly monitored there is no set it and forget it in this industry.

This is 100% true, that is the funny thing I have noticed about money. When it comes down to money, people do things out of character, but character is something we control so we can opt to stay down ethical street if we want.

This isn't just CPA, there are many things in life where we can screw people over at times, but integrity is important than a dollar amount.

Kenster · 05-16-2010, 02:10 PM

And as per the title of this thread, I think its misleading as CPA is not filled with dirtbags. There are dirtbags in this industry but there are plenty of ethical marketers in the industry and particularly on this forum!

CPA is a phenomenal business model for the consumer, the seller, the affiliate and all middlemen. Yes, there is a dark side of the industry, but the CPA business model is fantastic and has been and will be around for a long time

Freeman77 · 05-16-2010, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenster

This is 100% true, that is the funny thing I have noticed about money. When it comes down to money, people do things out of character, but character is something we control so we can opt to stay down ethical street if we want.

This isn't just CPA, there are many things in life where we can screw people over at times, but integrity is important than a dollar amount.

Well said.

I feel a little sheepish about a couple of my attempts to make money in the past via internet marketing. Now I stay on the straight and narrow.

I do, however, find that CPA marketing upsets the balance of my life a bit. For example, I have to stop checking my damn stats so often!

valdivz · 05-16-2010, 02:22 PM

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Kenster · 05-16-2010, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freeman77

Well said.

I feel a little sheepish about a couple of my attempts to make money in the past via internet marketing. Now I stay on the straight and narrow.

I do, however, find that CPA marketing upsets the balance of my life a bit. For example, I have to stop checking my damn stats so often!

I will admit that I have promoted a few offers I am not proud of but decided one day to only promote offers I wouldn't be embarrased to tell people I was promoting. Profits dropped right away because I shut off some pretty good campaigns, but I felt so much better about myself and my business. And now I am doing better than ever!

and yes, I can remember refreshing stat screens 10 times per minute when I first started....every day was like a roller coaster of ups (when I would refresh and see a conversion) and downs (when I would refresh and see costs go up and no conversions).

I think everybody has been there at one point!

bravo75 · 05-16-2010, 02:48 PM

Wherever there is money to be made, there will always be "Dirt bags". That goes for any type of marketing - be it CPA, car sales, real estate, online, offline...
Just the way it is

GeorgR. · 05-16-2010, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bravo75

Wherever there is money to be made, there will always be "Dirt bags". That goes for any type of marketing - be it CPA, car sales, real estate, online, offline...
Just the way it is

yes....but i agree with the OP *big time*. Most of it is (semi-)scam stuff which, to be honest, annoys me myself.

ChrisBa · 05-16-2010, 05:50 PM

Unfortunately every industry has there share of unpleasant people.

TJComer02 · 05-16-2010, 06:11 PM

Dude seriously. Quit taking steroids. They shrink your nuts and make you have a bad temper.

PPC-Coach · 05-16-2010, 08:45 PM

There are a lot of dirt bags in the CPA industry. People see money and all of the sudden the wiring in their heads goes squirely. They stop thinking about anything except making money and all common sense and common decency is thrown out the window.

I think it's magnified online though as people do things that they'd never do if they were a co-worker you'd have to look at every day. The internet tends to breed dirtbags more then anywhere else.

Murderface · 05-16-2010, 10:05 PM

Large corporations like google are just as bad...it's just, their greed isn't always as obvious. Their tactics aren't constantly being observed under a moral microscope. Their application is never denied because they make their own rules.
However, much of what they do is fueled by greed. All of their strict rules, quality guidelines and ever changing terms play a big part in keeping us little guys down...forcing/tempting us to do things that we wouldn't normally do. Banning our accounts/campaigns and forcing us to get out or pay up for advertising that isn't even performance based.

Now, I realize that this is not always the case, and that we should not make excuses for such questionable and immoral marketing practices...but...just remember that, while us little guys are fighting over the dirty floor scraps, it is companies like google that help keep us there while they spit out their leftover chicken bones down at our face while not even acknowledging our presence until we do something bad...like poop on their multi-billion dollar oriental rug or something...all while charging us rent to sleep on the ground with the bugs or whatever.

POW!

-M

Jeremy Kelsall · 05-16-2010, 11:09 PM

It's obvious that many people, including some in this thread don't understand CPA, and have a pretty narrow focus...

CPA isn't solely made up of slangin acai pills, and Google Cash Bizops. Sure, that is what you hear about - the idiots on craigslist etc - but, the majority of people that are actually making good money with CPA aren't spamming craigslist - I can assure you of that. More than likely you encountered some newbie that just picked up a copy of some morons WSO from 6 months ago, under the impression that he was going to make a couple G's a day spamming craigslist posters.

Murderface · 05-17-2010, 01:00 AM

Ha ha..for sure.
Do not take my last post seriously, by the way. Sometimes I like to mix it up because I'm awesome.

-M

EDIT: Seriously, I'm pretty awesome.

Kenster · 05-17-2010, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremy Kelsall

It's obvious that many people, including some in this thread don't understand CPA, and have a pretty narrow focus...

CPA isn't solely made up of slangin acai pills, and Google Cash Bizops. Sure, that is what you hear about - the idiots on craigslist etc - but, the majority of people that are actually making good money with CPA aren't spamming craigslist - I can assure you of that. More than likely you encountered some newbie that just picked up a copy of some morons WSO from 6 months ago, under the impression that he was going to make a couple G's a day spamming craigslist posters.

Agreed...its sometimes much easier to make a lot of money with the more legit CPA offers because they are more legit and thus the many traffic sources like your campaigns, making it easier.

The darker side almost always involves a cat and mouse game where your profits, emotions, everything is a huge roller coaster ride

RyanEagle · 05-17-2010, 05:19 PM

I got me a Bentley
I got me a Range Rover
I got rims older than me
I got a 10 karat pinky ring

My conscience is clear.

05-15-2010, 02:51 PM	#1
Scott Ames Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: West of Rockies Posts: 5,560 Thanks: 377 Thanked 673 Times in 329 Posts	CPA is filled with Dirt Bags It seems to me CPA is filled with Dirt Bags screwing over each other and customers. That's the impression I get. Perhaps the majority of CPA stuff is legit, but the whole area seems more shady than other areas. Perhaps the potential big money attracts all the scum. You have questionable CPA offers that get the customer to commit to a hidden continuity program or cram offer upon offer down their throat. There are a lot of questionable offers out there. You have networks not tracking commissions correctly and looking the other way when affiliates violate TOS. Didn't you ever wonder how these spammers send out millions of emails and yet keep their fat commissions? You have affiliates filling out their own forms, paying people to fill out offers, and advertising using methods that violate the TOS such as spam. What prompted this post is that I am selling some tickets on Craigslist that I no longer need. Hours after I posted the ad I got a response...."Still available?" Sure I reply.. only to be greeted with an autoreply touting Google Cash. I went nuclear. That just pissed me off. I hope it wasn't you because you are now in hot water with everyone I could find that you are using.
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05-15-2010, 03:28 PM	#3
Chris Worner Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,332 Thanks: 1,908 Thanked 652 Times in 344 Posts Contact Info	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags So....wanna hug?

05-15-2010, 03:29 PM	#4
Murderface Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 54 Thanks: 13 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags That is some funny stuff...went 'nuclear' over Google Cash auto-reply. Sorry, man, but that made me laugh. Yes, it is quite unfortunate. It is the nature of the beast, I suppose. I just hope that these offers don't get so bad that they become notoriously 'scammy'. -M

05-15-2010, 03:31 PM	#5
coluden HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Kingston, Posts: 206 Thanks: 12 Thanked 18 Times in 18 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags Wow! I can see you are pretty upset. Rightly so. I for one, have had enough of these creeps who spam, lie, cheat, and hide their dirty deeds to boot. I don't think these people are restricted to CPA neighborhoods but it sure seems to attract them. coluden
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05-15-2010, 08:23 PM	#6
Lou Diamond Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Long Island N.Y. Posts: 1,164 Thanks: 29 Thanked 192 Times in 101 Posts	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags Hello, Scott you have not even scratched the surface of the crazy goings on with cpa, the more you learn about it the less you want to be involved with it.
	Something new soon.

05-15-2010, 09:03 PM	#7
Whosyou Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: U.k Posts: 52 Thanks: 33 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags Hey Lou, Do you fancy expanding on your post? this could turn out to be a very interesting thread.

05-15-2010, 09:17 PM	#8
BH_Winchester Psychology Expert (MSc) War Room Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 119 Thanks: 12 Thanked 16 Times in 13 Posts	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags Hey we aren't all bad - just innovative. There are some of us who don't cram the things down your throat but rather subliminally suggest them to you sometimes we play on the tricky end of things but at the end of the day some of us are tricky but fair; and rather nice individuals if I do say so myself! Cheers, Bruce

05-15-2010, 09:19 PM	#9
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,111 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 672 Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags The thing about CPA which is great is that there are a million different ways to make money within the CPA industry. If you are the kind of the person who is a 100% whitehat, 100% ethical marketer, then there are plenty of phenomenal offers out there that you can promote in ways that are completely legit. On the other side of the spectrum, there is some pretty nasty stuff going on. So when getting into CPA, its really a good idea to think about who you are as a person and how strong your moral fiber is, and then pick a CPA marketing path that fits that. Obviously when it comes to sales and marketing anywhere in the world, offline or online, there is a huge gray area when it comes to ethics. In addition, everybody has their own ethical comfort level. So, when it comes to CPA, yes there are people and strategies that are towards the black end of the spectrum, but its important to remember that one can promote CPA completely 100% in the white!
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05-16-2010, 08:26 AM	#11
Lou Diamond Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Long Island N.Y. Posts: 1,164 Thanks: 29 Thanked 192 Times in 101 Posts	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags Hello, the thing about cpa and whitehat marketing is fine, but once you see some sales and some money there is the darkside that calls you and that force can be very powerful. This post can turn into a episode of Star Wars. Cpa marketing has to be constantly monitored there is no set it and forget it in this industry.
	Something new soon.

05-16-2010, 10:29 AM	#12
KC-Coop Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 523 Thanks: 2 Thanked 62 Times in 55 Posts Contact Info	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags There's plenty of completely legitimate offers and affiliates in the CPA industry. You can't just blanket blame and entire industry based on a portion of the people who are in it. What's wrong with an auto insurance lead gen? Health insurance? Game downloads? Dating? And lots more. Plenty of legit offers - and plenty of legit ways to promote them. And really - the rebills have been cleaned up at least somewhat. The billing terms are there - it's up to the customers to read them. The rebills that do not cancel your order when you call are the ones that brought that industry down.
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05-16-2010, 11:59 AM	#13
Freeman77 IM GENIUS War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 522 Thanks: 17 Thanked 51 Times in 37 Posts	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags It's true that there is a lot of CPA-related stuff that preys on your average internet user. Just the other day I had to rid my girlfriend's computer of adware that she unintentionally downloaded. Let's face it -- most of the adware that makes PPV possible isn't an intentional download. And who really wants to pay 10 bucks a month for a cellphone ringtone service? Still, it's a legitimate business model, and it's not all a bunch of dirtbags.

05-16-2010, 02:10 PM	#15
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,111 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 672 Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags And as per the title of this thread, I think its misleading as CPA is not filled with dirtbags. There are dirtbags in this industry but there are plenty of ethical marketers in the industry and particularly on this forum! CPA is a phenomenal business model for the consumer, the seller, the affiliate and all middlemen. Yes, there is a dark side of the industry, but the CPA business model is fantastic and has been and will be around for a long time
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bravo75 Advanced Warrior Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: From Liverpool, UK Living on the Costa Blanca & Amsterdam, NL Posts: 992 Thanks: 333 Thanked 379 Times in 257 Posts	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags Wherever there is money to be made, there will always be "Dirt bags". That goes for any type of marketing - be it CPA, car sales, real estate, online, offline... Just the way it is
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05-16-2010, 05:50 PM	#21
ChrisBa Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,125 Thanks: 10 Thanked 507 Times in 401 Posts Social Networking	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags Unfortunately every industry has there share of unpleasant people.
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05-16-2010, 06:11 PM	#22
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05-16-2010, 08:45 PM	#23
PPC-Coach Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 2,545 Thanks: 44 Thanked 663 Times in 379 Posts	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags There are a lot of dirt bags in the CPA industry. People see money and all of the sudden the wiring in their heads goes squirely. They stop thinking about anything except making money and all common sense and common decency is thrown out the window. I think it's magnified online though as people do things that they'd never do if they were a co-worker you'd have to look at every day. The internet tends to breed dirtbags more then anywhere else.

05-16-2010, 10:05 PM	#24
Murderface Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 54 Thanks: 13 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags Large corporations like google are just as bad...it's just, their greed isn't always as obvious. Their tactics aren't constantly being observed under a moral microscope. Their application is never denied because they make their own rules. However, much of what they do is fueled by greed. All of their strict rules, quality guidelines and ever changing terms play a big part in keeping us little guys down...forcing/tempting us to do things that we wouldn't normally do. Banning our accounts/campaigns and forcing us to get out or pay up for advertising that isn't even performance based. Now, I realize that this is not always the case, and that we should not make excuses for such questionable and immoral marketing practices...but...just remember that, while us little guys are fighting over the dirty floor scraps, it is companies like google that help keep us there while they spit out their leftover chicken bones down at our face while not even acknowledging our presence until we do something bad...like poop on their multi-billion dollar oriental rug or something...all while charging us rent to sleep on the ground with the bugs or whatever. POW! -M

05-16-2010, 11:09 PM	#25
Jeremy Kelsall Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: , , USA. Posts: 6,796 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 1,066 Thanked 3,723 Times in 1,286 Posts	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags It's obvious that many people, including some in this thread don't understand CPA, and have a pretty narrow focus... CPA isn't solely made up of slangin acai pills, and Google Cash Bizops. Sure, that is what you hear about - the idiots on craigslist etc - but, the majority of people that are actually making good money with CPA aren't spamming craigslist - I can assure you of that. More than likely you encountered some newbie that just picked up a copy of some morons WSO from 6 months ago, under the impression that he was going to make a couple G's a day spamming craigslist posters.
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05-17-2010, 01:00 AM	#26
Murderface Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 54 Thanks: 13 Thanked 10 Times in 5 Posts	Re: CPA is filled with Dirt Bags Ha ha..for sure. Do not take my last post seriously, by the way. Sometimes I like to mix it up because I'm awesome. -M EDIT: Seriously, I'm pretty awesome.

05-17-2010, 05:19 PM	#28
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