If I Knew What I Know Now

Kenster · 06-24-2010, 07:16 PM

Besides being great lyrics to a lot of great songs, this is an extremely simple yet powerful concept.

Hopefully this thread can be incredibly beneficial for people starting with CPA.

For those people with any experience with CPA at all, if you could tell yourself then (as a newbie) what you know now...what one piece of advice would it be?

senate83 · 06-24-2010, 07:27 PM

In my very little experience with CPA so far I would say that just going for it and trying campaigns out is by far the most important thing. You can sit on here and read for years, but if you don't do anything, then what's the point. There are so many ways to implement a CPA program for little to no cost that there really is no reason not to go for it. If it wasn't for your Rags to Riches WSO Kenster I would probably still be one of those people lurking on here. Take action people.

Phobos · 06-24-2010, 07:41 PM

I subscribe to taking action. If you read the forums endlessly and sit around waiting for stuff to happen by itself you're never going to see CPA $$$ in your pockets.
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williamrs · 06-24-2010, 08:47 PM

FOCUS

Now I know that focusing on something and sticking at it is the only way to make money online. Once I figured it out and actually implemented this concept on my business I started seeing results immediately. If I could get back on time and give myself just one advice when I was just starting it would be: stop jumping from one system to another and put your focus on something and stick at it until you make some money.

Many newbies have already heard this before, I know that I'm not being very creative here. However, this is the most absolute truth in the IM world and I can't find a better way to say this.

The problem is that beginners use to read it and agree with it, but they never actually use it. Unfortunately, they will not spend more than one week on what they are doing now even knowing that it's impossible to make serious money online without focus.

Hopefully 100 people will read this post and 1 will do more than reading it and actually follow this advice. If it happens I'll be happy, because I'll have thought that person the most important lesson that someone can learn when it comes to internet marketing.

William

PPC-Coach · 06-24-2010, 09:13 PM

Damn only one piece of advice!?!?!

I would say diversify. Never ever rely on ONE income stream. It can and most likely WILL die out on you. Think of your successful offers as stocks in a stock portfolio. Some will outperform the market, some will match the market and others will tank. If you only had ONE, and it tanked, then you're back at square one everytime. Build a portfolio of winning campaigns in different niches and using different traffic sources.

excoder01 · 06-25-2010, 12:03 AM

Stop getting excited so quick!!!

Too many newbies fall for massive product launch hype - and whenever there's a new CPA course coming out or system, they think they're going to hit the jackpot. Notice, I said, they "think they're going to..." - not they are already hitting the "jackpot."

This cycle happen so often in IM almost every week.

1) IM guru hype up the latest and greatest
2) Tons of newbies drool over and already imagining their dream vacation, rich lifestyle before they even know what the system does!
3) Newbies buy the product only to realize it's rehashed stuff or never take action.
4) They blame the product, the guru, the IM industry, and the world.
5) They fall back again to the 'latest and greatest' hype information overload again.

Folks -- stop getting excited before you even tried the product. Yes, I know the excitement is all about anticipation, but when it comes with CPA or IM marketing, do not make decision based on your gut instinct. You are being rule by your emotion, not logical and analytical skills.

Take action first, test first, test, test, test, and then celebrate all you want when you got real solid proven results.

Ok, so my advice is stop falling for hype. Stop getting excited before you even try the system. Be excited and happy after the results.

Focus on the results and you'll be more happy!

cpa-money · 06-25-2010, 03:36 AM

not to waste my time on offer that doesnt convert.

JUST MOVE ON

to the next offers until you find something that works for you.

TE2 · 06-25-2010, 08:34 AM

"Take consistent daily action"

Actions have reactions. Focus, ideas, systems, etc... produce nothing without action. But action, even crappy action will have a result. Sometimes that result is poor. But even poor results have value. They tell you what not to do again. The second line of my signature says it all.

Regards.

John

Phobos · 06-25-2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TE2

Focus, ideas, systems, etc... produce nothing without action.
John

Exactly. This is probably the first thing that a newbie should hear.
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Phobos · 06-25-2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by TE2

Focus, ideas, systems, etc... produce nothing without action.
John

Exactly. This is probably the first thing that a newbie should hear.
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evarda · 06-25-2010, 12:12 PM

My one piece of advice is Just do it. Like nike says...Do not be afraid of CPA. It is a monster with big green teeth, but once you take a bit out of it, you see the big cash bucket on the inside. Rock On.

GahJanGah · 06-25-2010, 12:39 PM

Flog it up with acai berries about 1.5 years ago.

l23bc · 06-25-2010, 12:48 PM

Forget all the infomation overload online,Clear all your emails from marketers whom are in the same industry and just and focus,Focus,Focus, YOu know the type one week they email saying "hey this new treand in email marlketing is the way to make money or membership cpa sites is making cash ect" You know the emails i mean.

If you can read write and think outside the box you have it already made for cpa

Pick one thing and stick to that if it dont work go to step 2. Ignore everything else.

My 2 cents
andrew

cpabrainstormer · 06-25-2010, 01:15 PM

Hey Ken,

Great thread here! If I could go back to the beginning I would have to say that I probably wouldn't have purchased about 5 courses/guides that would have saved me close to $3k. But I suppose I do have to give those courses/guides SOME credit for getting me where I am today.

I just wish that I had understood how this whole industry works a little bit better. There's such an unbelievable wealth on knowledge right in front of us, that so few of us actually tap in to. I spent so much time trying the strategies/techniques that the courses were teaching, that I never took the time to "think outside the box" and pave my own way.

It finally clicked for me when I decided, "Ok, I've learned enough for now, the rest I'll pick up along the way. It's time to actually DO something!" And ever since then, let's just say that I've been A LOT happier

!

So to reiterate what everyone else has said here....If you are new, set aside some time to learn. But also, know when it's time to stop sitting back as a spectator and step up to the plate!

Best of Luck,

CPABrainstormer

RyanEagle · 06-26-2010, 04:47 PM

JUST DO IT

Stop reading the forums. Stop reading the ebooks. Get your damn credit card out and start losing money, that'll be the toughest (and quickest) way that you will actually learn.

Kenster · 06-26-2010, 05:23 PM

Lots of great ideas here! There are some important themes you are beginning to notive. Take Action, Dont be afraid to fail, stay focused and dont jump around, be careful with buying too many products or learning too much without actually implementing anything.

This is good stuff and I wish I knew all this when I started! It would have fast-tracked success for sure!

peter_act · 07-09-2010, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpabrainstormer

"Ok, I've learned enough for now"

CPABrainstormer

I like it! This should be in Ken's other post (Giving a one sentence advice to a newbie)

I'll print it out and put it above my monitor.

ivanadee · 07-10-2010, 02:00 AM

read every method (1 by 1).tried it.if failed, read next method. There are thousand CPA Methods and if we just collect in in our folder, there will be nothing happened

Affiliatebuddy · 07-10-2010, 06:23 AM

If someone can give them one fool proof idea ( even $10 a day after hard work).. and inspire a newbie to stick to idea, It will be awesome.

New entrants just go here and there.. wander.. lot of knowledge tries A idea at 10 am.....B idea at 10:20.... and so on.

Finding some fool proof idea... and then sticking to that is what a new entrant needs ( dont know what he/she wants).

Thanks
AB

ChrisBa · 07-10-2010, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RyanEagle

JUST DO IT

Stop reading the forums. Stop reading the ebooks. Get your damn credit card out and start losing money, that'll be the toughest (and quickest) way that you will actually learn.

I agree with this one, one of the biggest thing I've seen is people tend to over-think things, they think, think, think, over analyze, etc.

without action your not going to make a penny

PCLINE · 07-10-2010, 08:51 AM

It is funny how Kenster started this thread about CPA, without his Sig, only to add it later in his response, very sneaky marketing tactics. It is what I call preying on the unsuspecting noobs. You didn't start this thread to help anyone and u know that, aaaaarggggghhhhh!!!

Kenster · 07-10-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PCLINE

It is funny how Kenster started this thread about CPA, without his Sig, only to add it later in his response, very sneaky marketing tactics. It is what I call preying on the unsuspecting noobs. You didn't start this thread to help anyone and u know that, aaaaarggggghhhhh!!!

This is 100% not true and frankly, I'm not even sure how logic makes sense. There are many posts I make where my signature isn't there for some reason.

And FYI, good marketers don't 'prey'. That will get anybody nowhere in any kind of business.

But I will give you credit for being observant. Although I only had one post in the thread, I didnt even notice the difference myself. So kudos to that

melvinm · 07-10-2010, 07:19 PM

Interesting observation there PCCLINE, speaks volumes !

But on the other hand, the thread did add value in terms of others getting on board and sharing their views.

Kenster, appreciate you starting the thread irrespective of what the intention was.

Cheers
Melvin

Gi0dUdE · 07-10-2010, 07:49 PM

I am over thinking things and have been stuck on trying to find a niche with research and stuff for three days now. "My freakin head is banggin". Taking you guys advice to heart I'm gonna just jump into something and see how I do.

Two quick questions though. 1) Is it possible to get an offer page ranked, or do you always need to create a LP?

2) Organic, paid, or both? I'm leaning toward both.

peter_act · 07-11-2010, 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PCLINE

It is funny how Kenster started this thread about CPA, without his Sig, only to add it later in his response, very sneaky marketing tactics. It is what I call preying on the unsuspecting noobs. You didn't start this thread to help anyone and u know that, aaaaarggggghhhhh!!!

Since you're a new member here (February 2010) we'll give you some leniency.
After you've been here a while, you'll see that Ken is one of the real good guys on this forum, one of the first people I'd go to if I needed some advice.

thebrewer · 07-11-2010, 06:36 AM

All good stuff here. CPA can seem daunting at first and income can go up and down even on established websites that you have. I think that you just have to keep at it and just concentrate on your site(s) and not get distracted by the latest "instant money blue-print ATM's" courses that enter your inbox.

Once you have found a way to get people to your site play around with the look and different products and see what converts the most. If this all goes well then it can be a case of rinse and repeat in different niches or list building to make money expanding on a successful site.

Kenster · 07-11-2010, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Gi0dUdE

I am over thinking things and have been stuck on trying to find a niche with research and stuff for three days now. "My freakin head is banggin". Taking you guys advice to heart I'm gonna just jump into something and see how I do.

Two quick questions though. 1) Is it possible to get an offer page ranked, or do you always need to create a LP?

2) Organic, paid, or both? I'm leaning toward both.

Hi there

Yes, I think it would be much more productive to dive right in and just start plugging away, particularly when you are new. The main goal when you are new is to learn, not just to make money. As you learn, the money will come, but if you focus on the money and blind yourself to everything but the money, it wont come...you will jump around like a jumping bean and never get anywhere.

So, take action and learn by making mistakes.

Once you learn enough, then you can go back and do better diligence and examination of different niches you can tackle. ANd in truth, once you have learned enough, you can probably enter any niche and carve out a space for yourself.

So for now, focus on learning and dont get paralyzed on info analysis.

To your questions....you will need to rank your landing site and landing page, not the offer page. For certain traffic methods, you can direct link, but in terms of organically ranking, you will set up your web space and then do some SEO to it to.

At first I would start with FREE traffic. This doesnt necessarily mean organic SEO type stuff though, it just means non-paid traffic. Things like article marketing, video marketing, bum methods, offline, etc

Learn without killing your wallet. Remember the main focus for now is learning, not making $1,000,000 a day!

Quote:

Originally Posted by peter_act

Since you're a new member here (February 2010) we'll give you some leniency.
After you've been here a while, you'll see that Ken is one of the real good guys on this forum, one of the first people I'd go to if I needed some advice.

Thanks Peter, I am humbled by your support. Its easy for people (and rightfully so) to be skeptical of others...particularly in the internet world.

My strategy in any venture I am involved in is to give, give give. I truly believe that if you give enough, you will somewhere, sometime get even more than you gave. This means that sometimes you will be taken advantage of and get burned (which I have many times) but at the end of the day you walk away more successful and prosperous, personally and professionally.

Good luck CPAing all!

zenji · 07-11-2010, 12:08 PM

Pcline,
We don't need people like you here. Please do your research before jumping to conclusions!
Dennis

Quote:

Originally Posted by PCLINE

It is funny how Kenster started this thread about CPA, without his Sig, only to add it later in his response, very sneaky marketing tactics. It is what I call preying on the unsuspecting noobs. You didn't start this thread to help anyone and u know that, aaaaarggggghhhhh!!!

Gi0dUdE · 07-11-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenster

To your questions....you will need to rank your landing site and landing page, not the offer page. For certain traffic methods, you can direct link, but in terms of organically ranking, you will set up your web space and then do some SEO to it to.

Thanks for your reply.

1)Let's say I'm promoting 5 different offers, do I have to buy domains for all their landing pages? Are there free alternatives, or should I stick with buying?

[quote=Kenster;2328481]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenster

At first I would start with FREE traffic. This doesnt necessarily mean organic SEO type stuff though, it just means non-paid traffic. Things like article marketing, video marketing, bum methods, offline, etc

1)With non seo stuff, can the offer page be what's on my domain?
2)What's a good resource to read up on article marketing, video marketing, bum methods, offline and any other types of free traffic?
3)So if I'm understanding correctly, these are other methods of getting traffic other than being ranked?

Thanks
Gio

Kenster · 07-11-2010, 03:36 PM

[quote=Gi0dUdE;2329350]Thanks for your reply.

1)Let's say I'm promoting 5 different offers, do I have to buy domains for all their landing pages? Are there free alternatives, or should I stick with buying?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenster

1)With non seo stuff, can the offer page be what's on my domain?
2)What's a good resource to read up on article marketing, video marketing, bum methods, offline and any other types of free traffic?
3)So if I'm understanding correctly, these are other methods of getting traffic other than being ranked?

Thanks
Gio

Hey Gio...let me try and hit some of your points here...

You can promote multiple offers on one domain. When I started I would promote different offers on sub-domains of one domain, which would save money. Or you can just look for cheaper extensions like .info, but it really depends how you are promoting that will determine how important your extension and domain is. For example, if you are doing PPC, its more important to have a clean domain for each campaign than if you are doing bum methods.

As far as a good resource, this forum is great. There are also some great WSOs in the WSO section, but make sure you do your research to find one that fits you best and that has lots of feedback and history. In truth, most info in WSOs can be found for free elsewhere, but WSOs tend to consolidate information nicely and save a ton of time...in my opinion. This forum is free gold though!

Yep, traffic is the heart of any campaign. You need eyes on your offer to convert the offer into a commission. So any one of the ways you mention is just a way to get eyes on your offer. Some traffic is free, some is paid. Everybody will have their own style and preferences for traffic.

Enjoy buddy and good luck CPAing

Gi0dUdE · 07-11-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kenster

You can promote multiple offers on one domain. When I started I would promote different offers on sub-domains of one domain, which would save money. Or you can just look for cheaper extensions like .info, but it really depends how you are promoting that will determine how important your extension and domain is. For example, if you are doing PPC, its more important to have a clean domain for each campaign than if you are doing bum methods.

Wow thanks a lot bro. I didn't know that was even possible. I'm gonna look for how that's done. That's really gonna save me money. Thanks

Also I can't PM you because I don't have 50 posts on here yet. Is there any way around that? How can I contact you?

Thanks
Gio

Gi0dUdE · 07-11-2010, 08:39 PM

For a sub domain, is that done through my domain company(godaddy) or hosting company (host gator)?

totee · 07-11-2010, 09:08 PM

Good thread. I would say take it like a business and talk to your affiliate
manager alot.

Mário Gomes · 07-12-2010, 03:13 AM

I have to agree with Ryan, on "Get your damn credit card out and start losing money". When you are losing money, you focus and learn very quickly.

Also, I would say TEST things like a mad scientist, even if they don't make complete sense to you and avoid doing what every one else is doing.

Honestly I think these 3 pieces of advice are gold dust.

Mário Gomes · 07-12-2010, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenster

Hey Gio...let me try and hit some of your points here...

You can promote multiple offers on one domain. When I started I would promote different offers on sub-domains of one domain, which would save money. Or you can just look for cheaper extensions like .info, but it really depends how you are promoting that will determine how important your extension and domain is. For example, if you are doing PPC, its more important to have a clean domain for each campaign than if you are doing bum methods.

You can buy cheaper LTD's like .info, but I would absolutely not recommend that as .info's are normally associated with proxy's and 'shady' sites.

Black Haters use .info's because their sites get shut down a lot and .info's are cheaper to 'replace' than other LTD's, so it's more 'cost-effective' for them.

My advice to you is:

Buy 'generic' domain names related to the vertical you want to promote.

Let's say you wanted to promote Smiley Central. Instead of buying SmileyCentral.com (of course this one is obviously taken by the brand, it's just an example) you would buy Downloads.com.

With 'generic' domain names you are not limited to one offer, you can promote any offer from the Downloads vertical.

The way I would do it would be by setting up different sub-domains or folders for each offer.

Example of sub-domain: smileycentral.downloads.com
Example of folder: downloads.com/smileycentral

Also, this way is more "Google friendly" than having individual sites for each offer as Google likes big website and big website structures.

ChrisBa · 07-12-2010, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PCLINE

It is funny how Kenster started this thread about CPA, without his Sig, only to add it later in his response, very sneaky marketing tactics. It is what I call preying on the unsuspecting noobs. You didn't start this thread to help anyone and u know that, aaaaarggggghhhhh!!!

I've seen Kenster's posts and I know he isn't here just to rip people off or make money from them, he tends to legitimately try to help them out. Yes he advertises a few products in his sig, but you do not need to buy these for his help - he openly gives it.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if he's helping this much for free, imagine what his products are like? Probably pretty damn good.

I hope Ken would stick up with me too. I do the same thing, I try to help people and have links in my sig. However it's not like I am just here trying to make money off people, I beleive I am (at least attempting) legitimately helping people.

Kenster · 07-12-2010, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBa

I've seen Kenster's posts and I know he isn't here just to rip people off or make money from them, he tends to legitimately try to help them out. Yes he advertises a few products in his sig, but you do not need to buy these for his help - he openly gives it.

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that if he's helping this much for free, imagine what his products are like? Probably pretty damn good.

I hope Ken would stick up with me too. I do the same thing, I try to help people and have links in my sig. However it's not like I am just here trying to make money off people, I beleive I am (at least attempting) legitimately helping people.

People think I am crazy for checking in here daily but there are a few reasons I love being a Warrior...

1. I probably would have flopped on my face and may have never "made it" if it wasn't for a few Warriors here who pushed me in the right directions on a few pivotal occassions early in my career. I owe a lot of my success to this forum and try and give back when I can.

2. When I take breaks from work, I dont like to completely "tune out" so coming on here helps me take a break while still staying in the IM mindset.

3. OPPORTUNITY. Some of the best, wealthiest, smartest marketers out there roam this forum. There are tons of opportunities that pop up by being active and I can't begin to tell you how many ideas I have received from you guys. Ideas that are big money ideas. From a pm I got just a few weeks ago, it sparked an idea that I have been scaling up with great success and see even more potential if I continue to work at it. So, this is a two way street, and I am getting ideas just as much as I am giving help.

And lastly...

One of my main prongs of my business strategy is to stay active. Keep forward momentum. Sure, I can sit in my office and make a great living, but by keeping active, staying alert, and interacting with people in the industry, thats where new opportunties are born. I do plenty well but I have even higher goals.

Its a strategy that has served me well and I urge everybody to pursue as well.

Best of luck CPAing guys and gals

badboy_Nick · 07-12-2010, 07:43 AM

Hey

My piece of advice is this: If you want to make 5-figures every month, do what I do: FINANCE or TRAVEL lead generation in the UK. Bigger margins, bigger payouts and MUCH better than any sales type of stuff.

Any questions just let me know,
Nick

Kenster · 07-12-2010, 07:54 AM

If I knew THEN what I know NOW....

I would have started with free traffic generation methods instead of jumping right into PPC, then getting drained and reverting to free methods and then reverting back to PPC.

My advice....start free traffic, slowly play around with paid traffic, then you can get serious about paid traffic.

tobiasosllc · 07-12-2010, 09:07 AM

Honestly the only thing I wish I did differently was to not buy any guru junk products or wso's. No offense you Kenster or any other person here, but nothing you put in your products isn't something , I could find somewhere else for free. The best way to learn is to try it yourself, not buying garbage products which will provide no experience in the industry.

cpabrainstormer · 07-12-2010, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PCLINE

It is funny how Kenster started this thread about CPA, without his Sig, only to add it later in his response, very sneaky marketing tactics. It is what I call preying on the unsuspecting noobs. You didn't start this thread to help anyone and u know that, aaaaarggggghhhhh!!!

Unbelievable how some people who come to this forum are nothing but negative. I give you some SERIOUS credit Ken, for not flipping out on this person. You have a lot more self-control then most of us!

First of all, PCLINE, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I have only been on this forum now for a few months and I know the value that Kenster brings here. Honestly, this forum would not be as valuable to marketers of all experience levels, if it weren't for him being here.

He provides clear, concise, non-BS answers to any person who asks for his advice. Yes, we are all in this business to make money, so he promotes a product in his sig. It's not like the guy is throwing it in your face. If you want to buy the product, go head. If not, that's fine too. But before you go accusing someone of trying to "prey" on newbies, get all the information first.

Ken, we all appreciate your posts and your value to this community. Keep in coming!

Best of Luck,

CPABrainstormer

Kenster · 07-12-2010, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpabrainstormer

Unbelievable how some people who come to this forum are nothing but negative. I give you some SERIOUS credit Ken, for not flipping out on this person. You have a lot more self-control then most of us!

First of all, PCLINE, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I have only been on this forum now for a few months and I know the value that Kenster brings here. Honestly, this forum would not be as valuable to marketers of all experience levels, if it weren't for him being here.

He provides clear, concise, non-BS answers to any person who asks for his advice. Yes, we are all in this business to make money, so he promotes a product in his sig. It's not like the guy is throwing it in your face. If you want to buy the product, go head. If not, that's fine too. But before you go accusing someone of trying to "prey" on newbies, get all the information first.

Ken, we all appreciate your posts and your value to this community. Keep in coming!

Best of Luck,

CPABrainstormer

Thanks, I appreciate the support. I don't think any harm was meant so its not a biggie.

I'm not going to lie, "sticking around" is good for business...I have been presented with many business opportunities and met many successful warriors I wouldnt have met otherwise and come up with many great ideas from the other warriors here...thats where the real money is.

Further, the pms and emails I get from thankful warriors and customers who genuinely thank me and describe how their lives have now changed is a feeling that I cannot describe. Just earning $10 or $50 extra per day is life changing for so many people and its amazing being able to help.

If I could, I would clone myself so I can spend more time here helping others out, but unfortunately I have businesses to run and a life to live.

To every Warriors success in all your online and offline, personal and professional, endeavors.

andreblamads · 07-12-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PPC-Coach

Damn only one piece of advice!?!?!

I would say diversify. Never ever rely on ONE income stream. It can and most likely WILL die out on you. Think of your successful offers as stocks in a stock portfolio. Some will outperform the market, some will match the market and others will tank. If you only had ONE, and it tanked, then you're back at square one everytime. Build a portfolio of winning campaigns in different niches and using different traffic sources.

You can say that again, DIVERSIFY!

ChrisBa · 07-12-2010, 08:30 PM

Diversifying is needed, however there is balance, I find one of the biggest problems most people new to the industry make is they bounce around trying too many different things. IMO - pick 1 strategy/method - master it, then move on to another (slowly but steady diversifying)

ChadH · 07-12-2010, 08:43 PM

Build my own offerings sooner.

jamiedot · 07-12-2010, 09:43 PM

badboy nick: as a brit, are you focusing on UK cpa rather than incorporating USA offerings?

Kenster · 07-12-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBa

Diversifying is needed, however there is balance, I find one of the biggest problems most people new to the industry make is they bounce around trying too many different things. IMO - pick 1 strategy/method - master it, then move on to another (slowly but steady diversifying)

In my opinion, diversifying should be done after one is successful. The whole point of diversifying is to minimize risk and build a sustainable business platform.

Chris is right, focus on something and grow it. If you dont have this initial focus, you will jump around like a silly jumping bean from method to method and never earn anything. This jumping bean syndrome is what many newbs suffer from.

But yes, when you start seeing results, then is the time to really make sure your income is diversified.

For me personally, even if CPA ceases to exist altogther, I know me and my business will still be successful because I have diversified into other income streams and I am currently exploring many other non-CPA ventures. This is business 101, minimize risk.

Now, if the internet dies altogether, then I'm in trouble. But then again, if that happens, I have bigger issues to worry about

Okenyon · 07-13-2010, 04:37 PM

pick a niche that isnt saturated!

soboer · 09-30-2010, 01:53 PM

I would have started with building a list. I believe that building a list is the foundation of internet marketing.

InternetWriter · 09-30-2010, 02:13 PM

I think I was too young to give a **** lol. I just turned 15 when I started and didn't really focus much more then GPT. A few months later I was full time.

I think I would tell myself, stick to my first site I started. It would be #1 in ranking by now and raking in 20k min. a month.

06-24-2010, 07:27 PM	#2
senate83 Warrior Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA In my very little experience with CPA so far I would say that just going for it and trying campaigns out is by far the most important thing. You can sit on here and read for years, but if you don't do anything, then what's the point. There are so many ways to implement a CPA program for little to no cost that there really is no reason not to go for it. If it wasn't for your Rags to Riches WSO Kenster I would probably still be one of those people lurking on here. Take action people.

06-24-2010, 07:41 PM	#3
Phobos HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 304 Thanks: 34 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA I subscribe to taking action. If you read the forums endlessly and sit around waiting for stuff to happen by itself you're never going to see CPA $$$ in your pockets. ________ List Of Engines

06-24-2010, 08:47 PM	#4
williamrs Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,496 Thanks: 174 Thanked 1,159 Times in 614 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA FOCUS Now I know that focusing on something and sticking at it is the only way to make money online. Once I figured it out and actually implemented this concept on my business I started seeing results immediately. If I could get back on time and give myself just one advice when I was just starting it would be: stop jumping from one system to another and put your focus on something and stick at it until you make some money. Many newbies have already heard this before, I know that I'm not being very creative here. However, this is the most absolute truth in the IM world and I can't find a better way to say this. The problem is that beginners use to read it and agree with it, but they never actually use it. Unfortunately, they will not spend more than one week on what they are doing now even knowing that it's impossible to make serious money online without focus. Hopefully 100 people will read this post and 1 will do more than reading it and actually follow this advice. If it happens I'll be happy, because I'll have thought that person the most important lesson that someone can learn when it comes to internet marketing. William
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06-24-2010, 09:13 PM	#5
PPC-Coach Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 2,545 Thanks: 44 Thanked 663 Times in 379 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA Damn only one piece of advice!?!?! I would say diversify. Never ever rely on ONE income stream. It can and most likely WILL die out on you. Think of your successful offers as stocks in a stock portfolio. Some will outperform the market, some will match the market and others will tank. If you only had ONE, and it tanked, then you're back at square one everytime. Build a portfolio of winning campaigns in different niches and using different traffic sources.

06-25-2010, 12:03 AM	#6
excoder01 Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 616 Thanks: 19 Thanked 77 Times in 54 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA Stop getting excited so quick!!! Too many newbies fall for massive product launch hype - and whenever there's a new CPA course coming out or system, they think they're going to hit the jackpot. Notice, I said, they "think they're going to..." - not they are already hitting the "jackpot." This cycle happen so often in IM almost every week. 1) IM guru hype up the latest and greatest 2) Tons of newbies drool over and already imagining their dream vacation, rich lifestyle before they even know what the system does! 3) Newbies buy the product only to realize it's rehashed stuff or never take action. 4) They blame the product, the guru, the IM industry, and the world. 5) They fall back again to the 'latest and greatest' hype information overload again. Folks -- stop getting excited before you even tried the product. Yes, I know the excitement is all about anticipation, but when it comes with CPA or IM marketing, do not make decision based on your gut instinct. You are being rule by your emotion, not logical and analytical skills. Take action first, test first, test, test, test, and then celebrate all you want when you got real solid proven results. Ok, so my advice is stop falling for hype. Stop getting excited before you even try the system. Be excited and happy after the results. Focus on the results and you'll be more happy!
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06-24-2010, 07:16 PM	#1
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,111 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 672 Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts	If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA Besides being great lyrics to a lot of great songs, this is an extremely simple yet powerful concept. Hopefully this thread can be incredibly beneficial for people starting with CPA. For those people with any experience with CPA at all, if you could tell yourself then (as a newbie) what you know now...what one piece of advice would it be?

06-25-2010, 03:36 AM	#7
cpa-money cpa money king Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 131 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA not to waste my time on offer that doesnt convert. JUST MOVE ON to the next offers until you find something that works for you.
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06-25-2010, 08:34 AM	#8
TE2 Advanced Offline Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: St. Louis Area Posts: 901 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 180 Thanked 227 Times in 143 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA "Take consistent daily action" Actions have reactions. Focus, ideas, systems, etc... produce nothing without action. But action, even crappy action will have a result. Sometimes that result is poor. But even poor results have value. They tell you what not to do again. The second line of my signature says it all. Regards. John
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06-25-2010, 12:12 PM	#11
evarda Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: , , . Posts: 70 Thanks: 2 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA My one piece of advice is Just do it. Like nike says...Do not be afraid of CPA. It is a monster with big green teeth, but once you take a bit out of it, you see the big cash bucket on the inside. Rock On.

06-25-2010, 12:39 PM	#12
GahJanGah Gah Jan Gah! Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 1 Post	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA Flog it up with acai berries about 1.5 years ago.

06-25-2010, 12:48 PM	#13
l23bc Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: From Liverpool U.k But now in a small cottage in wicklow,Dublin, soon to be heading to miami, Posts: 1,491 Blog Entries: 9 Thanks: 97 Thanked 110 Times in 97 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA Forget all the infomation overload online,Clear all your emails from marketers whom are in the same industry and just and focus,Focus,Focus, YOu know the type one week they email saying "hey this new treand in email marlketing is the way to make money or membership cpa sites is making cash ect" You know the emails i mean. If you can read write and think outside the box you have it already made for cpa Pick one thing and stick to that if it dont work go to step 2. Ignore everything else. My 2 cents andrew
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06-25-2010, 01:15 PM	#14
cpabrainstormer Tim Van Dalsum War Room Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 94 Thanks: 1 Thanked 39 Times in 27 Posts Contact Info	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA Hey Ken, Great thread here! If I could go back to the beginning I would have to say that I probably wouldn't have purchased about 5 courses/guides that would have saved me close to $3k. But I suppose I do have to give those courses/guides SOME credit for getting me where I am today. I just wish that I had understood how this whole industry works a little bit better. There's such an unbelievable wealth on knowledge right in front of us, that so few of us actually tap in to. I spent so much time trying the strategies/techniques that the courses were teaching, that I never took the time to "think outside the box" and pave my own way. It finally clicked for me when I decided, "Ok, I've learned enough for now, the rest I'll pick up along the way. It's time to actually DO something!" And ever since then, let's just say that I've been A LOT happier ! So to reiterate what everyone else has said here....If you are new, set aside some time to learn. But also, know when it's time to stop sitting back as a spectator and step up to the plate! Best of Luck, CPABrainstormer
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06-26-2010, 04:47 PM	#15
RyanEagle I'll Make You Rich Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 693 Thanks: 7 Thanked 94 Times in 76 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA JUST DO IT Stop reading the forums. Stop reading the ebooks. Get your damn credit card out and start losing money, that'll be the toughest (and quickest) way that you will actually learn.
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06-26-2010, 05:23 PM	#16
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,111 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 672 Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA Lots of great ideas here! There are some important themes you are beginning to notive. Take Action, Dont be afraid to fail, stay focused and dont jump around, be careful with buying too many products or learning too much without actually implementing anything. This is good stuff and I wish I knew all this when I started! It would have fast-tracked success for sure!
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07-10-2010, 02:00 AM	#18
ivanadee HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 350 Thanks: 33 Thanked 38 Times in 28 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA read every method (1 by 1).tried it.if failed, read next method. There are thousand CPA Methods and if we just collect in in our folder, there will be nothing happened
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07-10-2010, 06:23 AM	#19
Affiliatebuddy HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 190 Thanks: 4 Thanked 7 Times in 7 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA If someone can give them one fool proof idea ( even $10 a day after hard work).. and inspire a newbie to stick to idea, It will be awesome. New entrants just go here and there.. wander.. lot of knowledge tries A idea at 10 am.....B idea at 10:20.... and so on. Finding some fool proof idea... and then sticking to that is what a new entrant needs ( dont know what he/she wants). Thanks AB
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07-10-2010, 08:51 AM	#21
PCLINE Warrior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA It is funny how Kenster started this thread about CPA, without his Sig, only to add it later in his response, very sneaky marketing tactics. It is what I call preying on the unsuspecting noobs. You didn't start this thread to help anyone and u know that, aaaaarggggghhhhh!!!

07-10-2010, 07:19 PM	#23
melvinm Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Posts: 299 Thanks: 39 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA Interesting observation there PCCLINE, speaks volumes ! But on the other hand, the thread did add value in terms of others getting on board and sharing their views. Kenster, appreciate you starting the thread irrespective of what the intention was. Cheers Melvin
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07-10-2010, 07:49 PM	#24
Gi0dUdE Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Contact Info	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA I am over thinking things and have been stuck on trying to find a niche with research and stuff for three days now. "My freakin head is banggin". Taking you guys advice to heart I'm gonna just jump into something and see how I do. Two quick questions though. 1) Is it possible to get an offer page ranked, or do you always need to create a LP? 2) Organic, paid, or both? I'm leaning toward both.

07-11-2010, 06:36 AM	#26
thebrewer Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: England Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Social Networking	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA All good stuff here. CPA can seem daunting at first and income can go up and down even on established websites that you have. I think that you just have to keep at it and just concentrate on your site(s) and not get distracted by the latest "instant money blue-print ATM's" courses that enter your inbox. Once you have found a way to get people to your site play around with the look and different products and see what converts the most. If this all goes well then it can be a case of rinse and repeat in different niches or list building to make money expanding on a successful site.

07-11-2010, 08:39 PM	#32
Gi0dUdE Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 18 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Contact Info	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA For a sub domain, is that done through my domain company(godaddy) or hosting company (host gator)?

07-11-2010, 09:08 PM	#33
totee Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Toronto Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA Good thread. I would say take it like a business and talk to your affiliate manager alot.
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07-12-2010, 03:13 AM	#34
Mário Gomes WF is my ATM War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Portugal Posts: 514 Thanks: 48 Thanked 27 Times in 21 Posts Contact Info	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA I have to agree with Ryan, on "Get your damn credit card out and start losing money". When you are losing money, you focus and learn very quickly. Also, I would say TEST things like a mad scientist, even if they don't make complete sense to you and avoid doing what every one else is doing. Honestly I think these 3 pieces of advice are gold dust.

07-12-2010, 07:43 AM	#38
badboy_Nick Super Affiliate War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,255 Thanks: 3 Thanked 186 Times in 159 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA Hey My piece of advice is this: If you want to make 5-figures every month, do what I do: FINANCE or TRAVEL lead generation in the UK. Bigger margins, bigger payouts and MUCH better than any sales type of stuff. Any questions just let me know, Nick
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07-12-2010, 07:54 AM	#39
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,111 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 672 Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA If I knew THEN what I know NOW.... I would have started with free traffic generation methods instead of jumping right into PPC, then getting drained and reverting to free methods and then reverting back to PPC. My advice....start free traffic, slowly play around with paid traffic, then you can get serious about paid traffic.
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07-12-2010, 09:07 AM	#40
tobiasosllc Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 73 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA Honestly the only thing I wish I did differently was to not buy any guru junk products or wso's. No offense you Kenster or any other person here, but nothing you put in your products isn't something , I could find somewhere else for free. The best way to learn is to try it yourself, not buying garbage products which will provide no experience in the industry.

07-12-2010, 08:30 PM	#44
ChrisBa Senior Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 4,125 Thanks: 10 Thanked 507 Times in 401 Posts Social Networking	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA Diversifying is needed, however there is balance, I find one of the biggest problems most people new to the industry make is they bounce around trying too many different things. IMO - pick 1 strategy/method - master it, then move on to another (slowly but steady diversifying)
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07-12-2010, 08:43 PM	#45
ChadH Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: The Great White North Posts: 546 Thanks: 43 Thanked 249 Times in 107 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA Build my own offerings sooner.
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07-12-2010, 09:43 PM	#46
jamiedot Active Warrior Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 67 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA badboy nick: as a brit, are you focusing on UK cpa rather than incorporating USA offerings?

07-13-2010, 04:37 PM	#48
Okenyon www.cpafix.com War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 222 Thanks: 7 Thanked 47 Times in 15 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA pick a niche that isnt saturated!

09-30-2010, 01:53 PM	#49
soboer HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 117 Thanks: 9 Thanked 11 Times in 11 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA I would have started with building a list. I believe that building a list is the foundation of internet marketing.

09-30-2010, 02:13 PM	#50
InternetWriter MarketerSwap War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Vegas, USA Posts: 155 Thanks: 57 Thanked 9 Times in 7 Posts	Re: If I Knew What I Know Now - CPA I think I was too young to give a **** lol. I just turned 15 when I started and didn't really focus much more then GPT. A few months later I was full time. I think I would tell myself, stick to my first site I started. It would be #1 in ranking by now and raking in 20k min. a month.
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