Go Back   WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Ad Networks - CPA, CPM, CPL - Millionaire Makers..
Register Blogs FAQ Social Groups CalendarHelp Desk

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 07-12-2010, 04:06 AM   #1
HyperActive Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 157
Thanks: 2,537
Thanked 24 Times in 11 Posts
Default Using Animoto for Video's?

Hey everybody, since I know that Animoto doesn't like people using their platform for "commercial purposes", would that mean that we can't use their service to promote CPA offers even though we aren't selling anything (free CPA leads)?

I figured that if we were to promote CPA offers that didn't require a user to spend anything, then it'd mean that we wouldn't be in violation of "commercial advertising", but I could be wrong...

Moreover, have any of you guys ever made a video promoting a CPA offer (using Animoto)?

Also, is the service free, or do you have to pay? Also, can you download video's from their server to your computer for free, or do you have to pay to do that?

subse7en is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 05:41 AM   #2
Internet Marketer
 
Univee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 42
Thanks: 8
Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

I'd also like to hear from anyone, with good experience in video+CPA+$$$ conversions, in regards of animoto use.
When I saw animoto slideshow video teh first time I was so impressed. So slick and quality, I thought. Now, using it quite a lot I can say, that you cannot replace value with just slick motion slides.

Dunno, when I finalized the video I liked it. It seemed the public didn't. People don't believe that in order to take action or I miss something and therefore a good showcase of convertable video is severely needed here.

POWER OF NUMBERS. TOP piece of advice is to go in for bulk domination. But if you do slick crap content, as someone commented my animoto vids on youtube, there's no point of multiplying th crap load of 1-click remix videos. PLease comment this as well.

Some more thoughs. As we can easily research the 1st youtube page - there's much total stupidity crap, but with crazy numbers of views. No slick stuff almost, just something absolutely dumb, crazy or sexy. Pretty much of a dissapointment fro those design oriented and esthetic vulnerable marketers that want to get it packed with Hollywood trailer quality.

Animoto is definitely good tool, but there's much of a straight, dumbass approach needed to get conversions.

Please add some experience here if you got any in the field of video+CPA-> conversions.
Univee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 07:51 AM   #3
Krazy Kenster
War Room Member
 
Kenster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,111
Blog Entries: 11
Thanks: 672
Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Quote:
Originally Posted by subse7en View Post
Hey everybody, since I know that Animoto doesn't like people using their platform for "commercial purposes", would that mean that we can't use their service to promote CPA offers even though we aren't selling anything (free CPA leads)?

I figured that if we were to promote CPA offers that didn't require a user to spend anything, then it'd mean that we wouldn't be in violation of "commercial advertising", but I could be wrong...

Moreover, have any of you guys ever made a video promoting a CPA offer (using Animoto)?

Also, is the service free, or do you have to pay? Also, can you download video's from their server to your computer for free, or do you have to pay to do that?




One of my first strategies was video to CPA. Now whether it fits within Animotos TOS, it probably doesnt. I am not confirming nor denying my use of Animoto

What I will say is that video to CPA does work. I know for 100% fact that you can make decent money doing it because I have. For those of you who have heard me and my Power of Numbers theory, this is actually where it originated. I made money by literally how many videos I created, not the quality of videos.

Its not a rocket science strategy but it does take work and a lot of effort.

Kenster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 08:06 AM   #4
Super Affiliate
War Room Member
 
badboy_Nick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Posts: 1,255
Thanks: 3
Thanked 186 Times in 159 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Well

You can do pretty much ANYTHING when you do CPA. The trick is not to get caught if you do shady stuff, but why would you want to send garbage traffic? I know it may be cheaper, but the ocnversions for the merchant will be terrible.

IMO, you always want to keep yoru merchant happy ... that way, you will be rewarded with higher payouts and never pull up a red flag with a network either.

Tip: Try to go direct with merchants instead of thru a network ... you make much more money this way

Nick

Read my incredible story: www.affiliatechamp.co.uk
badboy_Nick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 03:21 PM   #5
HyperActive Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 157
Thanks: 2,537
Thanked 24 Times in 11 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Univee View Post
I'd also like to hear from anyone, with good experience in video+CPA+$$$ conversions, in regards of animoto use.
When I saw animoto slideshow video teh first time I was so impressed. So slick and quality, I thought. Now, using it quite a lot I can say, that you cannot replace value with just slick motion slides.

Dunno, when I finalized the video I liked it. It seemed the public didn't. People don't believe that in order to take action or I miss something and therefore a good showcase of convertable video is severely needed here.

POWER OF NUMBERS. TOP piece of advice is to go in for bulk domination. But if you do slick crap content, as someone commented my animoto vids on youtube, there's no point of multiplying th crap load of 1-click remix videos. PLease comment this as well.

Some more thoughs. As we can easily research the 1st youtube page - there's much total stupidity crap, but with crazy numbers of views. No slick stuff almost, just something absolutely dumb, crazy or sexy. Pretty much of a dissapointment fro those design oriented and esthetic vulnerable marketers that want to get it packed with Hollywood trailer quality.

Animoto is definitely good tool, but there's much of a straight, dumbass approach needed to get conversions.

Please add some experience here if you got any in the field of video+CPA-> conversions.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenster View Post
One of my first strategies was video to CPA. Now whether it fits within Animotos TOS, it probably doesnt. I am not confirming nor denying my use of Animoto

What I will say is that video to CPA does work. I know for 100% fact that you can make decent money doing it because I have. For those of you who have heard me and my Power of Numbers theory, this is actually where it originated. I made money by literally how many videos I created, not the quality of videos.

Its not a rocket science strategy but it does take work and a lot of effort.
Quote:
Originally Posted by badboy_Nick View Post
Well

You can do pretty much ANYTHING when you do CPA. The trick is not to get caught if you do shady stuff, but why would you want to send garbage traffic? I know it may be cheaper, but the ocnversions for the merchant will be terrible.

IMO, you always want to keep yoru merchant happy ... that way, you will be rewarded with higher payouts and never pull up a red flag with a network either.

Tip: Try to go direct with merchants instead of thru a network ... you make much more money this way

Nick
Thanks guys for the replies; but still, since we aren't really selling anything with the average CPA offer (because their free leads), shouldn't that mean that we wouldn't be in violation of promoting anything for " commercial purposes"?

By the way; is the service free, or do you have to pay? Also, can you download video's from their server to your computer for free, or do you have to pay to do that too?

subse7en is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 03:44 PM   #6
Active Warrior
War Room Member
 
Premium Wordpress's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 30
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

I have had much more luck using simple review type videos for CPA conversions. I pay people to do reviews for me and even some of the most pathetic reviews where the guy was obviously reading from a script (and very poorly) made me money on YouTube. Flashy animoto videos look impressive but they don't convert well, at least in my experience.

Premium Wordpress is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 03:49 PM   #7
HyperActive Warrior
War Room Member
 
Dean Martin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Chambersburg, PA
Posts: 264
Blog Entries: 2
Thanks: 12
Thanked 45 Times in 38 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Premium Wordpress View Post
I have had much more luck using simple review type videos for CPA conversions. I pay people to do reviews for me and even some of the most pathetic reviews where the guy was obviously reading from a script (and very poorly) made me money on YouTube. Flashy animoto videos look impressive but they don't convert well, at least in my experience.
Agreed - simple people doing even crude reviews work best for CPA offers.

Animoto does work! But for the offline market - they are enamored w/the slick videos and w/a little promotion Google will rank them front page


Dean Martin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 04:07 PM   #8
HyperActive Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 157
Thanks: 2,537
Thanked 24 Times in 11 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

LOL guys, thanks for the replies, but still, don't forget to answer these questions that I previously posed:

Thanks guys for the replies; but still, since we aren't really selling anything with the average CPA offer (because their free leads), shouldn't that mean that we wouldn't be in violation of promoting anything for " commercial purposes"?

By the way; is the service free, or do you have to pay? Also, can you download video's from their server to your computer for free, or do you have to pay to do that too?
subse7en is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 04:41 PM   #9
Krazy Kenster
War Room Member
 
Kenster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,111
Blog Entries: 11
Thanks: 672
Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Premium Wordpress View Post
I have had much more luck using simple review type videos for CPA conversions. I pay people to do reviews for me and even some of the most pathetic reviews where the guy was obviously reading from a script (and very poorly) made me money on YouTube. Flashy animoto videos look impressive but they don't convert well, at least in my experience.
Quote:
Originally Posted by subse7en View Post
LOL guys, thanks for the replies, but still, don't forget to answer these questions that I previously posed:

Thanks guys for the replies; but still, since we aren't really selling anything with the average CPA offer (because their free leads), shouldn't that mean that we wouldn't be in violation of promoting anything for " commercial purposes"?

By the way; is the service free, or do you have to pay? Also, can you download video's from their server to your computer for free, or do you have to pay to do that too?



I agree. Animoto videos dont generally convert as well as other types of videos, but when you can pimp out 10x or 100x the number of 'regular videos', then the power of numbers can trump the conversion rate difference. Everybody will have their own way of doing video marketing though.


I still think its seen as a 'commercial' purpose, because its not for personal use. Its not a video we are sending to our buddies, its a video getting unknown traffic ultimately to our CPA offers. I haven't read the actual terms anytime recently, but I would assume it somehow violates it somehow. Could be wrong.

There are also a few versions of it, at different costs.

Kenster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 06:32 PM   #10
Active Warrior
War Room Member
 
Premium Wordpress's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 30
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

@ dlmartin,

I do have to admit this is an impressive video and does add value and educates the viewer. Are you able to get them ranked in Google? Great voice over btw.

Premium Wordpress is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 07:59 PM   #11
Active Warrior
 
Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 67
Thanks: 1
Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

in answer to the original poster, you asked is there a price tag attached to animoto and the answer is YES if you dont want their animoto logo showing on your vids (the example shown above is a perfect illustration of no logo) and the price is circa $250 p.a. or $99 for 3 months trial.

if youre ok about their logo appearing at the the end of your vid, the product is FREE.

t.o.s. violations - bit of a tough call there - you need to make your own decision on that. besides, i havent checked as i dont use the free version.
jamiedot is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 08:35 PM   #12
HyperActive Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 157
Thanks: 2,537
Thanked 24 Times in 11 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Quote:
Originally Posted by jamiedot View Post
in answer to the original poster, you asked is there a price tag attached to animoto and the answer is YES if you dont want their animoto logo showing on your vids (the example shown above is a perfect illustration of no logo) and the price is circa $250 p.a. or $99 for 3 months trial.

if youre ok about their logo appearing at the the end of your vid, the product is FREE.

t.o.s. violations - bit of a tough call there - you need to make your own decision on that. besides, i havent checked as i dont use the free version.
Thanks Jamie for the reply! BTW, so as long as I don't mind the ANIMOTO Logo showing up in my video (which I don't), I can use/create video's for free? Also, how long do the video's have to be before they start charging a fee, or does it matter in the first place?

Last but not least, do they charge anything to download video's to your hard drive to upload to YouTube?

subse7en is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 10:36 PM   #13
Krazy Kenster
War Room Member
 
Kenster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,111
Blog Entries: 11
Thanks: 672
Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Quote:
Originally Posted by subse7en View Post
Thanks Jamie for the reply! BTW, so as long as I don't mind the ANIMOTO Logo showing up in my video (which I don't), I can use/create video's for free? Also, how long do the video's have to be before they start charging a fee, or does it matter in the first place?

Last but not least, do they charge anything to download video's to your hard drive to upload to YouTube?


What a lot of people do (again it violates the terms) is have the free version (limited to 30 sec i believe) and then they download the video and take out the animoto logo at the end.

Again, this is not advised as it violates the terms. If you are using their software free, why not give them credit...along with the music, assuming you are using any of the songs they provide.

Its free for the vids and you can have unlimited...last time I checked.


check out their site though for all the ins and outs

Kenster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 11:31 PM   #14
HyperActive Warrior
War Room Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 253
Thanks: 52
Thanked 28 Times in 28 Posts
Social Networking View Member's Twitter Profile 
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kenster View Post
What a lot of people do (again it violates the terms) is have the free version (limited to 30 sec i believe) and then they download the video and take out the animoto logo at the end.

Again, this is not advised as it violates the terms. If you are using their software free, why not give them credit...along with the music, assuming you are using any of the songs they provide.

Its free for the vids and you can have unlimited...last time I checked.


check out their site though for all the ins and outs
Hi Ken,

You just bring a lot information, can I ask you what element include in your video? say how long it is?

As my spoken english is poor, I am wondering you are only using background music or you will have a script with slide show.

Thanks
Ringo
ringoli is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010, 12:38 AM   #15
Internet Marketer
 
Univee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 42
Thanks: 8
Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Animoto is quality video tool. For your personal enjoyment, when you render any slideshow is perfect! It's always unpredictable how actually all images will be compiled along with music.

It costs 30$ a year. When you have the full version for this money you can upload your own images, videos or use animoto's set of img and vids as well. Besides they have many soundtracks of different genres:from top pop and r'n'b to oldies.

You can add your own images, videos, music or any other mp3 files as speech whatever.

The length is unlimited, but when you upload a lot it might take a lot of time to get rendered. One time it took an hour to render somth.

Don't get upset, when Animoto tells you, that they fix some issues with their engine and you cannot use their service. It happens very rarely and afterwards all your finalized vids will remain stored in your account.

What else... before uploading to youtube I always cut the ending with animoto sign.
It seems to me if you are just starting there won't be much noise from anywhere, before you get any big, to rip your wallet off, relying on TOS or laywers. Of course, legitimacy and white hat is a must, but these little cuts in your videos won't make difference now.

P.S. As soon as your video is ready you can export it with a sign to youtube and it takes seconds. You can download it to your PC. Also there are ptions to edit it:change any part of it manually or ONECLICK method and you will get the same sequence in a slightly different way.
Univee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010, 12:45 AM   #16
HyperActive Warrior
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 157
Thanks: 2,537
Thanked 24 Times in 11 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Univee View Post
Animoto is quality video tool. For your personal enjoyment, when you render any slideshow is perfect! It's always unpredictable how actually all images will be compiled along with music.

It costs 30$ a year. When you have the full version for this money you can upload your own images, videos or use animoto's set of img and vids as well. Besides they have many soundtracks of different genres:from top pop and r'n'b to oldies.

You can add your own images, videos, music or any other mp3 files as speech whatever.

The length is unlimited, but when you upload a lot it might take a lot of time to get rendered. One time it took an hour to render somth.

Don't get upset, when Animoto tells you, that they fix some issues with their engine and you cannot use their service. It happens very rarely and afterwards all your finalized vids will remain stored in your account.

What else... before uploading to youtube I always cut the ending with animoto sign.
It seems to me if you are just starting there won't be much noise from anywhere, before you get any big, to rip your wallet off, relying on TOS or laywers. Of course, legitimacy and white hat is a must, but these little cuts in your videos won't make difference now.
Hey UniVee, I thought it was like $250+ (or something like that) a year to use Animoto, instead of just a measly $30, big bro'? I hope you're right, because if so, I'll be buying that package SOON!

subse7en is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010, 01:34 AM   #17
Internet Marketer
 
Univee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 42
Thanks: 8
Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Hello,

http // animoto com/pricing

Check it out, 30$ is the same as you get for $250. As long as you can add your own music and cut the ending - don't see any reasons to squander funds being in startup mode or a newbie.

P.S. The only thing is difference in quality of videos, i.e. resoulution. DVD vs poorer dpi vid render. But now it doesn't count at all. Look at the crap with 1000000000000 views in youtube

P.P.S. If you are fond of video marketing you can pm me and send me your email (the thing is that I cannot pm you in return, because of posts number under 50). I'll tell you more and maybe we'll make it work somehow in the future in a great manner. Feel free.
Univee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010, 01:41 AM   #18
Warrior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 4
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

animoto is a good and cheap deal
autoblogcreator is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010, 10:13 AM   #19
Krazy Kenster
War Room Member
 
Kenster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,111
Blog Entries: 11
Thanks: 672
Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Quote:
Originally Posted by ringoli View Post
Hi Ken,

You just bring a lot information, can I ask you what element include in your video? say how long it is?

As my spoken english is poor, I am wondering you are only using background music or you will have a script with slide show.

Thanks
Ringo

Hi Ringo,

Videos can vary in length, and I had no set time at all. Included in the video is normally the graphic slides (pictures) music, and then text slides.

The text slides are the key to your success. Its the marketing message. The point is to convince people to click to your offer/site. This is where the creativity comes in because you dont want to SELL to hard or else people wont visit.

I like to say you want to TEASE the viewer. Let the site/offer page sell them.

Best, Ken

Kenster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010, 12:43 PM   #20
Shane Farrell
War Room Member
 
Shane F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Upstate NY
Posts: 290
Thanks: 67
Thanked 65 Times in 39 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

The $30 a year option says not for "commercial use" in the TOS. What that means they are a little vague. Anyone have any trouble using the lower priced option for uploading to youtube and video distribution for affiliate promotions?

SMS Marketing White Label Platform Launching Soon...Join The Early Notification List

FREE WSO: [OFFLINE GOLD] FourSquare.com Small Business Marketing Report

Shane F is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010, 02:47 PM   #21
HyperActive Warrior
War Room Member
 
Seantrepreneur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Maine
Posts: 469
Thanks: 11
Thanked 99 Times in 86 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Seantrepreneur
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

So If I'm understanding this correctly, I create one video (weather it be the free version or paid) and I hit render 100 (random number) times which well create 100 unique videos and then upload all of them to YouTube?? Or am I totally off on this?

Sean

Seantrepreneur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010, 05:02 PM   #22
Krazy Kenster
War Room Member
 
Kenster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,111
Blog Entries: 11
Thanks: 672
Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seantrepreneur View Post
So If I'm understanding this correctly, I create one video (weather it be the free version or paid) and I hit render 100 (random number) times which well create 100 unique videos and then upload all of them to YouTube?? Or am I totally off on this?

Sean

Sort of off. It renders and then you can re-render. Its not like you put in the number 100 and it will render 100 different vids.

Multiple browsers....

Kenster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-13-2010, 05:13 PM   #23
HyperActive Warrior
War Room Member
 
Seantrepreneur's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Maine
Posts: 469
Thanks: 11
Thanked 99 Times in 86 Posts
Social Networking View Member's FaceBook Profile 
Contact Info
Send a message via Skype™ to Seantrepreneur
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Quote:
Sort of off. It renders and then you can re-render. Its not like you put in the number 100 and it will render 100 different vids.

Multiple browsers....
Ya I think we are talking about the same thing. I meant that you could actually render it 100 times and have 100 videos to upload. You know what I mean? I don't think I did a good job explaining myself.

Seantrepreneur is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010, 12:07 AM   #24
Internet Marketer
 
Univee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 42
Thanks: 8
Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Animoto doesn't change the sequence of your images, videos preset. What it does is just different effect of animation. That's not very different.
Univee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010, 06:40 AM   #25
Internet Marketer
 
Univee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 42
Thanks: 8
Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

To Seantrepreneur:

cannot reply from inside the WF PM area. (not enough number of posts yet)
You got AIM - so I replied to get in touch.
Univee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-14-2010, 12:28 PM   #26
Krazy Kenster
War Room Member
 
Kenster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 5,111
Blog Entries: 11
Thanks: 672
Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts
Default Re: Using Animoto for Video's?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Univee View Post
Animoto doesn't change the sequence of your images, videos preset. What it does is just different effect of animation. That's not very different.

Yep, but once a video is rendered, you can literally add one slide, change the music, or delete slides in 10 seconds. Then just re-render and it will be more different than the one-touch rendering.

ken

Kenster is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

  WarriorForum - Internet Marketing Forums > The Warrior Forum > Ad Networks - CPA, CPM, CPL - Millionaire Makers..

Tags
animoto, cpa offers, video, video editors, video marketing, youtube and cpa

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 06:39 PM.