Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying?

umaar.k · 07-19-2010, 06:02 AM

hello fellow members ,
i have an offer to buy email list of 200,000 people , all US targeted , related to financial and dating . all leads collected in 2010 .
i just want to ask if any one of you ever bought that kind of deal , or is it worth to buy? because my emails may considered as spam , and may hardly any of them open my emails, as these are not collected by me.
does any one had in same sort of situation, or any suggestions?

thanks in advance, looking forward to your replies.

regards,

warriorjackie · 07-19-2010, 06:14 AM

i feel that this kind of email list are not targeted to your market
it is only small list size that will be considered more targeted

Cathy Shelver · 07-19-2010, 06:33 AM

It depends how much it's going to cost you I think you will come accross as spamming if you just start marketing to the list.

If the price is reasonable I would suggest setting up a good squeeze page with a free ebook i.e. give value and then send out one properly written email stating that you will only send this one email and have the following free product if they ared interested if no reply you will never contact them again.

Those that take you up on your offer are then definately part of your list.

It may even be better instead of buying the list pay less and ask the owner to send that email for you and you should have the same results.

My thoughts

Quote:

Originally Posted by umaar.k

hello fellow members ,
i have an offer to buy email list of 200,000 people , all US targeted , related to financial and dating . all leads collected in 2010 .
i just want to ask if any one of you ever bought that kind of deal , or is it worth to buy? because my emails may considered as spam , and may hardly any of them open my emails, as these are not collected by me.
does any one had in same sort of situation, or any suggestions?

thanks in advance, looking forward to your replies.

regards,

umaar.k · 07-19-2010, 06:56 AM

thanks nashelver for such a good advice , the list is costing me 40usd , and 100usd for another list of 500,000 , which is basic consumer list, not specific to any niche or vertical.
which one i should go for?? any suggestion .

regards,
umaar k

Quote:

Originally Posted by nashelver

It depends how much it's going to cost you I think you will come accross as spamming if you just start marketing to the list.

If the price is reasonable I would suggest setting up a good squeeze page with a free ebook i.e. give value and then send out one properly written email stating that you will only send this one email and have the following free product if they ared interested if no reply you will never contact them again.

Those that take you up on your offer are then definately part of your list.

It may even be better instead of buying the list pay less and ask the owner to send that email for you and you should have the same results.

My thoughts

Kenster · 07-19-2010, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by umaar.k

thanks nashelver for such a good advice , the list is costing me 40usd , and 100usd for another list of 500,000 , which is basic consumer list, not specific to any niche or vertical.
which one i should go for?? any suggestion .

regards,
umaar k

Honestly, for that price I would expect the list quality to be uhhh not-so-stellar. But as with most things, I am a huge fan of trying to new things. Most things will fail, but heck, assuming the list size is legit, it should be fairly easy to recoup most/all of the payment.

But this is an extremely extremely low price, so dont be expecting much from this list.

Is there any way to do some diligence on this vendor to ensure the legitimacy of the sale?

rchudej1 · 07-19-2010, 07:01 AM

Great advice by Nashelver. However, if the list owner don't want to send your email. Why not consider spending on that list and try it all for yourself. It's a small investment.

umaar.k · 07-19-2010, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenster

Honestly, for that price I would expect the list quality to be uhhh not-so-stellar. But as with most things, I am a huge fan of trying to new things. Most things will fail, but heck, assuming the list size is legit, it should be fairly easy to recoup most/all of the payment.

But this is an extremely extremely low price, so dont be expecting much from this list.

Is there any way to do some diligence on this vendor to ensure the legitimacy of the sale?

hey kenster,
i was thinking the same way,and wanted to give it a shot but let me explain the whole story.
the vendor basically is not related to internet marketing, he used to work for the survay company , he had the backup of whole data. so its basically a simple consumer list.
now he is telling me that one of his friend use to work in financial company and he have data for credit repair leads, almost 5 hundred thousand with their adresses, phone numbers, zips, even ip adresses and optin source, and he wants to trade for 600 usd.
so, its really confusing me , coz i just borrowed some money for advertising, and this thing came up.
i can do only one thing wheather i buy this or i do my ppc and ppv advertising. thats why i was asking if any fellow member had an experiance like this. am sure now you can understand the whole problem and situation of me.
i ll much appreciate your guidance.

regards,

tylerdrun · 07-19-2010, 12:02 PM

that's stealing... the company the guy's working for can sue both of you. he has no right to sell that list...

J Bold · 07-19-2010, 12:33 PM

I would not do it. Only use emails that you yourself have collected with confirmed opt-in and you should always be safe.

vikramd · 07-19-2010, 12:49 PM

I agree with Kenster - that is a worthless list some guy just scraped email addresses off of facebook and other social sites and has collected them together to resell.

The truth is- you can generate your own list of hundreds of thousands of people by doing the same

If you want to do list building look into CPM (cost per mailing) and have some content to give them to build up your own list.

Chris Worner · 07-19-2010, 01:13 PM

AVOID BUYING LISTS LIKE THE PLAGUE!

Here is why,

no reputable auto-responder will accept purchased leads, so you are going to have to set up your own auto-responder which will cost you into the thousands of $ range. You will need a pretty expensive dedicated server(quite possibly more than one considering the list size), auto-responder software, then you will have to sign up for an smtp account to insure the maximum deliver-ability rate, unless you can afford your own quality control team to make sure your emails don't wind up in the spam folder.

Here's a rough cost guide:

High end dedicated server = $600 a month + if you require a second or third and so on...

Auto-responder = Auto-response plus $200 or Interspire Email = $500

Bulk smtp.com account to send the emails through = $240 just to be able to send out 200K emails monthly, if you are planning to send out more, the price increase's quite exponentially.

So that list will cost you more than you can imagine.

Chris

cozmokramer · 07-19-2010, 02:53 PM

vikramd is right, you could easily put together just as good of a list. then again its time consuming. keep in mind that you get what you pay for... i don't care where it comes from.

williamrs · 07-19-2010, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by umaar.k

hello fellow members ,
i have an offer to buy email list of 200,000 people , all US targeted , related to financial and dating . all leads collected in 2010 .
i just want to ask if any one of you ever bought that kind of deal , or is it worth to buy? because my emails may considered as spam , and may hardly any of them open my emails, as these are not collected by me.
does any one had in same sort of situation, or any suggestions?

thanks in advance, looking forward to your replies.

regards,

It depends on many factors. How much the list is going to cost? How profitable can it be?

200K is a a lot of subscribers and we rarely see people with such big lists trying to sell them. So be careful, because chances are that there is a catch there and you may lose your money.

William

Phobos · 07-19-2010, 03:49 PM

The emails are from a guy who got them from a guy working for this company where he knew a guy ... sounds like a classic case of SPAMZILLA

200000 fresh US finance targeted leads don't sell for 40$. Be careful as spam fines run as high as $300 a pop so $300x200.000 =

. A 12 years old kid knows what email harvesting is nowadays...
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umaar.k · 07-19-2010, 06:19 PM

thanks guyz for such a good advices, i think i should stay with ppc and ppv for the time being , until i generate some good revenue ,

thanks every body who contribute in this.

regards,

KC-Coop · 07-19-2010, 06:40 PM

I wouldn't buy a list from someone like this that you don't really know. I typically gather my own lists - and with PPV you can definitely build some niche specific lists.

I think I'd just go ahead and stick with PPC/PPV and build lists that way instead.

timpears · 07-19-2010, 06:45 PM

If you use that list it will be SPAM as you have no relationship with the members of that list. You run the risk of, I think it is a $11,000 fine for each violation (I think that is $11K *200K).

Besides that, I have never heard of anyone making money with these type of lists. I am sure there are some, but most of these list are junk. You will be much better off spending the money on a product you can give away and building your own list.

This is just a lay opinion, I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

ChrisBa · 07-20-2010, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by umaar.k

hello fellow members ,
i have an offer to buy email list of 200,000 people , all US targeted , related to financial and dating . all leads collected in 2010 .
i just want to ask if any one of you ever bought that kind of deal , or is it worth to buy? because my emails may considered as spam , and may hardly any of them open my emails, as these are not collected by me.
does any one had in same sort of situation, or any suggestions?

thanks in advance, looking forward to your replies.

regards,

no, if you didn't build the list yourself, you are just looking for problems

umaar.k · 07-20-2010, 10:25 AM

thanks for your good advices fellow members,
i didnt get much positive responses, so i am dropping the idea for the time being.

thanks every body to help me to make the decision.

but if anyone had in same situation , and had positive results , than please let me know

regards,

mattlaclear · 07-20-2010, 10:30 AM

If a list of that size was truly valuable why do you think the vendors are trying to sell it to you for so cheap? I suggest you immediately delete their email and not think another second about purchasing it. Instead focus your energies and resources towards building your own list of subscribers. You'll be much better off if you do. Trust me.

TE2 · 07-20-2010, 12:25 PM

ALERT - Do NOT send email to lists that you did not build yourself.

See this thread - http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...e-e-mails.html

John

connorbringas · 07-20-2010, 12:27 PM

Hey guys, new to this forum. I'd have to agree with previous posts and also say that that is very cheap for an email list..to cheap if you ask me. I doubt your going to get anything from that list..

gamingmaster42 · 07-20-2010, 12:34 PM

The quality of that list is most likely really bad for such a cheap price. Don't buy it save your money

Seany D · 07-21-2010, 09:58 AM

Sounds like the guy trying to sell you this list could be the same guy who sold tommy1984 his list of 950 million emails. Just read this thread, just got a list of 950 million active e-mails

My advise.... stay away from any list that is not built from your own double opt in efforts. Poor tommy1984 just had probably one of the most expensive learning experiences he will ever have to endure from buying such a list like the one you speak of. I think he paid $550 for 70% of the worlds emails. SCAM!!!

You said you had some money to invest in your campaigns... use it in other ways. Maybe use some to invest in building your own double opt in list.

My final thoughts are this: The list this guy is trying to sell you will do you know good in the long run, so please be smart and take the advise of your fellow Warriors.

BobV · 07-21-2010, 12:21 PM

Definitely the price is low though there would be risks to take.

Email harvesting is indeed easy to get nowadays but getting legit, active ones that would fit your market would be the only thing that is unsure.

You have to consider the quality.. Sometimes low prices had low qualities..the problem would be it'll be waste of time and effort..

But if these came from a reliable source then you can take their word for it and try it out..

Best regards,
Bob

mdpinson · 07-21-2010, 02:14 PM

I would be very careful on this. Besides, opt in is best way. You don't know where those emails actually came from. I have done in the past and no success.

bigbrian · 07-21-2010, 07:21 PM

Basic rule to lists... If someone is selling you a list it probably isn't worth anything because a list that is "good" wouldn't be for sale. There is a lot of money in a "list" so keep that in mind. Again... Nobody is going to sell a "good" list.

Plus is doesn't sound like this is a legit optin/can-spam compliant list. It sounds like ol' boy scraped up some emails and is going to just sell them to you. I would probably pass on the deal man.

Brian

07-19-2010, 06:02 AM	#1
umaar.k Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? hello fellow members , i have an offer to buy email list of 200,000 people , all US targeted , related to financial and dating . all leads collected in 2010 . i just want to ask if any one of you ever bought that kind of deal , or is it worth to buy? because my emails may considered as spam , and may hardly any of them open my emails, as these are not collected by me. does any one had in same sort of situation, or any suggestions? thanks in advance, looking forward to your replies. regards,

07-19-2010, 06:14 AM	#2
warriorjackie Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 91 Thanks: 6 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? i feel that this kind of email list are not targeted to your market it is only small list size that will be considered more targeted
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rchudej1 Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Posts: 59 Thanks: 10 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? Great advice by Nashelver. However, if the list owner don't want to send your email. Why not consider spending on that list and try it all for yourself. It's a small investment.

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tylerdrun The Greatest Marketer Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bangalore, India Posts: 462 Thanks: 256 Thanked 68 Times in 58 Posts	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? that's stealing... the company the guy's working for can sue both of you. he has no right to sell that list...

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vikramd Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: East Coast Posts: 320 Thanks: 59 Thanked 123 Times in 51 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? I agree with Kenster - that is a worthless list some guy just scraped email addresses off of facebook and other social sites and has collected them together to resell. The truth is- you can generate your own list of hundreds of thousands of people by doing the same If you want to do list building look into CPM (cost per mailing) and have some content to give them to build up your own list.

07-19-2010, 01:13 PM	#11
Chris Worner Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Melbourne Posts: 1,333 Thanks: 1,913 Thanked 652 Times in 344 Posts Contact Info	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? AVOID BUYING LISTS LIKE THE PLAGUE! Here is why, no reputable auto-responder will accept purchased leads, so you are going to have to set up your own auto-responder which will cost you into the thousands of $ range. You will need a pretty expensive dedicated server(quite possibly more than one considering the list size), auto-responder software, then you will have to sign up for an smtp account to insure the maximum deliver-ability rate, unless you can afford your own quality control team to make sure your emails don't wind up in the spam folder. Here's a rough cost guide: High end dedicated server = $600 a month + if you require a second or third and so on... Auto-responder = Auto-response plus $200 or Interspire Email = $500 Bulk smtp.com account to send the emails through = $240 just to be able to send out 200K emails monthly, if you are planning to send out more, the price increase's quite exponentially. So that list will cost you more than you can imagine. Chris

07-19-2010, 02:53 PM	#12
cozmokramer Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 7 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? vikramd is right, you could easily put together just as good of a list. then again its time consuming. keep in mind that you get what you pay for... i don't care where it comes from.
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Phobos HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 304 Thanks: 34 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? The emails are from a guy who got them from a guy working for this company where he knew a guy ... sounds like a classic case of SPAMZILLA 200000 fresh US finance targeted leads don't sell for 40$. Be careful as spam fines run as high as $300 a pop so $300x200.000 = . A 12 years old kid knows what email harvesting is nowadays... ________ Ford Hsc Engine Specifications

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umaar.k Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? thanks guyz for such a good advices, i think i should stay with ppc and ppv for the time being , until i generate some good revenue , thanks every body who contribute in this. regards,

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KC-Coop Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 523 Thanks: 2 Thanked 62 Times in 55 Posts Contact Info	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? I wouldn't buy a list from someone like this that you don't really know. I typically gather my own lists - and with PPV you can definitely build some niche specific lists. I think I'd just go ahead and stick with PPC/PPV and build lists that way instead.

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07-20-2010, 10:25 AM	#19
umaar.k Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 33 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? thanks for your good advices fellow members, i didnt get much positive responses, so i am dropping the idea for the time being. thanks every body to help me to make the decision. but if anyone had in same situation , and had positive results , than please let me know regards,

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connorbringas HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 264 Thanks: 13 Thanked 10 Times in 10 Posts Social Networking	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? Hey guys, new to this forum. I'd have to agree with previous posts and also say that that is very cheap for an email list..to cheap if you ask me. I doubt your going to get anything from that list..
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gamingmaster42 Warrior Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 21 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? The quality of that list is most likely really bad for such a cheap price. Don't buy it save your money
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Seany D HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: New York Posts: 101 Thanks: 8 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? Sounds like the guy trying to sell you this list could be the same guy who sold tommy1984 his list of 950 million emails. Just read this thread, just got a list of 950 million active e-mails My advise.... stay away from any list that is not built from your own double opt in efforts. Poor tommy1984 just had probably one of the most expensive learning experiences he will ever have to endure from buying such a list like the one you speak of. I think he paid $550 for 70% of the worlds emails. SCAM!!! You said you had some money to invest in your campaigns... use it in other ways. Maybe use some to invest in building your own double opt in list. My final thoughts are this: The list this guy is trying to sell you will do you know good in the long run, so please be smart and take the advise of your fellow Warriors.

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BobV Warrior Companion War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 170 Thanks: 11 Thanked 19 Times in 17 Posts	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? Definitely the price is low though there would be risks to take. Email harvesting is indeed easy to get nowadays but getting legit, active ones that would fit your market would be the only thing that is unsure. You have to consider the quality.. Sometimes low prices had low qualities..the problem would be it'll be waste of time and effort.. But if these came from a reliable source then you can take their word for it and try it out.. Best regards, Bob

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mdpinson Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 8 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? I would be very careful on this. Besides, opt in is best way. You don't know where those emails actually came from. I have done in the past and no success.
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bigbrian The Boss // Envyus Media War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 318 Thanks: 29 Thanked 57 Times in 50 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Some body is offering me an email list of 200,000 , is it worth buying? Basic rule to lists... If someone is selling you a list it probably isn't worth anything because a list that is "good" wouldn't be for sale. There is a lot of money in a "list" so keep that in mind. Again... Nobody is going to sell a "good" list. Plus is doesn't sound like this is a legit optin/can-spam compliant list. It sounds like ol' boy scraped up some emails and is going to just sell them to you. I would probably pass on the deal man. Brian
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