Craigslist, why not?

Blade Runner 88 · 09-07-2010, 02:45 AM

I see various comments that Craigs list doesn't like cpa or banners or something about them, and sometimes in my offer information at EWA that the clients don't want info that comes from CraigsList. I don't understand what this is all about, can someone explain? thanks BR88

martinkeens · 09-07-2010, 07:25 AM

So many people have used less-than-legitimate tactics to obtain leads through Craigslist that most networks and advertisers would rather just lose the few legitimate leads that actually come through than deal with all of the garbage ones. It was a pretty good source of traffic and money for a while, but then as usual, a few bad apples came in and ruined it for everyone.

There are still a couple ways to work with CL traffic, but you have to be VERY careful.

Kenster · 09-07-2010, 07:47 AM

Hey Blade...

This was a recent thread that went into your exact question

Craigslist For Marketing CPA?

Enjoy

~ken

Seantrepreneur · 09-07-2010, 08:48 AM

Hey BR88,

I think you'll see from what Kenster is showing you and from reading more about it that dirtbags have used CL to do some shady stuff to make some money because they weren't smart enough to do it a legit way. Now its very hard (not impossible) to promote on CL because of all the restriction that CL and advertisers have put up because of this.

Make sure to check with your AM before you start promoting on CL. You don't want to make a pile of money and then get it all taken away because they found out you were promoting on CL.

Sean

Jay Lange · 09-07-2010, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade Runner 88

I see various comments that Craigs list doesn't like cpa or banners or something about them, and sometimes in my offer information at EWA that the clients don't want info that comes from CraigsList. I don't understand what this is all about, can someone explain? thanks BR88

Unethical marketing tactics to drive traffic to an offer with the intent to deceive or defraud.

EmpyreRJ · 09-07-2010, 12:24 PM

you can use craiglist in better way... drive traffic to landing page make an optin list and then promote the products.

COPEAC Stephen · 09-07-2010, 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade Runner 88

I see various comments that Craigs list doesn't like cpa or banners or something about them, and sometimes in my offer information at EWA that the clients don't want info that comes from CraigsList. I don't understand what this is all about, can someone explain? thanks BR88

Ignoring the fact that CL doesnt like CPA or banners like you mentioned...more importantly for you as an affiliate is ADV typically hate CL traffic...Reasons for this will vary but the most common response i see is that the way the offers are promoted through CL are incentivized...

As mentioned earlier, it may back out for some ADV and they may be fine with it but i would always check with the network before beginning to explore CL traffic...

Best of luck.

Kenster · 09-07-2010, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay Lange

Unethical marketing tactics to drive traffic to an offer with the intent to deceive or defraud.

I dont want to repeat, so you can check out the above thread I referenced, but CL is a fine way to generate if you do it right. Most people do it wrong and thats why everybody hates CL, but there is a right way it can be done!

Blade Runner 88 · 09-07-2010, 04:25 PM

Thanks everyone, really interesting. I hadn't been considering CraigsList for myself, not yet anyway, it just seemed odd that an obvious traffic stream wasn't being fished, or had warnings 'no fishing', (lol, no, I'm not referring to phishing), I'll have a look over their TOS too. I'm a believer in doing my homework, it makes life so much easier.
cheers BR

Blade Runner 88 · 09-07-2010, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenster

Hey Blade...

This was a recent thread that went into your exact question

Craigslist For Marketing CPA?

Enjoy

~ken

Thanks for that thread info, that was really good to read. I remain somewhat baffled that folks who know very well the dynamic of making landing pages with affiliate links would not do this when running ads there, seems a bit dopey to me, to change tack like that, seems lazy.

See your IM Kenster, got a minute to look at something? thanks BR

Kenster · 09-07-2010, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade Runner 88

Thanks for that thread info, that was really good to read. I remain somewhat baffled that folks who know very well the dynamic of making landing pages with affiliate links would not do this when running ads there, seems a bit dopey to me, to change tack like that, seems lazy.

See your IM Kenster, got a minute to look at something? thanks BR

Thanks mate, you are absolutely correct. Its just too easy to plop up an ad on CL and direct link, thats why so many people do it. But its the people who take the time to do things right and creatively that prosper in the end!

Sure, send me an email or pm!

~ken

jeffrey73 · 09-07-2010, 10:59 PM

Craigslist is "ghost" happy these days. If you plop up a direct link, piss off their users, or act anyway like a commercial marketer, they want you out of there. Internet and Affiliate marketers are not welcome.

If you think Google hates affiliates then Craigslist hates them 100x more. Real businesses are fine, but they pretty much consider affiliates the same as spammers.

To use it effectively you have to be very sly in how you do things. I would never link to a review page or affiliate offer unless it was a "hard" product for sale. In other words, people can physically have it sent to their house or pick it up.

If you want to run a CPA offer, you should set up an auto-responder and make sure to be giving them something relevant to the category you are posting in. Auto-responders will also help you to avoid getting "flagged", although you'll never be able to stop it completely, it will cut it down greatly. Get "flagged" a lot of times and they'll nail your account.

Blade Runner 88 · 09-08-2010, 03:22 AM

I was thinking this over ... what about other classified type sites such as USfreeads. Have they had similar problems with being spammed with cpa ads masquerading as ordinary classifieds, as Craigslist did?
I ask because I've noticed very few cautions about using cpa with them, unlike cautions about Craigslist, which are all over.
Perhaps Craigslist was vulnerable through being the first classified site and therefore unprepared for the onslaught.

Jay Lange · 09-08-2010, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kenster

I dont want to repeat, so you can check out the above thread I referenced, but CL is a fine way to generate if you do it right. Most people do it wrong and thats why everybody hates CL, but there is a right way it can be done!

Yes Kenster, I certainly agree with as I also use CL to generate traffic. However, the majority of people engage in unethical practices which spoils it for us who do not.

Kenster · 09-08-2010, 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blade Runner 88

I was thinking this over ... what about other classified type sites such as USfreeads. Have they had similar problems with being spammed with cpa ads masquerading as ordinary classifieds, as Craigslist did?
I ask because I've noticed very few cautions about using cpa with them, unlike cautions about Craigslist, which are all over.
Perhaps Craigslist was vulnerable through being the first classified site and therefore unprepared for the onslaught.

CL is more pervasive but CPAers permeate many of the classified sites to some degree. Its a problem not that they are there, but how they are using the site. Deception is the biggest problem from a marketing standpoint and the classified sites dislike their sites being bombarded with CPA offers (no value from a classified standpoint).

bladerunner, saw your email/pm run across my iphone, will try and get to it today!

~ken

kndobano · 08-22-2011, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by martinkeens

So many people have used less-than-legitimate tactics to obtain leads through Craigslist that most networks and advertisers would rather just lose the few legitimate leads that actually come through than deal with all of the garbage ones. It was a pretty good source of traffic and money for a while, but then as usual, a few bad apples came in and ruined it for everyone.

There are still a couple ways to work with CL traffic, but you have to be VERY careful.

Can you please share tips on legit ways to work with CL traffic?

Regards

Kela

kndobano · 08-22-2011, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EmpyreRJ

you can use craiglist in better way... drive traffic to landing page make an optin list and then promote the products.

Can you please break it down for a complete newbie? what is the difference from promoting the landing page and promoting the products? i dont understand the optin list issue also.

Regards

Kela

dammitmailer · 08-23-2011, 04:24 PM

I run CL ads for some cpl stuff, but as was already mentioned, you need to set up an autoresponder and not direct link. Also, you need to be picky about the offers you promote and make sure you have a good relationship with your AM.

The volume is nowhere near what it used to be for us, so it's not a big focus anymore thanks to all the bad mojo from the misleading crap that went on and got cracked down on.

BIG JOHN · 08-23-2011, 04:43 PM

Google Adwords, Craigs List, the more valuable they are as a traffic source, the more restrictive they have become. Traffic is getting more difficult and expensive to drive.

harryhumph · 08-23-2011, 07:02 PM

If you use craigslist right, They are the BEST QUALITY leads out there,, If not, they are the WORST..

All i can say is tell your affiliate manager what method you are using, and let him decide

Rogbog · 08-23-2011, 09:38 PM

Craigslist is one of they things that have been tried anf tried before.

jeffrey73 · 08-23-2011, 11:05 PM

I've never met anyone that thought CL had great quality leads, let alone the BEST. Even if they made $1,000 a day there. LOL

Quote:

Originally Posted by harryhumph

If you use craigslist right, They are the BEST QUALITY leads out there,, If not, they are the WORST..

Jonathan Price · 08-24-2011, 07:14 AM

Most people who use CL > CPA are using BH techniques, which means the leads are bad quality, so the affiliate network obviously doesn't want them.

09-07-2010, 02:45 AM	#1
Blade Runner 88 Blade Runner 88 War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Auckland, NZ. Posts: 346 Thanks: 162 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Craigslist, why not? I see various comments that Craigs list doesn't like cpa or banners or something about them, and sometimes in my offer information at EWA that the clients don't want info that comes from CraigsList. I don't understand what this is all about, can someone explain? thanks BR88

09-07-2010, 07:25 AM	#2
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09-07-2010, 04:25 PM	#9
Blade Runner 88 Blade Runner 88 War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Auckland, NZ. Posts: 346 Thanks: 162 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Craigslist, why not? Thanks everyone, really interesting. I hadn't been considering CraigsList for myself, not yet anyway, it just seemed odd that an obvious traffic stream wasn't being fished, or had warnings 'no fishing', (lol, no, I'm not referring to phishing), I'll have a look over their TOS too. I'm a believer in doing my homework, it makes life so much easier. cheers BR

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jeffrey73 AdCopyAssault.com War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,073 Thanks: 1,249 Thanked 450 Times in 374 Posts	Re: Craigslist, why not? Craigslist is "ghost" happy these days. If you plop up a direct link, piss off their users, or act anyway like a commercial marketer, they want you out of there. Internet and Affiliate marketers are not welcome. If you think Google hates affiliates then Craigslist hates them 100x more. Real businesses are fine, but they pretty much consider affiliates the same as spammers. To use it effectively you have to be very sly in how you do things. I would never link to a review page or affiliate offer unless it was a "hard" product for sale. In other words, people can physically have it sent to their house or pick it up. If you want to run a CPA offer, you should set up an auto-responder and make sure to be giving them something relevant to the category you are posting in. Auto-responders will also help you to avoid getting "flagged", although you'll never be able to stop it completely, it will cut it down greatly. Get "flagged" a lot of times and they'll nail your account.
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Blade Runner 88 Blade Runner 88 War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Auckland, NZ. Posts: 346 Thanks: 162 Thanked 19 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Craigslist, why not? I was thinking this over ... what about other classified type sites such as USfreeads. Have they had similar problems with being spammed with cpa ads masquerading as ordinary classifieds, as Craigslist did? I ask because I've noticed very few cautions about using cpa with them, unlike cautions about Craigslist, which are all over. Perhaps Craigslist was vulnerable through being the first classified site and therefore unprepared for the onslaught.

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dammitmailer in the game War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Miami Posts: 5 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Contact Info	Re: Craigslist, why not? I run CL ads for some cpl stuff, but as was already mentioned, you need to set up an autoresponder and not direct link. Also, you need to be picky about the offers you promote and make sure you have a good relationship with your AM. The volume is nowhere near what it used to be for us, so it's not a big focus anymore thanks to all the bad mojo from the misleading crap that went on and got cracked down on.

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Jonathan Price Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 76 Thanks: 3 Thanked 14 Times in 14 Posts	Re: Craigslist, why not? Most people who use CL > CPA are using BH techniques, which means the leads are bad quality, so the affiliate network obviously doesn't want them.