3 impressions and a sale!!!

harrysidhu · 09-11-2010, 01:01 PM

okay guys i have been doing ppv and after only 3 impressions i made 25 bucks now i know what keyword got me the sale but how can i scale that. The keyword itself doesn't have a high search volume i get maybe 3-7 impressions a day so how would the experts scale from here?

RichieRich313 · 09-11-2010, 01:15 PM

Make sure to sign up with MSN and yahoo and use that keyword with their servers. Also try and squeak another keyword close or use that keyword with 1 0r 2 more words.

harrysidhu · 09-11-2010, 01:19 PM

can i direct link with msn and yahoo? or have redirecting domain?

Ripped · 09-11-2010, 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harrysidhu

okay guys i have been doing ppv and after only 3 impressions i made 25 bucks now i know what keyword got me the sale but how can i scale that. The keyword itself doesn't have a high search volume i get maybe 3-7 impressions a day so how would the experts scale from here?

Try other similar keywords and add related URLs.

Some won't convert, so you'll have to do some optimizing. Don't be afraid to lose some money to scale this thing. If it converts well, just remove the non-converting keywords/url and you could be making a nice buck.

Also, sign up to other PPV networks and run the same keywords/urls. Each PPV network will probably have different conversion rates. The same keywords might convert for one network, and not convert for another.

harrysidhu · 09-11-2010, 02:31 PM

one question how do i use tracking 202 to track my campaign, its a direct link, or should i use something else?

RichieRich313 · 09-11-2010, 03:10 PM

Pending on what network your cpa offer is you can put a pixel or add something to your hoplink to track it. Theres alot of different **** you can do and or programs you can use to track stuff. And if your using a cpa offer use a banner and contextual network to get the most out of your impressions.

RichieRich313 · 09-11-2010, 03:13 PM

Or you can use the bit.ly way and with direct linking you can change your link to anything you want plus it tracks everything. Check it! bit.ly.com

EdwardDennis · 09-11-2010, 06:00 PM

You dont need to buy any domain if you're direct linking. Use t202, put the Affiliate URL on t202, choose direct link, and t202 will give you new URL, which you'll use as destination URL.

It's too early to draw any conclusion. Let it run for a couple more days. Hope it helps.

harrysidhu · 09-12-2010, 02:40 PM

the thing is that the search volume is just too low i get like 10 impressions a day from the keyword that converted and i guess ill start to promote it on other networks. Also i guess i can use the same technique for other similar cpa offers too.

OnlineMarketingSys · 09-12-2010, 03:44 PM

You really need more traffic and conversion data, before deciding either way. There are certainly times where, you get more of a "fluke" than anything and you just happened to put a product infront of someone who has already done quite a bit of research...

If your conversion rates still hold true, work with the account manager and see if there is more traffic you can get for that keyword term. Also look for similar related keywords that have more traffic,ect.

harrysidhu · 09-12-2010, 05:58 PM

do i have to use keyword pass through on lead impact, with my tracking202 redirect tracking link or do i just use the new link? thanks.

ChrisBa · 09-12-2010, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harrysidhu

okay guys i have been doing ppv and after only 3 impressions i made 25 bucks now i know what keyword got me the sale but how can i scale that. The keyword itself doesn't have a high search volume i get maybe 3-7 impressions a day so how would the experts scale from here?

It's hard to say without knowing the keyword, can you expand on the keyword?

xxdksxx · 09-12-2010, 07:54 PM

Congrats on the first sale!

Kenster · 09-12-2010, 08:55 PM

Hey, wouldnt it be great if your conversion rate was consistently at 33%!!!

Anywho, normally you would first expand horizontally in your keyword exploration. In this situation these will probably be other low search volume high conversion keywords.

You will also need to broaden your keywords a bit and test the conversion with these keywords. Remember, conversion might go down, but if you are pushing more volume at a lower conversion rate you can still make a lot more money. If you can turn these broader keywords profitable, then expand on those.

Its hard to give more specific advice without more specific data but hopefully that will help a bit!

~ken

harrysidhu · 09-12-2010, 09:27 PM

thanks kenster always great to hear what you have to say, i just created another campaign with a similar product but a lot more keywords, ill see how that goes and track it until i can make it profitable.

Mário Gomes · 09-12-2010, 10:54 PM

Hi Harry,

If you know the keyword that converted, you can always take it and run another cpv campaign with another cpv network.

There are 3 networks I recommend: Trafficvance, Lead Impact and Media Traffic.

If you manage to mantain your convertion rate consistent, then you can easily double or triple the traffic just by scaling the campaign to other networks.

hope this helps,
Mario

harrysidhu · 09-13-2010, 10:56 AM

ill see what happens might as well keep trying until something works

Kenster · 09-13-2010, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by harrysidhu

thanks kenster always great to hear what you have to say, i just created another campaign with a similar product but a lot more keywords, ill see how that goes and track it until i can make it profitable.

Keep pimpin it out and let the power of numbers work. Only stop when you start seeing the much feared power of diminishing returns

harrysidhu · 09-13-2010, 03:46 PM

im not afraid to lose money of that means the in the future ill have more consistent and higher profit margins, but i have a good feeling about this.

davidmeeonline · 09-14-2010, 01:52 AM

Hi Harry

I had a similar situation, where i had two $30 conversions in the first 10 impressions, so I ran it and broadened the keywords etc, etc, and never had another conversion since! Not sure what happened there, but thats the way it goes!
Hopefully yours is a winner!
URL's related to your converting keyword can be a good thing to try, sometimes that found me some very nice conversions! (PPV Den has a great free url scraper)

harrysidhu · 09-14-2010, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by davidmeeonline

Hi Harry

I had a similar situation, where i had two $30 conversions in the first 10 impressions, so I ran it and broadened the keywords etc, etc, and never had another conversion since! Not sure what happened there, but thats the way it goes!
Hopefully yours is a winner!
URL's related to your converting keyword can be a good thing to try, sometimes that found me some very nice conversions! (PPV Den has a great free url scraper)

haha your on the right track if the right urls and keywords are chosen its not too hard to make some money

JoseArmando · 09-14-2010, 02:30 PM

You need to do more testing... More traffic more keywords.

Justin Stowe · 09-15-2010, 01:26 AM

Nice!

Good luck on scaling it- kinda like David said, I've had a few camps get like a 50% or 33% conversion rate at first... then when I started to scale (or even before I got o that) it came down to about a 5-10%....

Still not bad, but just be aware that it happens :-)

harrysidhu · 09-15-2010, 02:49 PM

i would be happy with 5-10% conversion

Kenster · 09-16-2010, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AYoungMillionaire

Nice!

Good luck on scaling it- kinda like David said, I've had a few camps get like a 50% or 33% conversion rate at first... then when I started to scale (or even before I got o that) it came down to about a 5-10%....

Still not bad, but just be aware that it happens :-)

Its all about having enough data for statistical relevancy. If you get two impressions and two sales you can't claim you have a 100% conversion rate landing page because there isnt statistical relevancy to justify such a statement.

I see people making generalizations all the time without enough statistical data to support such statements!

~ken

Mike Morgan. · 09-17-2010, 05:22 AM

If you want to scale it , first understand your keyword .

Then you can try bidding on similar keywords .

Make also sure to bid on URLs.

Mike

topfree · 09-17-2010, 04:02 PM

Research similar keywords with google keyword tool and pick a couple that have high searches per month but not that much competition.

harrysidhu · 09-18-2010, 12:55 PM

is this normal for msn ads that i put my cpc at 1 dollar and i wake up and see that i have a 3 clicks costing me 5 bucks lol? that doesn't add up and the ctr rate for msn is pretty bad so far as i have seen

09-11-2010, 01:01 PM	#1
harrysidhu Harry Sidhu Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: From Vancouver Canada Posts: 317 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	3 impressions and a sale!!! okay guys i have been doing ppv and after only 3 impressions i made 25 bucks now i know what keyword got me the sale but how can i scale that. The keyword itself doesn't have a high search volume i get maybe 3-7 impressions a day so how would the experts scale from here?
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09-11-2010, 01:15 PM	#2
RichieRich313 Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Detroit City Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking Contact Info	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! Make sure to sign up with MSN and yahoo and use that keyword with their servers. Also try and squeak another keyword close or use that keyword with 1 0r 2 more words.
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09-11-2010, 01:19 PM	#3
harrysidhu Harry Sidhu Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: From Vancouver Canada Posts: 317 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! can i direct link with msn and yahoo? or have redirecting domain?
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09-11-2010, 02:31 PM	#5
harrysidhu Harry Sidhu Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: From Vancouver Canada Posts: 317 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! one question how do i use tracking 202 to track my campaign, its a direct link, or should i use something else?
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09-11-2010, 03:10 PM	#6
RichieRich313 Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Detroit City Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking Contact Info	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! Pending on what network your cpa offer is you can put a pixel or add something to your hoplink to track it. Theres alot of different **** you can do and or programs you can use to track stuff. And if your using a cpa offer use a banner and contextual network to get the most out of your impressions.
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09-11-2010, 03:13 PM	#7
RichieRich313 Warrior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Detroit City Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking Contact Info	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! Or you can use the bit.ly way and with direct linking you can change your link to anything you want plus it tracks everything. Check it! bit.ly.com
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09-11-2010, 06:00 PM	#8
EdwardDennis HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 445 Thanks: 19 Thanked 58 Times in 46 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! You dont need to buy any domain if you're direct linking. Use t202, put the Affiliate URL on t202, choose direct link, and t202 will give you new URL, which you'll use as destination URL. It's too early to draw any conclusion. Let it run for a couple more days. Hope it helps.

09-12-2010, 02:40 PM	#9
harrysidhu Harry Sidhu Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: From Vancouver Canada Posts: 317 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! the thing is that the search volume is just too low i get like 10 impressions a day from the keyword that converted and i guess ill start to promote it on other networks. Also i guess i can use the same technique for other similar cpa offers too.
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09-12-2010, 03:44 PM	#10
OnlineMarketingSys Kevin Kelly War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 574 Thanks: 78 Thanked 74 Times in 60 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! You really need more traffic and conversion data, before deciding either way. There are certainly times where, you get more of a "fluke" than anything and you just happened to put a product infront of someone who has already done quite a bit of research... If your conversion rates still hold true, work with the account manager and see if there is more traffic you can get for that keyword term. Also look for similar related keywords that have more traffic,ect.
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09-12-2010, 05:58 PM	#11
harrysidhu Harry Sidhu Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: From Vancouver Canada Posts: 317 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! do i have to use keyword pass through on lead impact, with my tracking202 redirect tracking link or do i just use the new link? thanks.
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09-12-2010, 07:54 PM	#13
xxdksxx Dillon Steele War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Richmond, Indiana Posts: 285 Thanks: 23 Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! Congrats on the first sale!

09-12-2010, 08:55 PM	#14
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,111 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 672 Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! Hey, wouldnt it be great if your conversion rate was consistently at 33%!!! Anywho, normally you would first expand horizontally in your keyword exploration. In this situation these will probably be other low search volume high conversion keywords. You will also need to broaden your keywords a bit and test the conversion with these keywords. Remember, conversion might go down, but if you are pushing more volume at a lower conversion rate you can still make a lot more money. If you can turn these broader keywords profitable, then expand on those. Its hard to give more specific advice without more specific data but hopefully that will help a bit! ~ken
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09-12-2010, 09:27 PM	#15
harrysidhu Harry Sidhu Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: From Vancouver Canada Posts: 317 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! thanks kenster always great to hear what you have to say, i just created another campaign with a similar product but a lot more keywords, ill see how that goes and track it until i can make it profitable.
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09-12-2010, 10:54 PM	#16
Mário Gomes WF is my ATM War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Portugal Posts: 514 Thanks: 48 Thanked 27 Times in 21 Posts Contact Info	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! Hi Harry, If you know the keyword that converted, you can always take it and run another cpv campaign with another cpv network. There are 3 networks I recommend: Trafficvance, Lead Impact and Media Traffic. If you manage to mantain your convertion rate consistent, then you can easily double or triple the traffic just by scaling the campaign to other networks. hope this helps, Mario
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09-13-2010, 10:56 AM	#17
harrysidhu Harry Sidhu Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: From Vancouver Canada Posts: 317 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! ill see what happens might as well keep trying until something works
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09-13-2010, 03:46 PM	#19
harrysidhu Harry Sidhu Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: From Vancouver Canada Posts: 317 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! im not afraid to lose money of that means the in the future ill have more consistent and higher profit margins, but i have a good feeling about this.
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09-14-2010, 01:52 AM	#20
davidmeeonline HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Perth, Australia Posts: 231 Thanks: 69 Thanked 43 Times in 35 Posts Contact Info	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! Hi Harry I had a similar situation, where i had two $30 conversions in the first 10 impressions, so I ran it and broadened the keywords etc, etc, and never had another conversion since! Not sure what happened there, but thats the way it goes! Hopefully yours is a winner! URL's related to your converting keyword can be a good thing to try, sometimes that found me some very nice conversions! (PPV Den has a great free url scraper)
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09-15-2010, 01:26 AM	#23
Justin Stowe JustinStowe.com War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Middle Georgia Posts: 1,793 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 694 Thanked 448 Times in 290 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! Nice! Good luck on scaling it- kinda like David said, I've had a few camps get like a 50% or 33% conversion rate at first... then when I started to scale (or even before I got o that) it came down to about a 5-10%.... Still not bad, but just be aware that it happens :-)
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09-15-2010, 02:49 PM	#24
harrysidhu Harry Sidhu Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: From Vancouver Canada Posts: 317 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! i would be happy with 5-10% conversion
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09-17-2010, 05:22 AM	#26
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09-17-2010, 04:02 PM	#27
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09-18-2010, 12:55 PM	#28
harrysidhu Harry Sidhu Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: From Vancouver Canada Posts: 317 Thanks: 0 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts	Re: 3 impressions and a sale!!! is this normal for msn ads that i put my cpc at 1 dollar and i wake up and see that i have a 3 clicks costing me 5 bucks lol? that doesn't add up and the ctr rate for msn is pretty bad so far as i have seen
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