Does anyone use Blackhat on here?

Imran Naseem · 11-08-2008, 05:33 AM

Does anyone use Blackhat CPA techniques on here?

Thanks

Jeff Usher · 11-08-2008, 02:40 PM

Imran,

From what I've read, and judging by the lack of response so far to your question, the CPA world is completely Black Hat at the moment. But noone will tell you the secrets for fear of being found out .... Catch-22 situation really.

Just my 0.02c

Jeff

Imran Naseem · 11-08-2008, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Usher

Imran,

From what I've read, and judging by the lack of response so far to your question, the CPA world is completely Black Hat at the moment. But noone will tell you the secrets for fear of being found out .... Catch-22 situation really.

Just my 0.02c

Jeff

Thanks Jeff - I have to agree with you on this one 100%.

I have tried blackhat myself and I will hold my head up high and not lie.

joe0074 · 11-08-2008, 04:36 PM

I feel so guilty when using Blackhat.
I feel like I'm a scammer who ripped people off for money.
I prefer to use whitehat only.
I believe there are lots of people out there feeling the same way like me.

Imran Naseem · 11-08-2008, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe0074

I feel so guilty when using Blackhat.
I feel like I'm a scammer who ripped people off for money.
I prefer to use whitehat only.
I believe there are lots of people out there feeling the same way like me.

Blackhat is not scamming, its just "bending the rules" slightly.

It depends what form of blackhat you use...

debra · 11-08-2008, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe0074

I feel so guilty when using Blackhat.
I feel like I'm a scammer who ripped people off for money.
I prefer to use whitehat only.
I believe there are lots of people out there feeling the same way like me.

Most ppl don't even know what BlackHat really is.

If you feel like a scammer or that your using deceptive marketing...Then your not using blackhat.

Blackhat is Not about scamming or deceptive practices. It is about taking advantage of creative marketing to a new level. Usually it's marketing practice that is not yet defined in the terms and conditions of any particular merchant or system.

Some of you think that gaining one way backlinks is a normal way of business...in the BlackHat circles it's still called "link spamming".

Do I know of real Blackhat techniques? I ain't tellin' and I doubt anyone that knows the difference and practices blackhat techniques will ever expose it on any scale. Those that do...only decieve you into "Believing" that it is blackhat.

Now...that's my 2cents.

joe0074 · 11-08-2008, 09:04 PM

In CPA world, we want people to take action what we offer.
Most of the blackhat methods try to mislead people to take action without being aware of it.
Isn't that a scam ?

teenmoney · 11-08-2008, 10:05 PM

I use some Blackhat techniques....
haha one of my favorite quotes about black hat is:

Blackhat is just as hard as whitehat, but blackhat works.

Much of blackhat is finding the motivation of people to do things like fill out an offer and then taking advantage of it. Find something that would make people submit their zipcode and then find a way to get them to do it.

Noel2010 · 11-08-2008, 10:08 PM

That is a question most people will not answer. But anyone reading this, please let me know your techniques.

lexilexi · 11-09-2008, 06:08 AM

This is an interesting thread.

The thing is, the offer is the same, regardless of the method you use to get people to view it?

And with a CPA offer, people make their decision whether or not to buy it regardless of what caused them to click the link in the first place... It's my understanding that BH is about generating traffic... am I on the right track?
If so, black or white hat is really about how many eyeballs you can get, and how cunning you are prepared to be to get those eyeballs.
But I think if people want to be ethical, they should research whether the CPA product they are promoting actually works first and has genuine value.... and take it from there.

John34 · 11-09-2008, 06:48 AM

Interesting thread,some guys are right here,blackhat is not scamming,its finding a loophole in system and exploiting it for max profits,i also agree most of the blackhat stuff is going in CPA industry.Infact i personally know 2 DP member (Ernest and getjimmy) that make good money with blackhat methods.

Sandy J Brown · 11-09-2008, 08:28 AM

Well I am doing... And Already Making Good Money... Its always good to Mix BlackhHatCPA with WhiteHat Signups/Traffic...

* Get a Good Website with Traffic
* Sent Traffic to ur Landing page, Do not sent them directly to CPA Offers
* Stay under the Radar.. don't be Greedy (Don't pass 1000$ Per Month)

Imran Naseem · 11-09-2008, 08:38 AM

The reason I ask is I am making around $300-$400 a day on this new method I discovered and it cannot be saturated too...

Sandy J Brown · 11-09-2008, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imran Naseem

The reason I ask is I am making around $300-$400 a day on this new method I discovered and it cannot be saturated too...

Thats CoOl.. You can multiply it & use on Different CPA Networks.. I must say again Stay under the Radar..

if you keep doing BlackHat on a Single CPA Offer/CPA Network. Chances are they will catch u.. (MaxBounty Cought me when i passed $2000/month)

So if you are on 4 CPA Networks. Split it & earn 1000$ from each network, NOT 4000$ from One.

Imran Naseem · 11-09-2008, 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy J Brown

Thats CoOl.. You can multiply it & use on Different CPA Networks.. I must say again Stay under the Radar..

if you keep doing BlackHat on a Single CPA Offer/CPA Network. Chances are they will catch u.. (MaxBounty Cought me when i passed $2000/month)

So if you are on 4 CPA Networks. Split it & earn 1000$ from each network, NOT 4000$ from One.

Yes I know I signed up to several anyway and I have a great relationship
with my Affiliate manager

Kyle L Hannah · 11-09-2008, 01:45 PM

Once you go black you NEVER go back

John34 · 11-09-2008, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imran Naseem

The reason I ask is I am making around $300-$400 a day on this new method I discovered and it cannot be saturated too...

Is this the same method u r selling as an WSO?

MarcusXavier · 11-09-2008, 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe0074

In CPA world, we want people to take action what we offer.
Most of the blackhat methods try to mislead people to take action without being aware of it.
Isn't that a scam ?

If you are going to get all bent out of shape about it then why do it? Just do what your comfortable with.

Blackhat marketing has so many misconceptions. It's not scamming and it's not illegal.

To answer the question of this thread - Yes. I use Blackhat marketing techniques a lot. Some more "dark" than others. But I have never done anything illegal or scammed anybody out of their money. And they work great to say the least.

Now with that being said, I use a lot of Whitehat methods, too. It's all personal preference guys. And as bad as this may sound, I'm making money online for one purpose only, to make money. That's it. Some may call me an ass for being so blunt, but you have to think about it. I know that there are a TON other guys out there trying to make money as well. Now with the way that the economy is going worldwide, more people are storming online to find a way to make money.

If you aren't prepared to do what needs to be done, then your competitors will and believe me, they don't care about you. They will walk right over you if they can. That's the way marketing is.

Just my 2 cents.

11-08-2008, 05:33 AM	#1
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11-08-2008, 02:40 PM	#2
Jeff Usher Mr Negativity Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bristol, United Kingdom Posts: 1,329 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking	Re: Does anyone use Blackhat on here? Imran, From what I've read, and judging by the lack of response so far to your question, the CPA world is completely Black Hat at the moment. But noone will tell you the secrets for fear of being found out .... Catch-22 situation really. Just my 0.02c Jeff
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11-08-2008, 04:36 PM	#4
joe0074 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Does anyone use Blackhat on here? I feel so guilty when using Blackhat. I feel like I'm a scammer who ripped people off for money. I prefer to use whitehat only. I believe there are lots of people out there feeling the same way like me.

11-08-2008, 09:04 PM	#7
joe0074 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 148 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Does anyone use Blackhat on here? In CPA world, we want people to take action what we offer. Most of the blackhat methods try to mislead people to take action without being aware of it. Isn't that a scam ?

11-08-2008, 10:05 PM	#8
teenmoney Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 54 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Does anyone use Blackhat on here? I use some Blackhat techniques.... haha one of my favorite quotes about black hat is: Blackhat is just as hard as whitehat, but blackhat works. Much of blackhat is finding the motivation of people to do things like fill out an offer and then taking advantage of it. Find something that would make people submit their zipcode and then find a way to get them to do it.
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11-08-2008, 10:08 PM	#9
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11-09-2008, 06:08 AM	#10
lexilexi Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 67 Thanks: 24 Thanked 7 Times in 6 Posts Social Networking	Re: Does anyone use Blackhat on here? This is an interesting thread. The thing is, the offer is the same, regardless of the method you use to get people to view it? And with a CPA offer, people make their decision whether or not to buy it regardless of what caused them to click the link in the first place... It's my understanding that BH is about generating traffic... am I on the right track? If so, black or white hat is really about how many eyeballs you can get, and how cunning you are prepared to be to get those eyeballs. But I think if people want to be ethical, they should research whether the CPA product they are promoting actually works first and has genuine value.... and take it from there.
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11-09-2008, 06:48 AM	#11
John34 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: , , . Posts: 355 Thanks: 13 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Does anyone use Blackhat on here? Interesting thread,some guys are right here,blackhat is not scamming,its finding a loophole in system and exploiting it for max profits,i also agree most of the blackhat stuff is going in CPA industry.Infact i personally know 2 DP member (Ernest and getjimmy) that make good money with blackhat methods.

11-09-2008, 08:28 AM	#12
Sandy J Brown Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 6 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Does anyone use Blackhat on here? Well I am doing... And Already Making Good Money... Its always good to Mix BlackhHatCPA with WhiteHat Signups/Traffic... * Get a Good Website with Traffic * Sent Traffic to ur Landing page, Do not sent them directly to CPA Offers * Stay under the Radar.. don't be Greedy (Don't pass 1000$ Per Month)

11-09-2008, 08:38 AM	#13
Imran Naseem Slumdog Millionaire.. Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lancashire, United Kingdom Posts: 2,277 Thanks: 163 Thanked 72 Times in 43 Posts Social Networking	Re: Does anyone use Blackhat on here? The reason I ask is I am making around $300-$400 a day on this new method I discovered and it cannot be saturated too...
	My IM Blog BLACKHAT "BUZZ" 2009 NEW YEAR METHOD - MAKE $100+ DAY ON AUTOPILOT NEW BLACKHAT TECHNIQUE THAT CAN MAKE $200+ A DAY EASILY - NEVER BEEN SOLD BEFORE

11-09-2008, 01:45 PM	#16
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