Markethealth Tracking Issues

june26 · 10-01-2010, 11:46 PM

MH sales are down 99% over the past few weeks. According to what im seeing their tracking system has taken a huge kick in the rear.

I cant believe that since Aug my conversions have fallen 90%. I do believe they keep touching the scripts and we are not getting credit for the sales that we deserve due to programming blunders.

Anyone else seeing this? Has anyone emiled Garry Mc N. about it? Or are there other reasons?

I find it hard to believe that landing pages that convert so well for me are not converting anymore. I dont believe it for a second. There are only two reasons why my conversions have dropped.

1) Tracking script issues
2) Shaving 100%

Ill go with the 1) for now and give them the benefit of the doubt.

RyanEagle · 10-02-2010, 12:56 AM

If your promoting markethealth offers off the bat, you're already losing 99% of your sales when it's tracking correctly. Why not convert over to trial offers?

june26 · 10-02-2010, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanEagle

If your promoting markethealth offers off the bat, you're already losing 99% of your sales when it's tracking correctly. Why not convert over to trial offers?

Because all the trails i have tried dont convert. I have never been lucky with trial offers and i think most people are weary of those type of products. In any event, i am pushing one trial thats not MH and its a losey convert period.

jeffrey73 · 10-02-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by june26

Because all the trails i have tried dont convert. I have never been lucky with trial offers and i think most people are weary of those type of products. In any event, i am pushing one trial thats not MH and its a losey convert period.

You need to build a list and put the offer on the back-end of your email follow-ups after giving away a good amount of free stuff first!

Yeah people are weary of that stuff, that's why you have to gain a lot of trust before you slap them with an offer.

rvrabel2002 · 10-02-2010, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by june26

MH sales are down 99% over the past few weeks. According to what im seeing their tracking system has taken a huge kick in the rear.

I cant believe that since Aug my conversions have fallen 90%. I do believe they keep touching the scripts and we are not getting credit for the sales that we deserve due to programming blunders.

Anyone else seeing this? Has anyone emiled Garry Mc N. about it? Or are there other reasons?

I find it hard to believe that landing pages that convert so well for me are not converting anymore. I dont believe it for a second. There are only two reasons why my conversions have dropped.

1) Tracking script issues
2) Shaving 100%

Ill go with the 1) for now and give them the benefit of the doubt.

I totally agree with this....My conversions have dropped significantly. I had one offer converting at a solid 8%....now, its hovering around 1%.

They must be shaving the hell out of the offers....But, thats ok....It will bite them in the ass in the long run. Touche Market Health, way to think about your long term interests.

keblack · 10-02-2010, 10:33 PM

Is there an affiliate network that has similar products as them that isn't a problem ?

mikekimm · 10-03-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by june26

Because all the trails i have tried dont convert. I have never been lucky with trial offers and i think most people are weary of those type of products. In any event, i am pushing one trial thats not MH and its a losey convert period.

You probably run crappy offers. A Good Acai offer will yield conversions of 9-13%, and a good colon offer can convert upwards of 20%. You see the ads all over the internet, click them and see the network the person is running through and contact them, thats the good offer (good offers change every 6 weeks it seems BTW)

I always wondered why people would run MH offers when other offers outperform them all the time.

Also never think when marketing to people.... test, and analyze data what you think doesnt matter ever, your thoughts will be your downfall.

thebrewer · 10-05-2010, 05:08 AM

Hi there I am a bit late to the party here but I have had issues with MH too. They don't inform you when they make changes to the offers.

If you are marketing "free trials" on MH the actual billing page is different. The price you pay for S&H is now on there rather than a bit fat $0.00. Also the S&H is sometimes on the "express" cost.

If you are selling a completely free trial this may hurt you. I have been with MH for a while and over time my conversion have definitely dropped and I must admit I do sometimes think there is something fishy.

The fact of the matter is that I believe they have had to change continually to stay in business. Credit card companies are getting tougher and many health affiliates (such as Herbal Revue) have either dropped offers (which may have converted higher) or gone out of business altogether.

The CPA business model is always hit and miss and it does require constant change to keep it fresh. If you don't like MH anymore then there are other networks out there.

This business is all about trial and error and constant change.

That is just my two cents anyway.

healthstatus · 10-05-2010, 08:05 AM

I have had a health website for more than 12 years now and historically, people are not as interested in health issues from September - December. Swimsuit season is over so the diet isn't that important, kids are going back to school, holidays are coming (and people want to eat not diet). You can get a bump in November and December if you sell health items that can be gifts.

That being said, a 99% drop is pretty high, I would expect a 30-40% drop.

10-01-2010, 11:46 PM	#1
june26 Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 28 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 4 Posts	Markethealth Tracking Issues MH sales are down 99% over the past few weeks. According to what im seeing their tracking system has taken a huge kick in the rear. I cant believe that since Aug my conversions have fallen 90%. I do believe they keep touching the scripts and we are not getting credit for the sales that we deserve due to programming blunders. Anyone else seeing this? Has anyone emiled Garry Mc N. about it? Or are there other reasons? I find it hard to believe that landing pages that convert so well for me are not converting anymore. I dont believe it for a second. There are only two reasons why my conversions have dropped. 1) Tracking script issues 2) Shaving 100% Ill go with the 1) for now and give them the benefit of the doubt.

10-02-2010, 12:56 AM	#2
RyanEagle I'll Make You Rich Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 693 Thanks: 7 Thanked 94 Times in 76 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Markethealth Tracking Issues If your promoting markethealth offers off the bat, you're already losing 99% of your sales when it's tracking correctly. Why not convert over to trial offers?
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10-02-2010, 10:33 PM	#6
keblack Ken Black War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 522 Thanks: 11 Thanked 76 Times in 69 Posts Social Networking	Re: Markethealth Tracking Issues Is there an affiliate network that has similar products as them that isn't a problem ?
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10-05-2010, 05:08 AM	#8
thebrewer Warrior Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: England Posts: 29 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Social Networking	Re: Markethealth Tracking Issues Hi there I am a bit late to the party here but I have had issues with MH too. They don't inform you when they make changes to the offers. If you are marketing "free trials" on MH the actual billing page is different. The price you pay for S&H is now on there rather than a bit fat $0.00. Also the S&H is sometimes on the "express" cost. If you are selling a completely free trial this may hurt you. I have been with MH for a while and over time my conversion have definitely dropped and I must admit I do sometimes think there is something fishy. The fact of the matter is that I believe they have had to change continually to stay in business. Credit card companies are getting tougher and many health affiliates (such as Herbal Revue) have either dropped offers (which may have converted higher) or gone out of business altogether. The CPA business model is always hit and miss and it does require constant change to keep it fresh. If you don't like MH anymore then there are other networks out there. This business is all about trial and error and constant change. That is just my two cents anyway.

10-05-2010, 08:05 AM	#9
healthstatus Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 62 Thanks: 7 Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Markethealth Tracking Issues I have had a health website for more than 12 years now and historically, people are not as interested in health issues from September - December. Swimsuit season is over so the diet isn't that important, kids are going back to school, holidays are coming (and people want to eat not diet). You can get a bump in November and December if you sell health items that can be gifts. That being said, a 99% drop is pretty high, I would expect a 30-40% drop.
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