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Old 10-07-2010, 07:20 AM   #1
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What you think about that?



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Old 10-07-2010, 07:33 AM   #2
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Guys

I agree that merchants tend to reject more leads/sales than they should. It increases their profits ... which is essentially stealing from affiliates.

However, hoaxes, invalid numbers, etc are all part of the game, especially in the lead generation business. Nobody likes to have leads being rejected a week or two later, but if the number is dead or the person just entered FAKE details, then yes it should be done.

But I also believe the NETWORK has a responsibility towards their affiliates, looking out for THEM just as they look out for merchants paying on time and at high margins.

This game ain't a one-way street you know But I can live with my rejections, still banking 5 figures a month so ...

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Old 10-07-2010, 07:37 AM   #3
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The merchant is clearly redirecting legit paid traffic from the U.S. from affiliates to a different offer to his own affiliate id.

So what your showing here frank is that it seems to be using U.S. geo targeting on the merchants landing page.

Conclusion

Merchant makes money
affiliate network makes money either way so they wont care

Affiliates are wasting money to feed the 2 above

To all affiliates these cpa networks are not there to make you money there there to make themselves rich from your hard work.

Alternatives

do clickbank builed a list do other CPS that do not envolve networks that dont respect the affiliates

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Old 10-07-2010, 07:44 AM   #4
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Guys

I agree that merchants tend to reject more leads/sales than they should. It increases their profits ... which is essentially stealing from affiliates.

However, hoaxes, invalid numbers, etc are all part of the game, especially in the lead generation business. Nobody likes to have leads being rejected a week or two later, but if the number is dead or the person just entered FAKE details, then yes it should be done.

But I also believe the NETWORK has a responsibility towards their affiliates, looking out for THEM just as they look out for merchants paying on time and at high margins.

This game ain't a one-way street you know But I can live with my rejections, still banking 5 figures a month so ...

Nick
watch the video its nothing to do with scrubbing its more to do with merchants redirecting U.S. traffic to other offers regionally

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Old 10-08-2010, 07:01 AM   #5
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Default Its the merchant not the affiliate network

I want to make an observation here regarding this post so people can understand it clearly.

This is done by the merchant and not by the affiliate network he could redirect traffic to any offer on any network.

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Old 10-08-2010, 08:33 AM   #6
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I found another example of somebody hijacking
parts of my paid traffic.

Have a look


whats your opinion on that?

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Old 10-08-2010, 06:13 PM   #7
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Guys is this possible? Frankly I don't really understand who is stealing whose traffic and I see that EWA is in the picture.
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Old 10-09-2010, 11:50 AM   #8
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It happened to me as well for some email submits with ewa, it was redirecting to iq quiz.
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Old 10-10-2010, 09:53 PM   #9
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It happened to me as well for some email submits with ewa, it was redirecting to iq quiz.
The offer probably got pulled by the merchant, or it expired. It's happened to me too with various offers, but it happens all the time.

That's why you are supposed to be testing your links before running paid traffic to the offer, and rotating offers assuming something may happen. It's kind of common sense.

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It sounds like you need to stop running with whatever networks you are driving traffic to currently, and test out a few others that won't switch links on the backend on you.

Some tips for you going forward:

1) Always test your link before launching a new campaign. This will ensure you that you are directly traffic to the correct offer. Advertisers pull offers without telling networks all the time, but if it's going to the page it's supposed to, you shouldn't have any issues.

2) Once live, test your links every day to make sure they are still going to the correct pages.

3) Before picking up a campaign, ask your affiliate manager if the offer is still valid, and if other affiliates are running it successfully (ie, no tracking issues that you are encountering above).
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Old 10-11-2010, 09:59 AM   #11
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This video does not show anything besides a geographical redirect for international clicks, done by the advertiser utilizing our technology to better help monetize their stray clicks accidental sent by other networks and affiliates.

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Old 10-12-2010, 03:17 PM   #12
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The video is not showing up anymore but if what if what Ryan said is true, there should be no problem. My (small) network does the same, we group offers into similar categories and if you send Canadian traffic to a US-only offer, they are automatically redirected to an offer in the group who will accept Canadian traffic. These redirects credit conversions to the affiliate, not the advertiser, by the way (for us at least).
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The video is not showing up anymore but if what if what Ryan said is true, there should be no problem. My (small) network does the same, we group offers into similar categories and if you send Canadian traffic to a US-only offer, they are automatically redirected to an offer in the group who will accept Canadian traffic. These redirects credit conversions to the affiliate, not the advertiser, by the way (for us at least).
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with ewa redirects offer conversions are not credited to the affiliate.
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Old 10-13-2010, 11:52 PM   #14
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More often that not when you run network-to-network traffic (syndicating) the offering network has less than optimal communication with the promoting network in regard to what offers are being paused, discontinued, etc.

So what happens is the promoting network pulls the offer and redirects it to another offer without letting the promoting network know about it. The affiliates usually find the issue on the promoting network. It makes for a 'bad feeling' because it gives the sense of disorganization from the promoting network - when it actuality the offering network is the one not communicating.

When this happens there is no way to credit it back to the affiliate in an automated way. This type of stuff happens a lot of the time believe it or not - on a lot of networks.

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