cooler1

On the forum in April 09, dmarzean mentioned this about polls and submitting them to web 2.0 sites for fast ranking. Does anyone know if this still works or have tried this method?

I was going to PM him regarding this but he hasn't been online since February so i decided to start a thread instead. I know the internet is ever changing so there is probably some reason why this doesn't work anymore but hopefully it does.



Some questions i have;

1. How do you know if you have a good chance of ranking for a specific long tail keyword. Do you have to look for keywords below a certain amount of monthly searches?

2. Does the keyword have to be on the landing page also or only in the actual subdomain?

3. Would this only work with a .com domain or can you use other domains.

4. Do you have to have followers on the social bookmarking sites to get ranked or doesn't this make a difference?

williamrs

I personally think that it's hard to get good positions on the search engines (even if it's just for a few days) with polls. Polls, sales pages, review pages, etc... It's very hard to get good positions with these sites (I'm not saying impossible, just hard).

So I think that the best way to promote polls is by using paid traffic. There is plenty of platforms out there that offer cheap traffic that can be used to promote polls with a good ROI.


William

jeffrey73

Yeah, exactly what Williamrs said. Polls are a very short term strategy anyway. Getting a poll ranked organically would be too much of a time investment for the pay-off and not worth the effort, I think.

cooler1

The PPC isn't going well at all. For the poll, there's been 25 clicks at a total cost of $4.94 but no conversions.

I checked the CPA offer stats and there has been 20 unique clicks so it seems that 20 people out of 25 who clicked on the ad answered the poll but no one did the offer.

I created 2 more polls but they haven't gone well either. There was 15 clicks on the other 2 polls in total but no conversions.

What does this likely indicate the problem is? The offer is for a $1,000 Best Buy Gift Card. The offers details say "Converts on simple email submit." so i assume that means it's a first page submit.

Ive paused all 3 ad's now as it doesn't make sense to keep them running when nothing is happening.

What sort of time investment would it require? dmarzean said he was getting indexed within 1 or 2 hours.

jordanberg2311

I guess you'll need more clicks
100 clicks only you start determine if it works or not
if no conversions, drop it
if there's any conversions, try to look deeper.

Start 5 polls and and eliminate 4 polls at the end of the day

cooler1

Most people experienced in polls say give it 30 clicks to determine if it works or not.

I'll have to change the offer to something else, see if it makes a difference. No conversions after 40 clicks is dreadful.

jordanberg2311

true, but try to ask your AM which email submit will performs better. etc
40clicks = I would assume about $8-10 spent. Hope you can get a conversion
are you using any of the big3 search engine?

cooler1

Im using Bidvertiser. The 40 clicks cost $7.45

Fortunatly you get $20 free credit so the $7.45 wasted so far hasn't come out of my pocket.

sith005

Try to rotate offers if possible. If the offer has been on the network for a while, there is a good chance it is being scrubbed. ~30 clicks is a good starting point. Your first poll has a good CTR from the poll to the offer, 80%. So it seems your ad copy and poll itself are doing the job. Does the poll explain say that they will have to enter e-mail on the next page for a gift card, etc? If so, the big disconnect is the offer, so try and rotate that.

Also, I've never used Bidvertiser, but I've heard mixed things, so could be the traffic quality as well.

cooler1

Yes the poll does say they need to enter their email address on the next page as im using the WP EasyPolls plugin.

sith005

Gotcha, yeah sometimes it comes down to the quality of traffic and the offer. If you rotate other offers in and get the same results, maybe the traffic is just not cutting it. Again, I've not had any experience with Bidvertiser, so not sure. Scrubbing is probably a factor as well I'd imagine. Try rotating in some newer e-mail/zip submit offers if possible.

jeffrey73

Having your site indexed does not guarantee you Google page #1 automatically. I'm curious if you are trying to target a certain phrase for your poll? It could be possible, but Google usually loves content filled website. SEO usually takes more work to get traffic to your website. By that time, the offer could expire, or the topic could have fizzled.

I've never actually seen a Poll ranked in the #1 position on Google. Polls are just not really set up for that type of traffic, IMO.

cooler1

Yes, ive finally got a conversion. I changed the offer to a Win a Dell Mini offer, gave it 7 clicks but got no conversions.

Then i changed it to a Win an iPhone 4G offer, just got 1 conversion for this.