Chris Ramsey

Hey dudes and dudettes,

So I've been playing with adf.ly for the last few days (http://adf.ly) and have been able to add over 300 new subscribers to my email list for just $40. Certain buddies of mine have had MUCH higher numbers than I have.

(Adf.ly is a URL shortener that displays interstatial/banner ads after a user clicks through)

The trouble is, these guys aren't opening emails or buying... so I thought about CPA.

So I'm now sending a bunch of traffic to a few offers, and we'll see how they convert! Since I know they like to sign up for newsletters, I think CPA with adf.ly will be a snap.

I'll let you know how it goes.

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tibipuiu

sounds interesting. please do keep us posted

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williamrs

That will be a nice experiement!

How much time did it take for you to get the 300 subscribers? Also, what autoresponder are you using? Because I have had deliverability problems with self-hosted autoresponders in the past, so I recommend you to go with Aweber or GetResponse.


William

Chris Ramsey

I've been using Aweber for the last few years.

It took 3 days to get the subs, 40k hits, which cost me $40.

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johnkn

I was looking at their advertising options and, according to your expenses, you probably didn't use geo-target. Is it still worth the money if you get subscribers from any country?

bigg

interesting. i'll be following your experiment.

Biowza

This inspired me to do the same. I've direct linked to a CPA offer to see what sort of conversion I get.

I'll post my results as they come.

costi

I tried some interstitial ads from clicksor but with no success, I will give it a try also with ads.ly maybe I will have more luck, just now I am buying an ad!

williamrs

Hey, Chris, it seems that you helped people here find another traffic source!

Chris Ramsey

Well, it seems that adf.ly works for squeeze pages, but when it comes to CPA, I'm sending the wrong offers, or MaxBounty's tracking is WAY off.

I sent 5k viewers to two different offers, which would have netted me about 100 new subscribers with my current squeeze - and I didn't get a single conversion on the offers.

They were both "make money from home" style offers. One for survey's, and I can't remember what the other was for exactly.

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Gijsbertus

Running just now a small campaign with adf.ly ... don't know if i can post the link here... still, 5 usd per 1000 USA targeted vis. is very cheap.
I have put up an amazon affiliatelink (cookie 24hrs) let's wait and see what happens - let you know

costi

I also launched an email submit offer, but until now no leads! Still 600 hits to go!

Freddie

I can tell you already you're in for a great ROI. I have done the same over the last few days and it is very profitable this time of the year.

Trouble is - it is also very much against Amazon's affiliate agreement...

Personally I will not continue despite the healthy profit margin. Not too keen on losing my Amazon account. It's up to you how you value the quick buck (because it really does work great!) vs the risk of losing your account. Make sure you cover your tracks.

I am very interested in the main topic of the thread though... to see if anyone has success with adfly and CPA.

williamrs

So you probably need to find a way to make your subscribers more responsive... Are the confirm feature enabled for your campaign?

Also, try to promote free lead gen offers like gift cards (very profitable now that Christmas is coming) instead of paid offers.


William

alliance

I just tested 5000 for $5.00 International for a squeeze page free optin and received about 59 sign-ups. Let's see if they convert. That's over 1% sign-up rate. I'm planning to test USA only and compare results. Thanks Chris for traffic new source.

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costi

My email submit campaign almost finished but no any conversions until now! The offer was about a free phone! Any suggestions?

Freddie

That's a good result - much better than I got when I tried my squeeze. Can I be curious and ask what was on your squeeze page? Niche? Actual offer?

Bane

I'm going to be brutally honest here - why would you use such a horrible offer? When the iPhone first came out, sure. 6 years ago, fine. But now?

Every even slightly internet savvy user has already seen those offers a million times and has felt scammed almost every time they've filled one out.

Biowza

Well, I had similar results to most here.

My offer was a zip-submit offer for free fuel.

Got 1 conversion from the 1,000 hits which I paid $5 for (US traffic) which paid out $1.30.

Overall, I operated at a loss of $3.70.

Paleochora

This is a very interesting thread and I look forward to seeing the results from the posters above.

You really can't expect too much from this traffic, even if its geo-targeted as it has a high irritant factor. Nobody likes seeing an ad in between where they have just clicked from before they get to what they just clicked to get to.

That's why it's cheap to buy.

Good to see this forum coming up trumps again in helping people assess the viability of such schemes.

alliance

Its a free affiliate marketing course. Its all in the follow-up.

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Biowza

Just thought I'd bump this thread to say that I tried another offer and some traffic NOT from the USA and I'm seeing some decent results.

I'm just direct linking a CPA offer to a european market

A little over 10% of the hits delivered and I've pretty much broken even already.

I'm looking forward to see what my final results will be.

costi

@Biowza Can you give any hints about what the offer is?

Biowza

It's a bit of software which pays $1.30 for each download. It's on the peerfly network.

I just checked my stats and my campaign has just broken even with still half the hits to come.

Thanks to Chris Ramsey for showing me this lol

Paleochora

Way to go, Biowza!

Time for a little test of me own I'm thinking!

May I ask which countries are converting?

Biowza

Thanks! My campaign is targeted to Italian traffic at the moment and its working quite well.

I'll try out some other markets I think, but yeah, I think the key to adfly is to NOT target USA, and try to find offers relating to the country you're targeting.

It is now a 'profitable' campaign (By a couple of dollars, but hey I spent only 6$ on the traffic)

Paleochora

Thanks. I may test something similar on the Germans

When using Peerfly, have you had any experience in the differentce between the long and short links?

Paleochora

OK. All set up. testing...testing....one two...

olamilekan2

Thanks for sharing this, will be conducting my own testing today. But one question what kind of traffic is best interstitial or leaderboard banner advertising and do you suggest direct linking or you create your own banner.

Still new to promoting CPA offers.

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costi

I think that the interstitial is better, anyway after you get a positive ROI you can start testing also the top banner.

sk8er431

this ad.fly thing got me interested too, seems like when you get traffics from us traffic in the international package you would definitely get more leads.

jordanberg2311

from there you get cheap traffics but you dont know how targeted you are getting.
when i was surfing searching for something and adf.ly interrupts me and sometimes it gets on my nerves.

When you are driving smoothly and no cars on the road suddenly you strike a red lights.

ChildRoad-X

A good experiment is worth for the try

Gijsbertus

Did 7 sales untill today - 7,73 usd comm. versus 10,- usd costs but campaign still live - let's reinvest and try other offer/copy .. OK just launched cpa offer Au - I will report back in 2 days

Colton

Test, test, and more tests. I might have to give this little experiment a go.

EmpyreRJ

Can we target traffic just for USA

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kcom

Sounds positive for listbuilding, so-so for CPA offers

Paleochora

I split my traffic between Italy and Germany for a European CPA offer. So far $3.84 spent out of my test budget of $5 and $3.90 earned. How is that for breaking even! 500 more hits to go, so lets see how it looks in the morning.

So far with this offer the ratio is 1 conversion for every 500 visits. If I get my expected 1 more conversion from the remaining 500 in my test campaign then I will be $0.20 in profit. When the campaign is over this will help people work out the CPC and compare to the EPC of offers they wish to push. Although I should be testing with much higher numbers to get meaningful data. lol.

Good fun though!

EDIT: I just noticed comparing actual reported clicks to the offer with the number of visitors from my adfly budget that there is a substantial discrepancy in my favour. This must be the visits which last less than the required amount of time and are not charged for. Nice to know they are honest about that.

imkazu

interesting find, testing one of my ppv campaigns tehre

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Paleochora

Just an update of my test last night.

With about 50 visits left to go on the campaign, I stand at $1.50 profit. $5 spent and $6.50 earned.

Whether I would risk investing enough moula to make it worthwhile is another question. Traffic comes quickly enough but Peerfly (the CPA network I used for this test) pauses/ceases offers without any notice and, although you can pause campaigns with adfly, I'm not sure whether you can edit them to put a different URL in once they are running.

CPApromoter

I imagine you could just set up a new one once you pause one, as opposed to editing the paused one. i'd just leave it paused.

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Paleochora

Yes you could, but my point is that if you had thrown $1k or $2k (which you would need to do to make any respectable coin) on a campaign and halfway through it was busted by the CPA company, would that 'balance' of money be available for other campaigns?

I have e-mailed adfly to clarify this

costi

Any updates? From my side I tried an other offer a download offer and still no conversions, it was for US traffic, now I will try one with foreign traffic if still no conversions, I will give up.

Paleochora

So far $12 spent and $18.20 earned. Still have about 800 visits to come.

And Adfly have told me that you can divert unspent funds to a different campaign by editing the campaign URL

If you are using CPA offers, look closely at the CR & EPC. Basically, this traffic is near to junk but you should get some conversions. I am getting 0.28% CR - 14 conversions of of just over 5000 clicks (800 or so of those clicks are 'extras' which closed before 5 seconds) So, look at how much you will earn for the conversion, and, if my figures are anywhere near representative, you should find out if its profitable of not as the advertising cost is fixed.

CrhisD

People tell me there's something called "scrubbing" in which they can legally not pay you anything you have earned. I'm not sure how that's suppose to work, or even if there's any chance of that happening.

Paleochora

Who? CPA networks?

There are controls with regard to the equivalent of click fraud - say hiring someone to create and submit e-mail addresses to offers or getting bots to do the same but, in this case, you are driving legit traffic and the offer is not converting high enough for it to raise any flags anyway.

The same with PPC. A service can dispute your traffic if your stats look fishy or if they get complaints from advertisers.

Have you heard anything particular regarding any specific CPA network?

I have always been paid by the ones I work with - and on time too.

Paleochora

Dude, first of all we are discussing advertising using adfly on this thread, not publishing which I assume you are referring to.

But since you raise the matter, you obviously don't use a shortened adfly link to anything you care about

If you have a site or a blog which is a primary web property then you use your normal link. if, however you want to refer people to someone else's site or to a CPA offer then why not use adfly? If people don't make it to the page, you may still get some income from the click.

One cool use I heard of is if you have a forum, you can set it to turn all links posted into adfly links for your account. imagine that if the forum is popular!

CrhisD

It's here : Email/zip submits that pay $1-$5

If you look at post #4 someone says

pedobear

I have doubts about the quality of the traffic from adf.ly. Anyway a very interesting idea you have. keep us updated on your progress

olamilekan2

Quality and volume of traffic are not as high as other Ads Network, but is good for testing offers which are not restricted to a demographics. Ok for someone just starting out

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