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Old 12-06-2010, 05:58 AM   #1
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Hi Warriors,

When I first started promoting CPA offers about a year ago, I tried to promote all sorts of offers without doing much research about the offer itself. That's because my main concern was getting the lead and the money.

Now as I get more experienced, I added one additional step to my niche/offer analysis process, which is to check if the offer has too many negative feedbacks and complaints. The reason for adding this step is that after reading a lot of complaints about some offers that I was planning to promote, I noticed that I wouldn't want to harm people in any way including financial, health and other means.

Unfortunately, a big percentage of offers that I checked up to now in my CPA network have a lot of bad feedbacks and complaints on a number of websites. It is acceptable that not all the people who buy/try something will be happy with the product/service but if the complaints are in such a way that the advertiser does not stand to what they are promising or they are having fraudulent activities, then, it is not acceptable.

I am not sure if this is the case for all the CPA networks but I guess the situation is more or less the same. So, if you contribute to the topic by answering my following questions, I will be grateful.

* Do you make a research about the reputation of the offer that you will promote?
* What types of offers do you mostly promote?
* Which networks you work with have a lot of CPA offers with good reputation?

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I would like to get some feedback on this as well. I was looking at an offer for making money taking surveys.

Did a Google search on the company and saw nothing but negative feedback.

I liked the payout of the offer but am very reluctant to promote something that has such bad feed back. If you get an answer from anyone I'd like to hear about it.
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I would like to get some feedback on this as well. I was looking at an offer for making money taking surveys.

Did a Google search on the company and saw nothing but negative feedback.

I liked the payout of the offer but am very reluctant to promote something that has such bad feed back. If you get an answer from anyone I'd like to hear about it.
I also wonder if those free TV/Ipad etc. offers really deliver. They really put people thru a ton of hoops to get the item. People may have to spend probably around $3000 to get the item, including making major purchases like furniture.

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I also wonder if those free TV/Ipad etc. offers really deliver. They really put people thru a ton of hoops to get the item. People may have to spend probably around $3000 to get the item, including making major purchases like furniture.

They normally do deliver but as you said, they normally put people through a ton of hoops. These arent always monetary hoops but rather time and frustrations hoops such as having to sign up for multiple trial offers and then dealing with the subsequent headaches of trying to cancel them.

But of course a company isn't going to just hand out free ipads or tvs. A company wouldnt be in business if they had to dish out $700 iPads without making at least that much in return..be it through selling leads, upselling, etc.


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Hi Warriors,

When I first started promoting CPA offers about a year ago, I tried to promote all sorts of offers without doing much research about the offer itself. That's because my main concern was getting the lead and the money.

Now as I get more experienced, I added one additional step to my niche/offer analysis process, which is to check if the offer has too many negative feedbacks and complaints. The reason for adding this step is that after reading a lot of complaints about some offers that I was planning to promote, I noticed that I wouldn't want to harm people in any way including financial, health and other means.

Unfortunately, a big percentage of offers that I checked up to now in my CPA network have a lot of bad feedbacks and complaints on a number of websites. It is acceptable that not all the people who buy/try something will be happy with the product/service but if the complaints are in such a way that the advertiser does not stand to what they are promising or they are having fraudulent activities, then, it is not acceptable.

I am not sure if this is the case for all the CPA networks but I guess the situation is more or less the same. So, if you contribute to the topic by answering my following questions, I will be grateful.

* Do you make a research about the reputation of the offer that you will promote?
* What types of offers do you mostly promote?
* Which networks you work with have a lot of CPA offers with good reputation?

Thanks for reading,
Nail


Overall, I certainly do look at the offers I am promoting. When I started I didnt really care as I was mostly focused on the pot of gold, but things have changed. In fact, most of my promotion now is focused on offers from reputable companies. If you are promoting a real company or site like eHarmony, Netflix, insurance company you can be more cnofident in the offer. If you are promoting an offer of a company or third party that you have never heard of, thats when you have to be careful.

Also, a wal mart gift card doesnt mean its wal mart that is the merchant. Read the fine print here.


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Should You Feel Guilty Pushing Slightly Shady Affiliate Offers? | Inside the Secret Life of a Super Affiliate - Zac Johnson dot Com

This is a great post you may have interest to read. True, many CPA offers have always been shady IMO, but business is business.

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hi,

"Business is business" and businesses can provide at least basic level of value to consumers and offers can be presented in better level of transparency as far as certain T&C are concerned if CPA industry is to survive for long haul. Nowadays,consumers are getting 'smarter',especially if they have encounter unfavorable experiences.Do remember that we play the role of consumers too at certain times.

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hi,

"Business is business" and businesses can provide at least basic level of value to consumers and offers can be presented in better level of transparency as far as certain T&C are concerned if CPA industry is to survive for long haul. Nowadays,consumers are getting 'smarter',especially if they have encounter unfavorable experiences.Do remember that we play the role of consumers too at certain times.

my 2 cents view
There are good and bad products out there. It's not about CPA, internet marketing, networks, etc... As John said, business is business, it's part of any industry anywhere. Do you think that every product advertised on the TV delivers? It doesn't mean that the TV channel is the guilty, though.

There are 3 parts: the guy selling, the guy promoting and the guy buying. If the first part is a scammer you can or not consider the second part a scammer as well, it depends on your concepts.

The fact is that there will always be scammers selling stuff and the consumer needs to be aware of it and be careful when purchasing something. I'm a marketer, not a "guardian". I don't look for shaddy offers to promote and honestly, I don't drive traffic to an offer that I know that will steal people's money, but I also don't feel that I need to do everything for my customer, each person has the obligation to take care of their own money and make research about a product before supplying their CC#. You want to buy, you make the research and you make the choice. I don't have to protect everybody and decide what's good and what's not for others.

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There are good and bad products out there. It's not about CPA, internet marketing, networks, etc... As John said, business is business, it's part of any industry anywhere. Do you think that every product advertised on the TV delivers? It doesn't mean that the TV channel is the guilty, though.

There are 3 parts: the guy selling, the guy promoting and the guy buying. If the first part is a scammer you can or not consider the second part a scammer as well, it depends on your concepts.

The fact is that there will always be scammers selling stuff and the consumer needs to be aware of it and be careful when purchasing something. I'm a marketer, not a "guardian". I don't look for shaddy offers to promote and honestly, I don't drive traffic to an offer that I know that will steal people's money, but I also don't feel that I need to do everything for my customer, each person has the obligation to take care of their own money and make research about a product before supplying their CC#. You want to buy, you make the research and you make the choice. I don't have to protect everybody and decide what's good and what's not for others.

Just my opinion, of course...


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I agree to what you mentioned the consumer has to do their research but businesses can do their part by being more transparent with their T&C, eg. whether a health product delivers or not depends on case by case basis but businesses can help by saying" results varies with each individual" should be displayed in prominent section and not hide it somewhere where consumer cannot find it easily in their ads.I always believe when you are truthful,transparent and provide value to consumers or customers,it always pays in the long run. Consumers may not get the relevant information even though they may done some research in some cases.We are consumers too and like to be treated fairly,do you not think so?

Just my thoughts,of course!

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Remember when someone has something bad to say, they will scream it at the top of their lungs and tell anyone who will listen. They want to make sure that company suffers if they can make it suffer.

However, if someone had a good experience with something, they may or may not be as emotional and want to tell the world. In fact, they might even keep it to themselves.

Don't believe everything you read online. There is ALWAYS two sides to every story and you usually only get one.

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Remember when someone has something bad to say, they will scream it at the top of their lungs and tell anyone who will listen. They want to make sure that company suffers if they can make it suffer.

However, if someone had a good experience with something, they may or may not be as emotional and want to tell the world. In fact, they might even keep it to themselves.

Don't believe everything you read online. There is ALWAYS two sides to every story and you usually only get one.



Thats a good point. Same with ebook reviews, WSO reviews etc. If people love a product and start making money they will rarely go back and visit the thread down the road to tell others how much they are making.

However, if they hate the product they will gladly make an effort to visit the thread and share their thoughts. It's the way it is.

I have personally had NUMEROUS people ask for a refund because a product "didn't meet their expectations" before the download was even sent haha. I'm like, really...you could have waited until you received it before saying you dont like it haha.

Anyway, there are bad buyers just as there are bad sellers. This goes for products and CPA offers!

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Hi Warriors,

When I first started promoting CPA offers about a year ago, I tried to promote all sorts of offers without doing much research about the offer itself. That's because my main concern was getting the lead and the money.

Now as I get more experienced, I added one additional step to my niche/offer analysis process, which is to check if the offer has too many negative feedbacks and complaints. The reason for adding this step is that after reading a lot of complaints about some offers that I was planning to promote, I noticed that I wouldn't want to harm people in any way including financial, health and other means.

Unfortunately, a big percentage of offers that I checked up to now in my CPA network have a lot of bad feedbacks and complaints on a number of websites. It is acceptable that not all the people who buy/try something will be happy with the product/service but if the complaints are in such a way that the advertiser does not stand to what they are promising or they are having fraudulent activities, then, it is not acceptable.

I am not sure if this is the case for all the CPA networks but I guess the situation is more or less the same. So, if you contribute to the topic by answering my following questions, I will be grateful.

* Do you make a research about the reputation of the offer that you will promote?
* What types of offers do you mostly promote?
* Which networks you work with have a lot of CPA offers with good reputation?

Thanks for reading,
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I do this as well.

If the offer's name has a complaint page ranking on the first page for the product name I will hold off on promoting it.

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I agree to what you mentioned the consumer has to do their research but businesses can do their part by being more transparent with their T&C, eg. whether a health product delivers or not depends on case by case basis but businesses can help by saying" results varies with each individual" should be displayed in prominent section and not hide it somewhere where consumer cannot find it easily in their ads.I always believe when you are truthful,transparent and provide value to consumers or customers,it always pays in the long run. Consumers may not get the relevant information even though they may done some research in some cases.We are consumers too and like to be treated fairly,do you not think so?

Just my thoughts,of course!
Yes, you're right. Businesses can do their part. I do mine avoiding to promote offers that I know that are scams. However, what I tried to say is that the consumer controls their money, not me. If the seller doesn't give enough information or is not transparent, the consumer must decide not to make the purchase. I would make this choice for my son, but I can't make this choice for thousands of people everyday.

I know that it may sound a bit self-fish, but this is the way the world is. I think very well before suplying my CC# on a website, and everybody should do the same. The world isn't the Wonderful Land, each person needs to be able to take care of their own wallet, we shouldn't expect that others will do it for us (I don't do it as a consumer).

I'm not a scammer. I avoid promoting scamms. I don't choose a shaddy offer just to increase my EPC by 2c. However, I can't take all the responsability as well. I can't decide when people should buy something and when they shouldn't. As I said in my previous post, I'm an internet marketer, not a "guardian" trying to protect people from getting scammed. I'm more like a TV channel, the guy pays and I expose his product to the consumer, but the decision of making the purchase or not isn't mine.


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Yes, you're right. Businesses can do their part. I do mine avoiding to promote offers that I know that are scams. However, what I tried to say is that the consumer controls their money, not me. If the seller doesn't give enough information or is not transparent, the consumer must decide not to make the purchase. I would make this choice for my son, but I can't make this choice for thousands of people everyday.

I know that it may sound a bit self-fish, but this is the way the world is. I think very well before suplying my CC# on a website, and everybody should do the same. The world isn't the Wonderful Land, each person needs to be able to take care of their own wallet, we shouldn't expect that others will do it for us (I don't do it as a consumer).

I'm not a scammer. I avoid promoting scamms. I don't choose a shaddy offer just to increase my EPC by 2c. However, I can't take all the responsability as well. I can't decide when people should buy something and when they shouldn't. As I said in my previous post, I'm an internet marketer, not a "guardian" trying to protect people from getting scammed. I'm more like a TV channel, the guy pays and I expose his product to the consumer, but the decision of making the purchase or not isn't mine.


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I only said that each party should perform their own role whether as a more ethical merchant or as smart consumer.William,you are not selfish,in fact no one can make decisions for others.What I am saying is that if each party just do their part then it would be fine.I am saying merchants can in fact do more on their part as far as transparency is concerned.

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If you are promoting a real company or site like eHarmony, Netflix, insurance company you can be more cnofident in the offer. If you are promoting an offer of a company or third party that you have never heard of, thats when you have to be careful.

Everybody can play within their own field of comfort. Just stay true to yourself...money is great but certainly not everything
Kenster, I totally agree with you that money is not everything and I will try harder to find real offers that deliver. This way, I believe I can make even more. Because I will keep in mind that what I promote does help people in a way.

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This is a great post you may have interest to read. True, many CPA offers have always been shady IMO, but business is business.
Thanks for the link.

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Do you think that every product advertised on the TV delivers? It doesn't mean that the TV channel is the guilty, though.

There are 3 parts: the guy selling, the guy promoting and the guy buying. If the first part is a scammer you can or not consider the second part a scammer as well, it depends on your concepts.

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William, so you are saying that there is no fault at the TV channel if what they advertise does not deliver? I am sorry but I cannot agree on this as we will have a responsibility on what we promote. If we promote a scam, knowing or without knowing that it is a scam, then we are guilty as much as the merchant himself. We cannot just say to the customer: "Hey, this is a scam and I am promoting it, but you should be careful when buying because I will not take any responsibility if it causes any loss."

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Yes, it is very tempting (i've been there) to do crappy things to make a buck when you are first online, but its important to really remember who you are and what you want to be. Integrity is key and often blinded when people see money signs

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