CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do?

NothingLess · 12-15-2010, 02:28 PM

Hi, I've made hundreds of dollars with a cpa network last month and I'm not receiving payment or support. I can't reach support through anyway, phone, email, aim chat.

Any suggestions on what I can do? Or should I just cut my losses? This just pisses me off, because it's my hard earned money. And I bet there are many people signing up to the network, making money only to not get paid out.

Any help?

williamrs · 12-15-2010, 03:37 PM

If you used BH methods, then forget it. They won't care about you and they are right.

If you used legit methods, then I'm sorry about this. I have never got scammed by a network, but I can feel your pain, because I know how much we have to struggle to make our hard earned cash. Unfortunately, if they are not replying and it isn't really big money I think that the best you can do is give them the feedback they deserve. You can start posting your review here: 500+ CPA Networks and Publisher Affiliate Networks Reviewed // AffiliatePaying.com.

But try not to lose your campaign, look for other networks running the same offer and contact them.

William

The Mothman · 12-15-2010, 03:51 PM

That sucks man, what network was it, so none of us sign up?

I would try getting their info and taking them to small claims court depending how much they owe you.

cpaleadtroy · 12-15-2010, 03:52 PM

I agree, if you used BH with a legitimate network, after they inform you that your account has been closed you may not be able to receive support from them again.

Many networks lose money on publishers that use unethical techniques to promote their offers which is why they may have given you the cold shoulder. Networks must do everything in their power to protect their advertiser's interests, otherwise the quality and selection of their campaigns will suffer.

If this is NOT the case, and the method you used to promote their offers was compliant with their TOS, then you should let everyone know your story along with details and proof.

If you just say the network scammed you without going into specifics, a majority of people will assume you did something wrong and will not take your review seriously.

Barb Thornback · 12-15-2010, 04:10 PM

I have never had any trouble with payments.

What network was it?

NothingLess · 12-15-2010, 04:12 PM

No I don't use any blackhat techniques. I create review websites and refer a product. And it's a good chunk of change, at least for me, $600+ can come in to good use. I will post negative reviews on that affiliate paying site and others if I find them.

Also, I will post the network here in a couple of days if I still don't receive payment or at least some support.

Phobos · 12-15-2010, 05:35 PM

Is it a popular network or just a fly by night company?

PPC-Coach · 12-15-2010, 08:29 PM

What were you doing that made them withold your payments?

mamu · 12-15-2010, 08:38 PM

hello,you can just show the name of your network,a lot of CPA network manager here,maybe one of them is who you need to contact,try it

COPEAC Stephen · 12-16-2010, 01:10 PM

If you didn't use black hate methods i would review the networks terms and conditions one more time to make sure you didn't violate anything listed on there. If you read through and find nothing about the method you used or your marketing practices then i would continue to send communications and state you're in the process of taking legal action against the network.

It may not get them to release the money right away but maybe it will grab someones attention so you can begin getting the responses you're looking for...

Also - i imagine you're reluctant to post the network name on here otherwise you would have done so but if may benefit you, there are loads of networks on there so there be a rep from the network that can assist...

Either way I'm sorry this happened to you and hope you resolve the issue.

Kenster · 12-16-2010, 01:43 PM

Yep, first make sure you were promoting honestly.

If it is one of the bigger more reputable networks, then chances are you will get paid assuming you were playing between the posts. If it was a smaller new network, there is more risk of course

Kenster · 12-16-2010, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waddle

All of this "don't use BH techniques" stuff is a load of bollocks. I can say from extensive personal experience that most networks don't mind BH traffic but they just won't admit it in public. What they don't want is: fraud, noobs generating complaints, and poor conversions for the advertiser. There's a huge difference between judicious use of BH techniques and lazy, outright spam (especially unsolicited mail) that generates complaints. In SEO at least, ALL of the big dogs are using at least some grey area techniques. However if you are going to use BH techniques then you have to realize it's a calculated risk.

The conversions argument is also a total straw man. More often than not BH provides conversions that are just as good or better because the click path is shorter. If the traffic is real, buying customers and not fraud then the network at least owes you can explanation.

Good luck getting your money mate. If you can't, out the company so the rest of us can see who not to do business with. To a certain extent you just have to factor in not getting paid as a cost of doing business, it's going to happen sooner or later. Cut your losses and move on - lesson learned. Time and effort spent on hand wringing could be better spent on making more money.

In general bluefart techniques DON'T have the lead quality and that is why networks and most importantly merchants don't like it.

It also depends what you mean by bluefart and the extent you are using it. You have to realize that a lot of those techniques involve framing portions of the offer etc to artificially get unqualified leads. Clearly this will convert on the advertisers end like garbage.

Now if you would consider the use of offline traffic to an offer that doesnt specifically allow offline traffic to be considered bluefart, then I agree, the lead quality will many times be just as good and though its not playing by the letter of the terms, nobody really cares because everybody is making money. Again like you said, its a calculated risk.

So though bluefart doesnt automatically mean conversions are lower, in the majority of circumstances it is.

NothingLess · 12-16-2010, 03:43 PM

Hey guys, thanks for the input. I don't like to talk badly about other people or networks. But if I really do not get paid, then I will post the network here, because people should know not to signup to this network.

* With this BH stuff, I don't do any of that. I have a simple review site that ranks in the search engines to drive traffic. It complies 110% with the TOS.

John34 · 12-16-2010, 04:39 PM

Try to contact them first and still if you do not get paid, just start posting a negative reviews about them on various forums.

Similar thing happened with one of the CPALead publisher, company did not pay him his $12k, the he started thread in DP forums and also ran an adword ad pointing people to his thread on DP. And the result? In 3 days they paid him $10k.

Kenster · 12-16-2010, 09:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waddle

It looks like we're talking about two different things. I'm talking strictly about traffic generation. It doesn't matter how you got the traffic - if it's targeted, it will convert. For example, I can set up my piddling white hat blog and do article marketing and send 10 leads a day. Or, I can set up 100 niche autoblogs with scraped / autogenned content, link spam the crap out of them, redirect traffic with an SE referrer to a CPA offer and blank my referrers, and make 10-100 times as much. It's all still niche traffic, I just get a lot more of it using the BH variation. They're all still real human beings looking for products in . The lead quality is thus identical. Now which webmaster do you think the networks are going to line up to work with?

We can agree that stuff like dodgy iframing is obviously just dumb and helps no one. In that case, yes, the leady quality is going to suck for the advetiser and you should be banned. But I'm talking about BH techniques on the traffic side, not the conversion side.

Agreed, most times affiliate managers dont really care what you did to get traffic, so long as the traffic is within the boundaries of the offer. So if you are doing funky SEO stuff but driving people to a legitimate lander, then that's cool.

fairlights · 12-16-2010, 10:37 PM

Find a affiliate network review site and give them a bad review.

azmanar · 12-17-2010, 05:36 AM

Hi,

I don't believe in doing tit for tat. Don't do to others what you don't want others do to you.

BUT .............. you can use PRESSURE, if you're truthful about your problem and you're clean from any wrong-doing. Easily said, they are at fault and not you.

STEP (1) Here is what I suggest :
1 - Follow-up with them until you're satisfied that they really don't want to pay you.
2 - Never use threats or vulgarities! Keep copies of your communication and their responses to you.
3 - Get advice from BBB.org/us or BBB/canada ( many of these companies are in Canada )
4 - Check out reviews regarding them if they exist in the BBB.org
5 - If they're not, then check out reviews in WF & DP

STEP (2) If you cannot settle this and the amount is big, GET A LAWYER

STEP (3) Now, if the above cannot help and you cant afford a lawayer, then you can start ASKING in WF & DP. Just mention that it is a complain. Don't use bad words, make yourself known you're upset. Step up the pressure, USE ANGRY WORDS.

POST YOUR COMMUNICATIONS AS WELL and mention the people you are dealing with.

If the above cannot settle matters amicably, STEP UP THE PRESSURE.

STEP (4) Start making 10 VIDEOS about them and upload them in 20 VIDEO SITES. So thats 200 videos on the net ! State your issues clearly and professionally. Again, don't use bad words, make yourself known you're upset and angry of the situation. ADVICE PEOPLE NOT TO USE THEM ANYMORE.

Right after you finished uploading the videos, MAKE SURE YOU TWIT and POST THEM in FACEBOOK.

YOU WILL GET SYMPATHY from someone of authority who WILL TAKE ACTIONS. You will, in your actions, stopped others from getting "screwed" by the company.

YOU WILL GET THE ATTENTION OF ADVERTISERS ( merchants ) and this will slower the brisk business that has brought them to their current level.

I bet you can settle it before you finished uploading the video..

If you're not truthful and if you have done something wrong that made them kicked you out of their NETWORK, then get ready to be sued.

You get to choose your actions actually.

ukbuddy2 · 12-17-2010, 07:56 AM

join the network using different details
then when they phone you to verify account you will have somebody to talk too

SiddFisher · 12-17-2010, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waddle

It looks like we're talking about two different things. I'm talking strictly about traffic generation. It doesn't matter how you got the traffic - if it's targeted, it will convert. For example, I can set up my piddling white hat blog and do article marketing and send 10 leads a day. Or, I can set up 100 niche autoblogs with scraped / autogenned content, link spam the crap out of them, redirect traffic with an SE referrer to a CPA offer and blank my referrers, and make 10-100 times as much. It's all still niche traffic, I just get a lot more of it using the BH variation. They're all still real human beings looking for products in . The lead quality is thus identical. Now which webmaster do you think the networks are going to line up to work with?

We can agree that stuff like dodgy iframing is obviously just dumb and helps no one. In that case, yes, the leady quality is going to suck for the advetiser and you should be banned. But I'm talking about BH techniques on the traffic side, not the conversion side.

Lovely!

This is by far the best post I've read today.

On topic, The OP does seem a little reluctant in sharing the network's name. Dude, if you're that the network won't pay you for sure if you tell us their name then you're freaked out for no reason at all. As someone else pointed out, their might be an AM on WF who could get your problem sorted out.

mtmjohn · 12-17-2010, 12:11 PM

I'd strongly recommend you stick to 3-5 large cpa networks with great reputations, such as neverblue, ewanetwork, and copeac etc. It is not necessary for it to lose money or take risky chances.

bobhenry · 12-19-2010, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NothingLess

Hi, I've made hundreds of dollars with a cpa network last month and I'm not receiving payment or support. I can't reach support through anyway, phone, email, aim chat.

Any suggestions on what I can do? Or should I just cut my losses? This just pisses me off, because it's my hard earned money. And I bet there are many people signing up to the network, making money only to not get paid out.

Any help?

just tell me which network you are talking about?

NothingLess · 12-20-2010, 12:16 PM

Alright the network is called Mailer's network. I've been trying to contact them through every source of communication and still no word of payment or even any other help.

Faizudin · 12-20-2010, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NothingLess

Alright the network is called Mailer's network. I've been trying to contact them through every source of communication and still no word of payment or even any other help.

It seem like some unknown network. Maybe a scam network. Don't even know who run the network. Not much info on their website either.

QuickSurf · 12-20-2010, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NothingLess

Alright the network is called Mailer's network. I've been trying to contact them through every source of communication and still no word of payment or even any other help.

So many good, known, networks why would you sign with one that is basically not even known except for some scam info you can find when searching. If you search on here you can find a dozens of legit networks, some named right in this thread.

Never even heard of Mailers Network, how did you find out about them?

ChrisBa · 12-20-2010, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NothingLess

Hi, I've made hundreds of dollars with a cpa network last month and I'm not receiving payment or support. I can't reach support through anyway, phone, email, aim chat.

Any suggestions on what I can do? Or should I just cut my losses? This just pisses me off, because it's my hard earned money. And I bet there are many people signing up to the network, making money only to not get paid out.

Any help?

How many attempts have you made to contact them and over what period? also what was the network?

bravo75 · 12-20-2010, 06:00 PM

Mailers Network, LLC

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisBa

How many attempts have you made to contact them and over what period? also what was the network?

NothingLess · 12-20-2010, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Waddle

Known scammer:
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/listing.lasso?file=1177
http://www.spamhaus.org/rokso/eviden...kso_id=ROK9253

Write off the money and move on. Lesson learned: don't do business with dodgy bulk mail operations! If you're doing legal CAN SPAM mail then there are plenty of legit networks who will take your traffic.

DAMN! Thanks for the info, damn I'm pissed, but at least I stopped before I made into the thousands. I don't know how people can do this! Well what goes around comes around, hopefully he'll get what he deserves.

NothingLess · 12-20-2010, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuickSurf

So many good, known, networks why would you sign with one that is basically not even known except for some scam info you can find when searching. If you search on here you can find a dozens of legit networks, some named right in this thread.

Never even heard of Mailers Network, how did you find out about them?

I found them through offervault and used them because they had a higher payout than another network I'm working with. I will never work with a small network again. Lesson learned the hard way, but I'm glad I learned it without too much of a loss.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisBa

How many attempts have you made to contact them and over what period? also what was the network?

Over about 2 weeks, no response, tried calling, emailing support and other emails listed, AIM'ing (responded once or twice, but kept saying can we talk about this tomorrow, or other excuses.)

Kenster · 12-20-2010, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NothingLess

DAMN! Thanks for the info, damn I'm pissed, but at least I stopped before I made into the thousands. I don't know how people can do this! Well what goes around comes around, hopefully he'll get what he deserves.

Yep, there are bad players on all sides of the equations, just like a lor of businesses. The impersonal nature of the internet combined with a few other factors makes it a bit more pervasive in many online businesses.

Luckily A MAJORITY of networks and affiliates and players out there are playing between the posts

Sorry you got burned

PrivateCitizen · 12-21-2010, 01:25 PM

Yeah, I found those guys on Offervault too. Their payouts seemed pretty nice, so I applied to the network. Never heard back from them, lucky for me...

etidd · 12-21-2010, 05:28 PM

i'm surprised no one has said this... why not pursue a lawsuit?? sue them!

bigbrian · 12-22-2010, 12:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by etidd

i'm surprised no one has said this... why not pursue a lawsuit?? sue them!

You are going to burn through $500 talking to your attorney and going over the matter - not worth it. You would need to be in the range of $25k+ to even think about a lawsuit and more often than not if you don't have some type of signed document outlining specific terms you will be basing the legal matter off the T&Cs on their website. And if you are dealing with a dodgy network in the first place I can assure you their T&Cs probably don't say anything decent to boot.

It's unfortunate this happened to you. People should really do their homework before sending traffic to a network. There are so many networks out there and so many choices it makes it very hard for the affiliate sometimes. Check the review sites like AffiliatePaying.com or check similar sites, ask friends, google some info on the company, etc. Again, sorry to hear this happened to you man - it really is a bummer situation.

Brian

NothingLess · 12-22-2010, 04:28 PM

Yea thanks guys, I will only work with reliable and trusted networks from here on out, no matter how high payouts are in other networks...just not worth it.

media500 · 12-25-2010, 09:59 PM

what network was that?

tclo43 · 12-25-2010, 11:57 PM

If you were using blackhatting methods dont expect it back buddy.

aljurians · 12-26-2010, 12:48 AM

Mailer's network

I have seen their offers in offervault..there are email submits like 2.6 i think..

marketwarrior06 · 12-26-2010, 03:52 AM

sorry for you bro... i think before publishing the CPA network name you should try to be sure that you are right and haven't done any wrong.ok? at first wait for few more days.

ukbuddy2 · 12-26-2010, 04:14 AM

have any of you guys let offervault know!!!

most of the networks there are pretty ok but I woul dstick to say 4 or 5 big networks and don't mess them about - i

bqpennell · 01-07-2011, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aljurians

Mailer's network

I have seen their offers in offervault..there are email submits like 2.6 i think..

lol 2.60 compared to everyone else 1.50 to 2.00, Yep right there tells you they are BS and i didnt even do a review

Hasoffer is a good platform not the best by no means but you can thank them for the sudden increase in scamming sites due to there 30 day free trial, they need to remove that as many honest publishers are being taken advantage of.

like they said when ever i goto apply to a network, if its Direct track, Link trust or cake marketing i know they actually invested, when ever it is a Hasoffer network i go straight to affiliate paying to check there reviews

Mr Media Online · 01-12-2011, 01:29 AM

I just applied to their network as well..., saw the Offervault email outlining their network. I will follow-up with my contact @ Mailers network and mention the comments on here. Missed a call from a David Black last week...

I am a bit hesitant to start anything with them now as well.

hilhilginger · 01-12-2011, 03:54 AM

It is sad to learn that you have stuck up with mailer;s network and lost your effort end up with no payment. This was a story with many in the crowd who lose their money with scam network.
I know there are good CPA network around here who pays special attention to new bees and help them for a couple of months to earn.

badboy_Nick · 01-12-2011, 04:24 AM

if you earned it legitimately ... send a letter from a lawyer or go to a debt collection agency. If you did some BH stuff, you wont get that money. Period.

Any questions just let me know

Nick

12-15-2010, 02:28 PM	#1
NothingLess Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 62 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts	CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? Hi, I've made hundreds of dollars with a cpa network last month and I'm not receiving payment or support. I can't reach support through anyway, phone, email, aim chat. Any suggestions on what I can do? Or should I just cut my losses? This just pisses me off, because it's my hard earned money. And I bet there are many people signing up to the network, making money only to not get paid out. Any help?

12-15-2010, 03:37 PM	#2
williamrs Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,496 Thanks: 174 Thanked 1,159 Times in 614 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? If you used BH methods, then forget it. They won't care about you and they are right. If you used legit methods, then I'm sorry about this. I have never got scammed by a network, but I can feel your pain, because I know how much we have to struggle to make our hard earned cash. Unfortunately, if they are not replying and it isn't really big money I think that the best you can do is give them the feedback they deserve. You can start posting your review here: 500+ CPA Networks and Publisher Affiliate Networks Reviewed // AffiliatePaying.com. But try not to lose your campaign, look for other networks running the same offer and contact them. William
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12-15-2010, 03:51 PM	#3
The Mothman Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 27 Thanks: 1 Thanked 6 Times in 3 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? That sucks man, what network was it, so none of us sign up? I would try getting their info and taking them to small claims court depending how much they owe you.

12-15-2010, 03:52 PM	#4
cpaleadtroy CVO & Co-Owner, CPAlead War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 57 Thanks: 0 Thanked 11 Times in 7 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? I agree, if you used BH with a legitimate network, after they inform you that your account has been closed you may not be able to receive support from them again. Many networks lose money on publishers that use unethical techniques to promote their offers which is why they may have given you the cold shoulder. Networks must do everything in their power to protect their advertiser's interests, otherwise the quality and selection of their campaigns will suffer. If this is NOT the case, and the method you used to promote their offers was compliant with their TOS, then you should let everyone know your story along with details and proof. If you just say the network scammed you without going into specifics, a majority of people will assume you did something wrong and will not take your review seriously.
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12-15-2010, 04:10 PM	#5
Barb Thornback HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: , , United Kingdom. Posts: 385 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? I have never had any trouble with payments. What network was it?
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12-15-2010, 04:12 PM	#6
NothingLess Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 62 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? No I don't use any blackhat techniques. I create review websites and refer a product. And it's a good chunk of change, at least for me, $600+ can come in to good use. I will post negative reviews on that affiliate paying site and others if I find them. Also, I will post the network here in a couple of days if I still don't receive payment or at least some support.

12-15-2010, 05:35 PM	#7
Phobos HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 304 Thanks: 34 Thanked 37 Times in 33 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? Is it a popular network or just a fly by night company?

12-15-2010, 08:29 PM	#8
PPC-Coach Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 2,544 Thanks: 44 Thanked 663 Times in 379 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? What were you doing that made them withold your payments?

12-15-2010, 08:38 PM	#9
mamu mamu Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 149 Thanks: 14 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts Contact Info	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? hello,you can just show the name of your network,a lot of CPA network manager here,maybe one of them is who you need to contact,try it

12-16-2010, 01:10 PM	#10
COPEAC Stephen HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 352 Thanks: 0 Thanked 47 Times in 41 Posts Contact Info	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? If you didn't use black hate methods i would review the networks terms and conditions one more time to make sure you didn't violate anything listed on there. If you read through and find nothing about the method you used or your marketing practices then i would continue to send communications and state you're in the process of taking legal action against the network. It may not get them to release the money right away but maybe it will grab someones attention so you can begin getting the responses you're looking for... Also - i imagine you're reluctant to post the network name on here otherwise you would have done so but if may benefit you, there are loads of networks on there so there be a rep from the network that can assist... Either way I'm sorry this happened to you and hope you resolve the issue.

12-16-2010, 01:43 PM	#11
Kenster Krazy Kenster War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 5,111 Blog Entries: 11 Thanks: 672 Thanked 2,009 Times in 885 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? Yep, first make sure you were promoting honestly. If it is one of the bigger more reputable networks, then chances are you will get paid assuming you were playing between the posts. If it was a smaller new network, there is more risk of course
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12-16-2010, 03:43 PM	#13
NothingLess Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 62 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? Hey guys, thanks for the input. I don't like to talk badly about other people or networks. But if I really do not get paid, then I will post the network here, because people should know not to signup to this network. * With this BH stuff, I don't do any of that. I have a simple review site that ranks in the search engines to drive traffic. It complies 110% with the TOS.

12-16-2010, 04:39 PM	#14
John34 Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 1,565 Thanks: 121 Thanked 102 Times in 73 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? Try to contact them first and still if you do not get paid, just start posting a negative reviews about them on various forums. Similar thing happened with one of the CPALead publisher, company did not pay him his $12k, the he started thread in DP forums and also ran an adword ad pointing people to his thread on DP. And the result? In 3 days they paid him $10k.

12-16-2010, 10:37 PM	#16
fairlights Active Warrior Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 47 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? Find a affiliate network review site and give them a bad review.

12-17-2010, 05:36 AM	#17
azmanar Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Malaysia Posts: 999 Blog Entries: 16 Thanks: 860 Thanked 289 Times in 223 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? Hi, I don't believe in doing tit for tat. Don't do to others what you don't want others do to you. BUT .............. you can use PRESSURE, if you're truthful about your problem and you're clean from any wrong-doing. Easily said, they are at fault and not you. STEP (1) Here is what I suggest : 1 - Follow-up with them until you're satisfied that they really don't want to pay you. 2 - Never use threats or vulgarities! Keep copies of your communication and their responses to you. 3 - Get advice from BBB.org/us or BBB/canada ( many of these companies are in Canada ) 4 - Check out reviews regarding them if they exist in the BBB.org 5 - If they're not, then check out reviews in WF & DP STEP (2) If you cannot settle this and the amount is big, GET A LAWYER STEP (3) Now, if the above cannot help and you cant afford a lawayer, then you can start ASKING in WF & DP. Just mention that it is a complain. Don't use bad words, make yourself known you're upset. Step up the pressure, USE ANGRY WORDS. POST YOUR COMMUNICATIONS AS WELL and mention the people you are dealing with. If the above cannot settle matters amicably, STEP UP THE PRESSURE. STEP (4) Start making 10 VIDEOS about them and upload them in 20 VIDEO SITES. So thats 200 videos on the net ! State your issues clearly and professionally. Again, don't use bad words, make yourself known you're upset and angry of the situation. ADVICE PEOPLE NOT TO USE THEM ANYMORE. Right after you finished uploading the videos, MAKE SURE YOU TWIT and POST THEM in FACEBOOK. YOU WILL GET SYMPATHY from someone of authority who WILL TAKE ACTIONS. You will, in your actions, stopped others from getting "screwed" by the company. YOU WILL GET THE ATTENTION OF ADVERTISERS ( merchants ) and this will slower the brisk business that has brought them to their current level. I bet you can settle it before you finished uploading the video.. If you're not truthful and if you have done something wrong that made them kicked you out of their NETWORK, then get ready to be sued. You get to choose your actions actually.
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12-17-2010, 07:56 AM	#18
ukbuddy2 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: dorset, uk Posts: 271 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? join the network using different details then when they phone you to verify account you will have somebody to talk too
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12-17-2010, 12:11 PM	#20
mtmjohn CPA Networks Reviewer War Room Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pandora Posts: 3,183 Thanks: 1,352 Thanked 712 Times in 559 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? I'd strongly recommend you stick to 3-5 large cpa networks with great reputations, such as neverblue, ewanetwork, and copeac etc. It is not necessary for it to lose money or take risky chances.
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12-20-2010, 12:16 PM	#22
NothingLess Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 62 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? Alright the network is called Mailer's network. I've been trying to contact them through every source of communication and still no word of payment or even any other help.

12-21-2010, 01:25 PM	#30
PrivateCitizen HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 195 Thanks: 18 Thanked 38 Times in 25 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? Yeah, I found those guys on Offervault too. Their payouts seemed pretty nice, so I applied to the network. Never heard back from them, lucky for me...

12-21-2010, 05:28 PM	#31
etidd Aspiring Warrior Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: atlanta, ga Posts: 73 Thanks: 20 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Social Networking Contact Info	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? i'm surprised no one has said this... why not pursue a lawsuit?? sue them!

12-22-2010, 04:28 PM	#33
NothingLess Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 62 Thanks: 5 Thanked 17 Times in 8 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? Yea thanks guys, I will only work with reliable and trusted networks from here on out, no matter how high payouts are in other networks...just not worth it.

12-25-2010, 09:59 PM	#34
media500 Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 24 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? what network was that?

12-25-2010, 11:57 PM	#35
tclo43 Warrior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? If you were using blackhatting methods dont expect it back buddy.
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12-26-2010, 12:48 AM	#36
aljurians Active Warrior Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 72 Thanks: 10 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Contact Info	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? Mailer's network I have seen their offers in offervault..there are email submits like 2.6 i think..

12-26-2010, 03:52 AM	#37
marketwarrior06 Advanced Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 560 Thanks: 14 Thanked 42 Times in 37 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? sorry for you bro... i think before publishing the CPA network name you should try to be sure that you are right and haven't done any wrong.ok? at first wait for few more days.

12-26-2010, 04:14 AM	#38
ukbuddy2 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: dorset, uk Posts: 271 Thanks: 3 Thanked 16 Times in 15 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? have any of you guys let offervault know!!! most of the networks there are pretty ok but I woul dstick to say 4 or 5 big networks and don't mess them about - i
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01-12-2011, 01:29 AM	#40
Mr Media Online Warrior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Vancouver Island Posts: 29 Thanks: 2 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? I just applied to their network as well..., saw the Offervault email outlining their network. I will follow-up with my contact @ Mailers network and mention the comments on here. Missed a call from a David Black last week... I am a bit hesitant to start anything with them now as well.
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01-12-2011, 03:54 AM	#41
hilhilginger HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 274 Thanks: 50 Thanked 15 Times in 15 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? It is sad to learn that you have stuck up with mailer;s network and lost your effort end up with no payment. This was a story with many in the crowd who lose their money with scam network. I know there are good CPA network around here who pays special attention to new bees and help them for a couple of months to earn.
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01-12-2011, 04:24 AM	#42
badboy_Nick Super Affiliate War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 1,255 Thanks: 3 Thanked 186 Times in 159 Posts	Re: CPA Network will NOT payout, what can I do? if you earned it legitimately ... send a letter from a lawyer or go to a debt collection agency. If you did some BH stuff, you wont get that money. Period. Any questions just let me know Nick
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