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Guys, I found some people offering make a revenue of leads. Do you ever use this method on making your cpa leads gets earned? Please advice, I'm on the way to hire some guy on fiverr The guy profile on fiverr: hxxp://fiverr.com/users/leaddeliver I cannot put URL at this time, so change the hxxp to http I think it will be great if he can drive my 10 leads in just for $5. Besides or in other thing, my leads commission are 4 EURO per lead. Thanks in Advance. |
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You will end up getting banned from the affiliate network.
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It called as blackhat. Dont use that method unless you want to get banned.
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I won't use such a tactic. CPA network can detect fraud clicks. That's why many complaint the conversions are very low or even to zero. Let's things run naturally like organic search is much safer and fair to advertiser. Just mainly my 2 cents opinion. |
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...and people wonder why it's so hard to get into legitimate affiliate networks...
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It's obvious that it would be considered BH and the network would ban your account. This needs to be a win win game, and with this technique I can't see how the advertiser makes money. William
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Thank you for asking ahead of time. A lot of people assume it's okay without reading our rules and later get banned as a result, which leaves them with a very bad impression of us. Paying someone to complete our offers would result in a lot of revenue for you, but no revenue for our advertiser (low quality). If we could find a way to effectively monetize this promotion method, we would allow it. If you need another idea for a niche, please check out our CPAlead Marketplace and the Warrior Special Offers. |
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He didn't ask if it was ok - he asked if it would be profitable. I've noticed quite a few who do CPA aren't worried about being honest - only about being caught. Of course, that's true in other areas of work and life, too. kay |
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| Krazy Kenster War Room Member | Quote:
Good point. In my opinion, its not even worth getting into CPA if your vision is this short-sighted. This is a business and its important to approach it as such. Trying to pull a quick one just isnt good business. I would suggest picking a free traffic source and just work your tail off to master it and set up a legitimate and passive income stream | |
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You will get banned very quickly and all your payments will be withheld! So, never try to do such a thing.
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OK. some curious mind questions. People already said send legitmate trafic instead of paying some one to do offer because it will be a win win situation and advertiser makes money. So here is my question, for example say a free sign up offer: how in da world does it make a single difference if some one from a legitimate source signed that free sign up or some one who gets paid? thas a free ign up anyway? can some one explain?
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CPA is supposed to be a win win situation, because it's impossible for an advertiser to pay you hundreds of dollars without getting a ruturn on their investment. That would be a donation. ![]() William
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| >> STOP... << Stop struggling alone. Stop wasting time. Stop being scammed. | ||
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| Krazy Kenster War Room Member | Quote:
Agreed. Generating bogus traffic wont make you the big bucks. Sometimes people do bluefart stuff and then throw in some junk traffic so temporarily make the stats lok good but then they just jump around from network to network with their futures and incomes fading as networks share fraud lists. At the end of the day, putting ethics and morals aside, it makes more financial sense to stick with legitimate promotion, for YOUR sake and for OUR sake as an industry | |
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| You take my question very clear. We all know about the risks that we will faces if fraud are detected on our revenue. But everything will be ok if the advertiser got benefits from our did and action, right?!
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| Advanced Warrior Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: From Liverpool, UK Living on the Costa Blanca & Amsterdam, NL
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Why don't you go an get an incentive script? That way you can reward people to compete your offers all day long without having to worry about getting banned from networks. The #1 incentive marketing script on the web | FSRevolution It also depends on the network in question. Maxbounty for example do have incentive offers but I know for a fact through talking to AM's there that they frown upon incentive stuff. If you want to go down this road (which is bluefart) you would be better off going with networks like pointclicktrack, instadollaz, adscend media etc. I think you would get away with it (for a while anyway). |
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| Krazy Kenster War Room Member | Quote:
But if you are paying for somebody to fill out the leads I can assure you the advertiser will not get any benefit. There are ways to promote an offer that don't exactly meet the guidelines of the offer but still convert on the backend....in my opinion, this is a calculated risk marketers can take and more times than not it turns out ok. BUT, when the advertiser doesn't benefit like in the scenario of paying people to fill out offers, then more times then none nobody wins. You will probably end up losing money because you wont get paid any commissions. Here is the thing.. The advertiser isn't paying for an email address in an email submit, they are paying for the ability to monetize that email address. Sure you may be giving them email addresses but if those email addresses have no interest in the offer (whcih they presumably won't, they just filled it out to get paid) then that email addressed can't be monetized. | |
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No cpa network allow such thing, however you can start GPT site where users can earn points to complete cpa offers, i know few networks allow this.
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| I'll Make You Rich Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chicago, IL
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It's fraud and unethical. Even though I dislike the CPALead guys, they don't deserve that. Nobody does.
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I still can't believe the OP asked the question or "made the observation" This is not only unethical, it's illegal. The CPA networks rarely press charges, however if the numbers are big.............? ..........guess what, about 5 years ago, an organized crime "family" in NYC ran a major Adsense fraudulent click scam, everything was supposedly automated. Wanna know where those guys are now?.................cell block D !!! Federal Prison |
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Doing that would be fraud, and it wouldn't make the advertiser any money. Your account would likely be banned before you ever got paid - and you'll have a harder time making money legitimately if you get yourself banned from several networks. Affiliates that make the most money - think about the advertiser before themselves. Instead of thinking about - how can I get them to fill out the lead so I get paid and who cares what they do after that - you should take a different approach. Think about how you can deliver qualified leads to the advertiser that will make THEM money - as they are the ones paying you in the long run. If you deliver quality leads, you'll have a much better chance at a long term business in this industry. |
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You will get banned very quickly and all your payments will be withheld! dont try to do this type of things .. Try your hand on free traffic methods .. You are paying $5 for getting BH leads better you invest that money in facebook or youtube and make some long term income ...
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| HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: dorset, uk
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Got to agree with above really invest that money in something whitehat. However you may have already used your fiverr person 9and got banned!!) or not as thecase may be this is what will happen you pay your guy for each gig $5 a time - he/she gets their money you get yours at the end of the month!! compliance look at your account and see fraud leads you get banned and no money you are all your payments out of pocket!! just my 2p worht |
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Sure, I agree everyone. It is just as bad as filling them out yourself. Not worth losing all your earnings.
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It is fraud and unethical. You will also need to keep a close eye on who is filling out things on your site. For example if you have a reward site and your members are using proxies to fill out more offers you can get banned this way, even though you aren't actually doing anything wrong.
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getting referrals the hard way is the best and last for long if not for ever. I started an hub last month and it has generated more than $300 in a month likewise some other hub and sites. It may takes time and patience but it is better and safe. |
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Guys i think you all are expert and you can make a huge amount of money by doing organic search. so don't go for the BF technique. you can easily creat another account but the bad claim that you gather can't be removed from your carrier. thanks |
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You only need to really do this is the offers you're promoting are cash incentivized. If they aren't then you really don't need to do it or you'll regret it.
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They mostly use incentive or blackhat method so its not good for you
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I just read the title and concluded this is F-R-A-U-D |
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Hate to beat a dead horse here but it needs to be reinforced. Never send bogus leads or make bogus sales. It screws over the network and advertiser and will destroy your name in this game before it even begins. And just because a purchase isn't made in an offer doesn't mean that the advertiser isn't looking for something of value. An email or any other information is only valuable if it can be monetized and hiring someone to complete cpa offers will never back out as valuable for the advertiser. |
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