affiliit VS ppc coach vs ppv playbook

chuawenching · 12-29-2010, 01:06 AM

Hi everyone,

Just curious .. which course is more effective for beginners to advanced levels to take advantage for promoting cpa (main focus) and affiliate marketing (secondary).

plus which program can offer the best tools that you can take advantage.

i heard a lot of good stuff of ppv playbook.

all 3 have forums, which forums are the most helpful and willing to support ... (i know warrior forum is good, but looking for more private & closer support)

which program provides step by step video courses with good audio plus i don't need to search into forums to learn ...

which one do you recommend?

again my focus is cpa offers preferred paid methods (since i am using some free traffic here).

i am looking at some complementary course.

any help? Thanks in advance.

williamrs · 12-29-2010, 06:52 AM

I think that you should make your choice based on the traffic sources that you want to work with. All the 3 programs have great reviews and can produce solid results, but Afiliit is better for free traffic, PPC-Coach for PPC and PPV Playbook for PPV, so you have 3 different things.

Decide on what traffic source you want to work with and you will have decided on the program.

William

blog · 12-29-2010, 07:22 AM

William is right!

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamrs

I think that you should make your choice based on the traffic sources that you want to work with. All the 3 programs have great reviews and can produce solid results, but Afiliit is better for free traffic, PPC-Coach for PPC and PPV Playbook for PPV, so you have 3 different things.

Decide on what traffic source you want to work with and you will have decided on the program.

William

uzair21 · 12-29-2010, 07:53 AM

PPVPlaybook has info on almost all traffic sources. So does PPC-Coach. Depends on what you want to focus on though. Both have their field of expertise.

hilhilginger · 12-29-2010, 09:19 AM

PPV playbook is costly .I want to try some free stuff

marketwarrior06 · 12-29-2010, 09:34 AM

yes all the three programs are great. people are making thousands of $ by using them. you should Google it to find the best one by reading reviews in other forums and blogs

clenard77 · 12-29-2010, 02:16 PM

I'm not sure if anyone in this thread is actually a member of any of these sites, but I will say that every site is going to have it's strength.

As an owner of Affiliit.com, I have also been a member of all of the mentioned programs. We're not perfect on any level, that's for sure. But I do want to state what we do and don't do...

Where we succeed is by doing far more one on one help than any other site I've ever heard of that doesn't charge hundreds per hour for coaching.

I've personally spend most of my down time helping others out through the forums and private messaging when the discussion may be a bit too 'personal' (sensitive data, keyword info, etc). I've actually gone in to help people work on their sites, develop better keyword strategies, etc.

Chris (my partner at Affiliit and a WF member) does the same thing with Paid Traffic. We won't claim to have the most active forums or use that in our sales pitch to act as if that should be a selling point, because that's a bit backwards in our minds. We think the users should have the training right there, right when they login. Having to search through cluttered forums is far too time consuming and most of that data is old and not even useful. We don't reply to private messages with stuff like "great question, you should ask that on the forum" 48 hours after you send the PM. You'll always get a very detailed reply within 12 hours, but usually within 2 hours. We have detailed training and don't rely on our members to be the coaches to our newer members, we make sure we help all of our members if and when we can.

Our program is up to date and focused on Internet Marketing as a whole (utilizing traffic sources in various ways), using Affiliate Marketing as the source to making money. But we also teach things on different levels - such as SEO for Authority sites and real world SEO for Affiliates. There are big differences and we feel that our members should be able to now as much as possible. A lot of programs have decent training modules that teach vague, general topics, while allowing their older members to further the discussion. While that's a good thing for some, it's not what the members pay for. That's why we have detailed modules and are very active in making sure that we answer any and all questions our members may have.

We do not have custom scripts for our members. We teach you how to use Solid scripts such as Wordpress, Tracking 202, etc. -- we're not in the programming business, we're in the training Business, so that's where our focus is. While we have good tools for helping our members, we realize that there's plenty of free and paid tools that have actual talented programmers who do that for a living. I've been programming since 2004 and I don't feel that I could re-create a tracking script that would be worth the time to support when we already have Tracking 202, Bevo, etc.

I think the biggest difference between us and most of our competitors is that we are real affiliates who do this for a living. We don't make most of our money through coaching, we make our money through internet marketing. I own hundreds of sites that are based on SEO, with many utilizing PPC and even Media Buys. I literally work on SEO every day of the week. I have been doing SEO since the early millenium. It's not a hobby or something I learned so that I could teach it...neither is PPC, which I've been doing since 2005. Chris (my partner at affiliit) has a very similar background, although mostly based on Paid traffic (cpv/ppv, ppc, facebook, etc)

We're currently upgrading a lot of things, but by the first week of the new year affiliit.com will be completely upgraded with a ton of new training material.

Hope that helps!

jeffrey73 · 12-29-2010, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamrs

All the 3 programs have great reviews and can produce solid results, but Afiliit is better for free traffic, PPC-Coach for PPC and PPV Playbook for PPV, so you have 3 different things.

Just to clarify 1 thing, yes Affiliit is great at training SEO. Not any guru-hashed crap either.

But when I originally started there, I learned everything I needed to know about Facebook. ChrisBA trains Facebook methods, Polls, and even some stuff around PPV. They also have tools for PPC and other paid methods. You can also ask the moderators questions and they will reply to you personally, unlike many other places.

They have videos on Yahoo Answers, List Building, WordPress, etc. So Affili-It is not geared specifically towards SEO by any means. Even though free methods are touched on heavily.

abookyent · 12-29-2010, 03:38 PM

I am a memeber of ppvplaybook.com the paid forum... its a great place . great info . David is a great helpful guy

chuawenching · 12-29-2010, 05:58 PM

Thanks for sharing everyone.

so i assume affilliIT uses SEO and free methods to promote cpa offers?

Tell me a bit about facebook that ChrisBA trains? Are those facebook Ads or fan pages? Does he teach basic or a real case study and comply to latest facebook TOS? Are those in video formats?

jeffrey73 · 12-29-2010, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuawenching

Thanks for sharing everyone.

so i assume affilliIT uses SEO and free methods to promote cpa offers?

Tell me a bit about facebook that ChrisBA trains? Are those facebook Ads or fan pages? Does he teach basic or a real case study and comply to latest facebook TOS? Are those in video formats?

No way man. I don't think Chris even does any SEO, YouTube or article marketing. When it first started, it was focused mainly around PPC and Facebook paid advertising. He is a pro with PPC, PPV and media buying. And all his training revolves around CPA offers. His training also consists of answering you LIVE on the forums.

The video training is mostly for Yahoo Answers, Video Marketing, WordPress and List Building.

chuawenching · 12-29-2010, 11:38 PM

hi Jeffrey,

so chris teaches PPC and Facebook paid advertising via video lessons? correct me if i am wrong? or is it more like a webinar thing where i need to attend?

Mike Morgan. · 12-30-2010, 01:45 AM

Even though , I have tried the three products that you mentioned , from what I read from this and other forums ...

PPVplaybook is great if you want to learn PPV stuff. PPVplaybook forum includes PPC stuff too.

If you are interested to learn more on PPC , PPCcoach is the place .

Hope it helps .
Mike

ChrisBa · 12-30-2010, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chuawenching

hi Jeffrey,

so chris teaches PPC and Facebook paid advertising via video lessons? correct me if i am wrong? or is it more like a webinar thing where i need to attend?

Sorry I'm a little late at chiming in

We (at Affiliit.com) do go over Paid methods as well as the SEO and Free traffic methods, we have several techniques that go over FB, POF, PPC, CPV/PPV - within these techniques there are written training as well as video training. We are currently working on doing an overhaul on our videos (and the rest of our content), we have done a few webinars in the past, but all the data is available from the site

I hope this helps!

Chris

ChrisBa · 12-30-2010, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamrs

I think that you should make your choice based on the traffic sources that you want to work with. All the 3 programs have great reviews and can produce solid results, but Afiliit is better for free traffic, PPC-Coach for PPC and PPV Playbook for PPV, so you have 3 different things.

Decide on what traffic source you want to work with and you will have decided on the program.

William

Thanks for the kind words!!

Chris

oranje · 12-31-2010, 10:02 AM

howdy,

i was wondering if anyone knows whether ppvplaybook (or anyone else) has a tool that allows you to look at the ads that pop up from cpv campaigns created on adon network.

i want to see my ads popup as they would for a usa based surfer who has
the ad triggering app installed, but i'm based outside the usa so i can't see the ads.

plus i don't know which toolbar or game or app or whatever causes adon's ads to pop up (actually pop under for adon).

seems someone once mentioned ppvplaybook has such a tool, but not sure. anyone know for sure? thanks kindly.

12-29-2010, 01:06 AM	#1
chuawenching A Day dreamer Join Date: May 2009 Location: Selangor, Malaysia Posts: 266 Thanks: 100 Thanked 21 Times in 13 Posts	affiliit VS ppc coach vs ppv playbook Hi everyone, Just curious .. which course is more effective for beginners to advanced levels to take advantage for promoting cpa (main focus) and affiliate marketing (secondary). plus which program can offer the best tools that you can take advantage. i heard a lot of good stuff of ppv playbook. all 3 have forums, which forums are the most helpful and willing to support ... (i know warrior forum is good, but looking for more private & closer support) which program provides step by step video courses with good audio plus i don't need to search into forums to learn ... which one do you recommend? again my focus is cpa offers preferred paid methods (since i am using some free traffic here). i am looking at some complementary course. any help? Thanks in advance.

12-29-2010, 06:52 AM	#2
williamrs Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,496 Thanks: 174 Thanked 1,159 Times in 614 Posts	Re: affiliit VS ppc coach vs ppv playbook I think that you should make your choice based on the traffic sources that you want to work with. All the 3 programs have great reviews and can produce solid results, but Afiliit is better for free traffic, PPC-Coach for PPC and PPV Playbook for PPV, so you have 3 different things. Decide on what traffic source you want to work with and you will have decided on the program. William
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uzair21 Active Warrior Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 35 Thanks: 4 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: affiliit VS ppc coach vs ppv playbook PPVPlaybook has info on almost all traffic sources. So does PPC-Coach. Depends on what you want to focus on though. Both have their field of expertise.

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marketwarrior06 Advanced Warrior Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 560 Thanks: 14 Thanked 42 Times in 37 Posts	Re: affiliit VS ppc coach vs ppv playbook yes all the three programs are great. people are making thousands of $ by using them. you should Google it to find the best one by reading reviews in other forums and blogs
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12-29-2010, 02:16 PM	#7
clenard77 www.Affiliit.com Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 63 Thanks: 3 Thanked 7 Times in 5 Posts	Re: affiliit VS ppc coach vs ppv playbook I'm not sure if anyone in this thread is actually a member of any of these sites, but I will say that every site is going to have it's strength. As an owner of Affiliit.com, I have also been a member of all of the mentioned programs. We're not perfect on any level, that's for sure. But I do want to state what we do and don't do... Where we succeed is by doing far more one on one help than any other site I've ever heard of that doesn't charge hundreds per hour for coaching. I've personally spend most of my down time helping others out through the forums and private messaging when the discussion may be a bit too 'personal' (sensitive data, keyword info, etc). I've actually gone in to help people work on their sites, develop better keyword strategies, etc. Chris (my partner at Affiliit and a WF member) does the same thing with Paid Traffic. We won't claim to have the most active forums or use that in our sales pitch to act as if that should be a selling point, because that's a bit backwards in our minds. We think the users should have the training right there, right when they login. Having to search through cluttered forums is far too time consuming and most of that data is old and not even useful. We don't reply to private messages with stuff like "great question, you should ask that on the forum" 48 hours after you send the PM. You'll always get a very detailed reply within 12 hours, but usually within 2 hours. We have detailed training and don't rely on our members to be the coaches to our newer members, we make sure we help all of our members if and when we can. Our program is up to date and focused on Internet Marketing as a whole (utilizing traffic sources in various ways), using Affiliate Marketing as the source to making money. But we also teach things on different levels - such as SEO for Authority sites and real world SEO for Affiliates. There are big differences and we feel that our members should be able to now as much as possible. A lot of programs have decent training modules that teach vague, general topics, while allowing their older members to further the discussion. While that's a good thing for some, it's not what the members pay for. That's why we have detailed modules and are very active in making sure that we answer any and all questions our members may have. We do not have custom scripts for our members. We teach you how to use Solid scripts such as Wordpress, Tracking 202, etc. -- we're not in the programming business, we're in the training Business, so that's where our focus is. While we have good tools for helping our members, we realize that there's plenty of free and paid tools that have actual talented programmers who do that for a living. I've been programming since 2004 and I don't feel that I could re-create a tracking script that would be worth the time to support when we already have Tracking 202, Bevo, etc. I think the biggest difference between us and most of our competitors is that we are real affiliates who do this for a living. We don't make most of our money through coaching, we make our money through internet marketing. I own hundreds of sites that are based on SEO, with many utilizing PPC and even Media Buys. I literally work on SEO every day of the week. I have been doing SEO since the early millenium. It's not a hobby or something I learned so that I could teach it...neither is PPC, which I've been doing since 2005. Chris (my partner at affiliit) has a very similar background, although mostly based on Paid traffic (cpv/ppv, ppc, facebook, etc) We're currently upgrading a lot of things, but by the first week of the new year affiliit.com will be completely upgraded with a ton of new training material. Hope that helps!
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12-29-2010, 03:38 PM	#9
abookyent Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 17 Thanks: 4 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: affiliit VS ppc coach vs ppv playbook I am a memeber of ppvplaybook.com the paid forum... its a great place . great info . David is a great helpful guy

12-29-2010, 05:58 PM	#10
chuawenching A Day dreamer Join Date: May 2009 Location: Selangor, Malaysia Posts: 266 Thanks: 100 Thanked 21 Times in 13 Posts	Re: affiliit VS ppc coach vs ppv playbook Thanks for sharing everyone. so i assume affilliIT uses SEO and free methods to promote cpa offers? Tell me a bit about facebook that ChrisBA trains? Are those facebook Ads or fan pages? Does he teach basic or a real case study and comply to latest facebook TOS? Are those in video formats?

12-29-2010, 11:38 PM	#12
chuawenching A Day dreamer Join Date: May 2009 Location: Selangor, Malaysia Posts: 266 Thanks: 100 Thanked 21 Times in 13 Posts	Re: affiliit VS ppc coach vs ppv playbook hi Jeffrey, so chris teaches PPC and Facebook paid advertising via video lessons? correct me if i am wrong? or is it more like a webinar thing where i need to attend?

12-30-2010, 01:45 AM	#13
Mike Morgan. Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 2,688 Blog Entries: 42 Thanks: 569 Thanked 827 Times in 274 Posts	Re: affiliit VS ppc coach vs ppv playbook Even though , I have tried the three products that you mentioned , from what I read from this and other forums ... PPVplaybook is great if you want to learn PPV stuff. PPVplaybook forum includes PPC stuff too. If you are interested to learn more on PPC , PPCcoach is the place . Hope it helps . Mike
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12-31-2010, 10:02 AM	#16
oranje Warrior Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: affiliit VS ppc coach vs ppv playbook howdy, i was wondering if anyone knows whether ppvplaybook (or anyone else) has a tool that allows you to look at the ads that pop up from cpv campaigns created on adon network. i want to see my ads popup as they would for a usa based surfer who has the ad triggering app installed, but i'm based outside the usa so i can't see the ads. plus i don't know which toolbar or game or app or whatever causes adon's ads to pop up (actually pop under for adon). seems someone once mentioned ppvplaybook has such a tool, but not sure. anyone know for sure? thanks kindly.