Duped by network A. Would you work with their brokers?

theone85 · 01-31-2011, 07:44 PM

If you were duped out of money by network A,
would you work with network B that brokers offers
for network A?

Just wondering how network B gets their payments.

Do they get them from network A or from the advertiser
directly?

sloanjim · 02-01-2011, 08:29 AM

NO...asking for trouble I.M.H.O. Why who was it? I too am in the process of getting duped i think.

azmanar · 02-01-2011, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theone85

If you were duped out of money by network A,
would you work with network B that brokers offers
for network A?

Just wondering how network B gets their payments.

Do they get them from network A or from the advertiser
directly?

I've seen several offers by major networks brokering offers from other major networks. Must be because of their exclusive ties with the advertisers.

Fortunately, the networks I'm working with are good.

In your case :
- To play safe, you could ignore such offers, or
- If you feel B is a good network, you can still promote the offers. Usually networks have budgets to pay ahead.
- Whether the network gets paid or not from the other networks, is not an issue for you.

My opinion.

OnlineMarketingSys · 02-01-2011, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theone85

If you were duped out of money by network A,
would you work with network B that brokers offers
for network A?

Just wondering how network B gets their payments.

Do they get them from network A or from the advertiser
directly?

Network B get's their money from Network A. Now if the merchant isn't paying or the network goes bust (or is shaddy) then network B isn't going to get paid. Or if they do pay out, it's just to keep goodwill and they are doing it out of their pocket.

Networks are at a lot of risk, from shaddy merchants and other networks who don't pay. So this is not at all uncommon.

azmanar · 02-01-2011, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnlineMarketingSys

Network B get's their money from Network A. Now if the merchant isn't paying or the network goes bust (or is shaddy) then network B isn't going to get paid. Or if they do pay out, it's just to keep goodwill and they are doing it out of their pocket.

Networks are at a lot of risk, from shaddy merchants and other networks who don't pay. So this is not at all uncommon.

True.

Just another matter though. I've seen these well-known shady offers : BizOps by Robert Allen & Anthony Robinson. Major, major complaints about these 2 all over the net.

Why are they still being offered by networks? They pay well?

ChrisBa · 02-01-2011, 08:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theone85

If you were duped out of money by network A,
would you work with network B that brokers offers
for network A?

Just wondering how network B gets their payments.

Do they get them from network A or from the advertiser
directly?

I guess the question is.. how were you duped? it's really hard to answer the question without knowing specifics.. i probably wouldnt want to work with anyone associated with them, but again it all depends on the specifics.

OnlineMarketingSys · 02-02-2011, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by azmanar

True.

Just another matter though. I've seen these well-known shady offers : BizOps by Robert Allen & Anthony Robinson. Major, major complaints about these 2 all over the net.

Why are they still being offered by networks? They pay well?

Bizop offers pay extremely well in most cases or have a $1-3 cpa for an email submit. The merchants win, because they get everyone and their brother to promote their offers, and they make a TON of money off each person that they either add to their list or signup.

So as long as they keep paying their affiliate networks or get in trouble with their merchant accounts (who's handling visa/mc/amex payments), you are rarely going to see an offer pulled.

Kenster · 02-02-2011, 09:37 AM

Normally networking that deny rightfully earned commissions won't be around for long, so I wouldnt work with them or any of their brokered offers to other networks.

With that said, most networks don't just deny rightfully earned commissions. Normally its because the affiliate promoted against the terms and thus the advertiser wont pay up. Other times its the advertiser that won't pay on rightfully earned commissions so the network is sort of stuck in the middle. In that case, its more of an advertiser than a network issue.

So, you really need to know if your commissions were denied because you broke the rules or not and whether it was an advertiser issue (not a network issue) before determining what you should do!

theone85 · 02-02-2011, 11:05 AM

Thanks for your response all.

Much appreciated.

01-31-2011, 07:44 PM	#1
theone85 Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Duped by network A. Would you work with their brokers? If you were duped out of money by network A, would you work with network B that brokers offers for network A? Just wondering how network B gets their payments. Do they get them from network A or from the advertiser directly?

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theone85 Active Warrior Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 56 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Duped by network A. Would you work with their brokers? Thanks for your response all. Much appreciated.