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Old 01-04-2009, 10:32 PM   #951
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Yes, Arbitrage usually means zero risk... with Arbritage betting for example, you are guaranteed a profit regardless of the end scenario. Ofcourse, you have to stake great amounts to see a good margin.
Agreed entirely. This is not arbitrage, period. It is "buy low sell high". TDBrian covered this fact quite well earlier in the thread.

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I don't know how anyone can get around finding CPA programs outside the US
Through the use of proxy servers. CPA marketers living outside the US do it all the time.

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and would these known CPA networks/programs accept publishers with no website and no proven history of gaining high levels of traffic?
Yes they will. You had better know how to "talk the talk" however, in order to convince them that you are serious. I know countless newbie CPA marketers from all over the world who managed to get accepted at several networks when they were starting out.

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To think that they are asking for a huge upfront fee and the mere fact that they have delayed alot of the coverage doesn't look promising...
Also agreed... and it's unfortunate. I know the two guys behind the product personally, and they REALLY know their stuff. But Brad Fallon being handed the launch, appears to have been a pretty unfortunate mistake. Then again, can $5million from their first product launch, be called a mistake? I suppose it's all in the point of view of the observer.

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just seems very risky to me with no true guarantee.
Nope, and there can never be a true guarantee in business. Even true financial arbitrage has the possibility of going wrong - albeit HIGHLY unlikely, the probability of failure is never truly ZERO. Running a business or being self employed or whatever you wish to call it, has a large amount of risk. That risk is also commensurate with the reward on the other side. I haven't had a "paycheck" in about 10 years, and in that 10 years I've declared bankruptcy and had multiple foreclosures. But guess what? I still don't have a job and never will again (other than the job I often create for myself by taking on too many projects! LOL)

CPA marketing CAN be very lucrative. I'm not in the 6-figure-per-day league (yet) but I am at the 4-figure daily level. However as nice as that is, I always urge people to not make CPA marketing - or really ANY affiliate marketing - your sole source of income. Diversify your risk, create some products, buy private label rights if you must, whatever. But make sure that if affiliate marketing was declared illegal tomorrow - you'd be just fine without it.

Definitely an interesting thread, to be sure!

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Old 01-04-2009, 10:39 PM   #952
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Macroking/Johnathan, that has to be the best group of words I have read on this subject...couldnt agree more...even the simple site I created just to join the networks with no hassles, I made sure it brings me money too!

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I was one of about 140 people that attended the Aymen and the Arbitrage Conspiracy one day event. I happen to be an affiliate of the product as well but this message would be the same whether or not I was an affiliate. The day was fast and trying to keep up was a little difficult at times, but on behalf of Aymen it was a difficult task to present a 12 week training program over the course of one day is quite a feat to accompllish. I went in to the room that morning not knowing a whole lot about CPA marketing, but thanks to Aymen and team I came out of that room that day probably knowing more about CPA then somebody having a years experience. This guy was that knowledgable. Far more experienced people in the room than I were glued to the presentation and were as amazed as I. When a speaker can get the likes of Eban Pagen, Mike Filsaime, Russell Brunson, Buck Rizvi, Dr. Mike, and Tellman Knudson, you better know you have the goods to hold that kind of an audience. I think if any of the readers were there I'm sure you would be more inclined to believe the kind of money they are claiming to make is true. Anyway I just wanted to give my insight being there at the event in Vegas in Dec.

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That's what I thought at first, too. But when I went to Investwords definition of arbitrage to look it up i found the definition as:

"Attempting to profit by exploiting price differences of identical or similar financial instruments, on different markets or in different forms. The ideal version is riskless arbitrage." with riskless arbitrage defined as:

"A risk-free transaction consisting of purchasing an asset at one price and simultaneously selling that same asset at a higher price, generating a profit on the difference."

I don't know if most people assume arbitrage is riskless arbitrage - but I would guess that's what whoever the copywriters/planners behind the launch were counting on.

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I was one of about 140 people that attended the Aymen and the Arbitrage Conspiracy one day event. I happen to be an affiliate of the product as well but this message would be the same whether or not I was an affiliate. The day was fast and trying to keep up was a little difficult at times, but on behalf of Aymen it was a difficult task to present a 12 week training program over the course of one day is quite a feat to accompllish. I went in to the room that morning not knowing a whole lot about CPA marketing, but thanks to Aymen and team I came out of that room that day probably knowing more about CPA then somebody having a years experience. This guy was that knowledgable. Far more experienced people in the room than I were glued to the presentation and were as amazed as I. When a speaker can get the likes of Eban Pagen, Mike Filsaime, Russell Brunson, Buck Rizvi, Dr. Mike, and Tellman Knudson, you better know you have the goods to hold that kind of an audience. I think if any of the readers were there I'm sure you would be more inclined to believe the kind of money they are claiming to make is true. Anyway I just wanted to give my insight being there at the event in Vegas in Dec.
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Course does sound interesting, might check it out.
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I think sometimes the Websters or similar text book definition is not always the same when put into real world. There is an Arbitrage type of transaction in the Stock and Bond market, and as we all know the stock and bond market is anything but RISKLESS. There is also an Arbitrage in the Import/Export business as well....I think with all launches there is something about the marketing with each and every launch that someone will be offended at. We all know there is a little grey mixed in with all that black and white when it comes to marketing. But I think the most important thing to remember is and what we must ask ourselves is "Is the product worth the money we pay for it and can we learn enough from it to prosper ourselves" Having been at this event myself and putting into practice what I learned with CPA, I can speak for myself and I can without a doubt say that this product is worth several times it's cost and if you truly take what you learn and put it into practice there is no reason why anybody can't eventually make the kind of money they make with their CPA system.

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Sorry, I'll take the aff link off.
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Is there a way to contact Ayman? email?
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I reckon he would be pretty busy today.

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Less than 24 hours to go....? and they are pushing it quite hard still. Making it sound like life will be quite rough without buying it. Hmm maybe they are right. I think it will be a good program and as lessons are out now, I guess we will start to find out. At least in the last email I got he talks about needing a cash balance to finance it before profit comes, I was glad to see that.

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It has started.

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I have listened to a great deal of the content from Lesson I.

It's all beginner stuff.

I'm going through the transcripts and I'll see if they ramp it up next week.

I hope they do.

There was really not very much meat here....

Sigh.

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Thanks Harlan, appreciate that...will stay tuned.

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I'm having trouble seeing the videos especially 8,9 and 10. The audio is comming through ok but the visual seems to be stuck on the same spot for long periods of time. Can anybody put forward a possible solution to this for me.
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I have listened to a great deal of the content from Lesson I.

It's all beginner stuff.

I'm going through the transcripts and I'll see if they ramp it up next week.

I hope they do.

There was really not very much meat here....

Sigh.

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Harlan they did promise to make it Step-By-Step for beginners. They can hardly jump in at blackbelt level..

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Harlan they did promise to make it Step-By-Step for beginners. They can hardly jump in at blackbelt level..
James, I know you have a vested interest here. I don't.

Their guarantee says do at least two campaigns a week.

On the basis of what they taught, no one would be able to do that.

James, the clock is half way through my refund period (from the day I bought).

How convenient.

I'd really like to be convinced by them there is something valuable here.

So far, as a consumer, there isn't.

So I'm giving them another week.

I'll review the materials again. I'll print out the manuals.

But just because someone knows how to MAKE money, doesn't mean they know how to TEACH it.

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James, I know you have a vested interest here. I don't.

Their guarantee says do at least two campaigns a week.

On the basis of what they taught, no one would be able to do that.

James, the clock is half way through my refund period (from the day I bought).

How convenient.

I'd really like to be convinced by them there is something valuable here.

So far, as a consumer, there isn't.

So I'm giving them another week.

I'll review the materials again. I'll print out the manuals.

But just because someone knows how to MAKE money, doesn't mean they know how to TEACH it.

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That all makes sense. You are a high level competent so your trigger point for convincing will be higher than the average bear.

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That all makes sense. You are a high level competent so your trigger point for convincing will be higher than the average bear.
Okay James, answer the question.

You have access to the materials.

On the basis of what they have taught so far, could someone run a profitable campaign to be in compliance of their guarantee?

Or did they just set everyone up to fail?

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Just went through first weeks videos...... Emmanual sounds like a really nice guy and he is very genuine, top notch attitude that boosts your morale while training. HOWEVER, I have to say they should have picked someone else that can articulate clearly. I figured out why I get a headache (and anxiety, believe it or not) after a good sitting....my brain is rearranging his words for me in order to make sense of what hes saying. Did that make sense? OMG....its rubbing off on me. LOL
Its all good I guess, just gotta drink more brain juice.

I gotta say, I am usually a good judge of character, and so far Aymen and Emmanual sound very geniune, UNLIKE the sales page that was typical hype. I agree, the first week was WAY too basic, I mean they gave us a couple weeks to figure out alot more than what was covered in this weeks lesson.

Sure has an impressive blueprint, unfortunately for a quick learner such as myself, they are saving the best for last. I HATE waiting......
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I think what you all will find is that Aymen and Emmanual wanted this course to be for everyone, from the newbie all the up to experienced CPA Marketer. If they had started out with the tuff stuff the newbies would be complaining. I think if all is patient you will find that things are going to get a lot more technical and for the experienced, the intention was to reach a very broad audience.
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Well, it seems if they have a trial period then they better deliver, and on a good pace, what good is some great content if no one is around to absorb it. Im learning alot from it even from a product launching example and I am taking notes at the comments to know how to deliver and how people want to learn and how fast. Win Win from where Im sittin! Warrior forum is one cool resource.

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Emmanuel is constantly banging his mouse during the videos, and I find that a tad annoying.
Not having the shock and awe videos up is bad form. I am quite sure that this is one of the questions they're getting that they are ignoring.
Having said that, I do realize focusing on that stuff while we're learning AC is also bad form; however, they could have had those bonuses out in the month we were waiting for Lessson I.

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Or did they just set everyone up to fail?
that's an interesting point.

guarantee #1 changed during the launch- and guarantee #2 is an illusion?


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This arbitrage thing is really taking the internet marketing by storm. A lot of people are taking it well!

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interesting... I guess ill be saving my money for something else then..
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i am also agreeing, the technique isn't original . but that leave on who to go with?
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Good afternoon everyone. I am currently looking at Week 1 lessons. As a new person I am finding them helpful. I found that if I downloaded the vids and watched them in Real Player they sonded and looked much better.
How did you download the videos? I tried right clicking on the video and no download available.
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I have listened to a great deal of the content from Lesson I.

It's all beginner stuff.

I'm going through the transcripts and I'll see if they ramp it up next week.

I hope they do.

There was really not very much meat here....

Sigh.

Peace.

How beginner is beginner?
The video case studies at Cash Tactics | The Internet Marketing Blog are pretty beginner orientated and FREE but also very well done :-)

I'm thankful you guys are all posting your experiences here.

Does anyone know if Eben has started to add millions to his bottom line through Arbitrage Conspiracy like he said in the videos?

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The banging of the table is kind of grating...

However the key to success has already been spilled. It's a shocker, but you must build campaigns daily to succeed. The rest is going to be filling in the blanks.

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The banging of the table is kind of grating...

However the key to success has already been spilled. It's a shocker, but you must build campaigns daily to succeed. The rest is going to be filling in the blanks.
Agreed, but what are your thoughts on what they are teaching here in the first week?

Direct linking to email/zip submits on Google Search using the offer's URL? You can't be serious.

If people are new, and have a shiny, never used new Adwords account, setting up the campaigns in the above manner will get that account all kinds of slapped. Most new people are not going to have multiple credit cards to setup additional Adwords accounts.
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Agreed, but what are your thoughts on what they are teaching here in the first week?

Direct linking to email/zip submits on Google Search using the offer's URL? You can't be serious.

If people are new, and have a shiny, never used new Adwords account, setting up the campaigns in the above manner will get that account all kinds of slapped. Most new people are not going to have multiple credit cards to setup additional Adwords accounts.
That is discouraging.
I can't believe they would lead us down that kind of path without some greater purpose in mind. From what little I know of PPC, the first campaigns AC recommended us to create does seem to fly in the face of all that is holy.
I think I'd better shove some love to Yahoo and MSN Adcenter to post my schlocky campaigns.

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When a speaker can get the likes of Eban Pagen, Mike Filsaime, Russell Brunson, Buck Rizvi, Dr. Mike, and Tellman Knudson, you better know you have the goods to hold that kind of an audience.
Dude, they were paid to be there. It was a JV seminar. Everyone who had to pay $10k or $8k to show up basically covered the cost to get all those "figure heads" into the room. Wake up.
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Agreed, but what are your thoughts on what they are teaching here in the first week?

Direct linking to email/zip submits on Google Search using the offer's URL? You can't be serious.

If people are new, and have a shiny, never used new Adwords account, setting up the campaigns in the above manner will get that account all kinds of slapped. Most new people are not going to have multiple credit cards to setup additional Adwords accounts.
You're likely to get slapped even if you have an old account with a good history, because Google is slapping many of those offers at the domain level.

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Coming over the horizon: There will be an end to CPA as we know it. Thats why this report was created to open all our eyes.

Do you think someone would divulge his most intimate secrets if something still works even if its bringing me $10,000/month; I wouldn't?

You be the judge but I can tell you this look past the bells, whistles, and smokescreen and see what is really going on.

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Coming over the horizon: There will be an end to CPA/SEO as we know it.

Thats why this report was created to open all our eyes and shed some light on this industry.

Do you think someone would divulge his most intimate secrets if something still works even if its bringing me $10,000/month; I wouldn't?

You be the judge but I can tell you this look past the bells, whistles, and smokescreen and see what is really going on.

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P.S. Don't say I didn't tell you so.

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Coming over the horizon: There will be an end to CPA/SEO as we know it.

Thats why this report was created to open all our eyes and shed some light on this industry.

Do you think someone would divulge his most intimate secrets if something still works even if its bringing me $10,000/month; I wouldn't?

You be the judge but I can tell you this look past the bells, whistles, and smokescreen and see what is really going on.

Have a good day!

P.S. Don't say I didn't tell you so.
Twice in fact! Memorable stuff.

But actually agree with your thesis - they're not giving anything of long term value away. I am grateful how this pantomime is playing out. Anyone entering IM should be compulsory compelled to watch.

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you need to check the signature rules here. Affiliate links are not permitted.
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Opie57, why do you still have an affiliate link in your signature, when you already know it's against the rules, and you've said you'll remove it?
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Is this another launch that has got lost in crowd?
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When a company/advertiser is willing to pay double digits and even more for me to just send them a person who fills out an email address...im in it to win it...and Im going to find all the info I can to scale it up...and I really do not think CPA is going anywhere its too hot and too much money to be made...the advertiser gains a customer to market to for life and you get paid cash for it. Leads are precious, easy, and profitable.

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Is this another launch that has got lost in crowd?
Maybe your crowd.

Launch did over $5m
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Maybe your crowd.

Launch did over $5m
Let's watch the refund rate. See if they brag about that.

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Let's watch the refund rate. See if they brag about that.
Once they take down the sales page the affiliate trolls that have been posting here will all disappear and all that will be left will be the dissapointed people.

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Okay James, answer the question.

You have access to the materials.

On the basis of what they have taught so far, could someone run a profitable campaign to be in compliance of their guarantee?

Or did they just set everyone up to fail?
Harlan,

If you have the inkling I'd be curious about your thoughts as a copywriter. I was at the Thomasolu (not sure of spelling) workshop a while back and the copywriting intelligence in that room was ridiculous.

Let's say the course was a great course. I'm not saying that it is or it isn't. But let's assume for the sake of this that it is.

What type of guarantee would you have put on the course?

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Hi James,

I'm floundering with PPC can you pls send me a link to PPC Coach

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The banging of the table is kind of grating...

However the key to success has already been spilled. It's a shocker, but you must build campaigns daily to succeed. The rest is going to be filling in the blanks.
Thanks PPC Coach - what's the chance of an email with links to join your program

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I'm floundering with PPC can you pls send me a link to PPC Coach

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Agreed, adware is very easy to use with trademarked names, but make sure you get permission from the merchant before sending any traffic. They sure do notice 10,000 impressions in 5 minutes hitting their pages from you.

I also agree there has got to be more to this product then just direct linking to cpa offers. Maybe he's going to show how to land private deals, (which are awesome). Anyhow, I decided to join the fray and will give back the bulk of my commission to anyone buying their product through my link.
Hey I herd that if you use direct linking to merchants website with adwords that they give you a poor quality score, is this true?

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Did anybody order this course and wouldn't mind doing a share. I'm willing to pay half the price of the course. Why pay the entire amount, when 2 or 3 people can pool their money and share the course. As long as the random ISP access is reasonable, they'd have no issues based on their free conference call.

If anyone has the course and is interested, shoot me a P.M and we can discuss it. Thanks.
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Wow, did Tiger Woods allow you to set up a punchline marketing campaign for someone/yourself? He better not see your post, or you might run into some serious trouble...

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