GoldenEye

Aymen aint what?

The 13th Warrior

It's not needlessly if its true.

Sucking peoples money and making unfullfilled promises, bait and switch tactics, wasting peoples time and money is "needlessly".

If you advertise something, make sure your claims match your product.

Maybe even exceed claims...its called overdeliver, simple, marketing 101.

The 13 th Warrior

honestbizpro

Hey 13th Warrior,

Im totally cool with that, but no one should have to read about perverted sexual overtones. Period. Leave it at Playboy

honestbizpro

Is that right? Good to know. They are not promoting it..I just dug it up.

Has anyone ever used a PPC Service (one that creates and manages your campaigns for you) with any success?

I am sure large companies with unlimited bankrolls do it all the time.

digabot

So...it finally makes some sense.

They mentioned on the call today that "the more complex they make things, the more people request refunds".

And that is why the are catering so hard to noobs. And why the material is so painfully bad.

Kind of a strange approach if in fact they are trying to train affiliates. It would be much more advantageous to cater to people who knew a bit about what they were doing since those folks would likely turn into more powerful earners quicker.

Getting the impression that they're going to dumb down the rest of the material as well, including the business structure and management which is the only thing I was holding out for.

Sounds like Aymen listened too much to the d-bag guru buddies of his as I'm sure they told him "target the new people, they really respond to 'make a bazillion in a week' ad copy" since that's what they all use.

They were talking about match types today for crying out loud.

Disappointing since I know for a fact that these guys are doing just unreal numbers and have a lot of good knowledge that will likely not come out in this course.

Also hope Guaher Chaudhry takes a cue from this product and overdelivers with PPCF 2 on things that really help you to kick ass on the scale side.

Shift

In connection with some of the posts here about decent internet marketers, I'm sure some of you know of Ken Macarthy (sp?) of the System Seminar?

That's also where many other successful IM'ers learnt from.

It's held every year, I think it's there 16th year this year.

peterpro

This is a very good report but can you give me a good CPA site i can work with.

ToddieM

I used a company called Reach Local to promote my podiatry practice when I was very new and green to IM.
He did a good job, and it was that action that convinced me that IM is here to stay.

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digabot

Have you guys actually heard Gauher's whole presentation from The System?

It's even more general than the AC course.

The 13th Warrior

He charges $695 for his course and someone posted in the thread titled, whats the best ppc course, that this guy and Perrys stuff is good.

So far , consensus has the only hands down course, especially for beginners/newbs is Perry Marshalls course.

The others:

Gauhers stuff

Doubledigit ctr

cash tactics

ppc classroom

Luke's stuff

Looks like the way to go is Perry for basic, sound foundation and understanding, workable, get you feet wet stuff for beginners.

Get some stuff goin with Perrys material, make some money, then buy this other stuff.

All the others seem to expand to different strategies and more advanced application.

But even so, you still don't want to get burned at $695-$2000 for stuff just above basic application.

The 13 th Warrior

GoldenEye

Also hope Guaher Chaudhry takes a cue from this product and overdelivers with PPCF 2 on things that really help you to kick ass on the scale side.

I hope you are right. Judging by his obvious disapproval of Aymen using "his" Alexa strategy, I say Gauher is pissed without really saying so. He may just give up the gravy.

Maybe its all a plot. Arbitrage watering things down so all the intermediates refund JUST in time for PPC FORMULA II. They have each other's number, we know that much. AHA!

Anything goes in this world, you just never know......I actually just thought of the second part of this as I was typing in the first part....

LOL.....

The 13th Warrior

Here's another guy just can't get a definitive read on.

Either he is a secret no one wants to let out or its nothing all that special.

Seen several threads here asking whats the deal with Ken, and most get a luke warm response, something like, "oh yeah, he's ok, too" type responses, or " good solid info", but not too excited about it.

Never hear anyone going all out in defense or to war about this guy, from seasoned vets to newbs.

The 13 th Warrior

Jill Luning

[quote=James Schramko;302443]

In my case I am not making 100k per day yet - but - Aymen was a key driver for me to be free from employment. So if people are looking for a plan and they want to follow it - it is a pretty good one. [quote]

James--Have you made that much by going through the 12 week course or just the blueprint?

Jill Luning

Have you signed up for the course and seen results? Happy with it?

Jill Luning

I've heard some of the calls on this and I think that the answer to your question is truly two fold.......one.....that there is enough to go around so it's not going to hurt to share. Two...they are building their own CPA in the future so if they can teach people how to do it they are making ready made successful affiiliates for their own network. Brilliant actually.