Join Them All because of Scammers?

Faithblaster · 02-12-2011, 10:20 AM

Hi Guys,
I am not in any network yet, but when comes the joining time, I will try to get into as many networks as possible.

Reason?

I red that if you get banned from a network running on Direct Track (most of), you will have a big troubles to get into a next CPA network, becouse you are on black list. So I thing that it is better to get into as many networks as possible in the very beginning.

You could be banned even if you are a honest affiliate and use only legal methods to generate traffic. I thing there are some guys which don´t like competitors and if they see me higher in gg adwords, they try to destroy me and take my possition - start filling my offers from proxies, typing fake names etc. Network will see this and they will think that I am a fraudster.

How I am supposed to defend against this kind of scammers? Do you guys have experiences with this?

Headfirst · 02-12-2011, 10:42 AM

As long as you aren't shady, drive good traffic and don't break ignore the network and the advertiser tos you have nothing to worry about.

Since 2005 I have never been kicked from a network. I don't think you have much to worry about.

On the other hand, if you're sending traffic to a bunch of networks you're going to find yourself below the payment threshold on many of them.

Best advice, find a couple of networks you like and make friends with your affiliate managers.

rosalina · 02-12-2011, 06:22 PM

As long as we are legit without breaking the rule, we are ok but i am not 100% completedly agree cuz i see some people are so jealously to the one on spot #1 and they use hundreds of blackhat hat/dirt trict to make us down. I am not in that situation but i am knowinf of it.

Firstrate · 02-13-2011, 07:02 AM

Yeah to be honest if you're legitimate and driving proper traffic then you aren't going to get banned.

It's not something I would worry about too much or put a huge amount of thought into to be honest.

shuvo · 02-13-2011, 09:28 AM

It depends on traffic.If you can drive quality traffic (traffic that converts into action) they will be a good source of income for you.

CPAmojo · 02-13-2011, 12:57 PM

There is always a reason for an affiliate to be banned. You must have gone against their TOS for them to ban you. If your traffic is just simply not converting for the advertiser, they just might stop your traffic to that specific offer.

Networks don't ban blindly. You are the one making them money. You must give them a reason for doing so.

Shaz07 · 02-13-2011, 01:19 PM

Just make sure to sign up to the established networks that use Direct Track and always keep in contact with your AM. A good relationship with your AM can go a far way.

Faithblaster · 03-14-2011, 11:08 AM

Thanx guys, I´m not affraid anymore

mtmjohn · 03-14-2011, 11:22 AM

Hey, if you've done NOTHING wrong, you have NOTHING to worry about!

Ross James · 03-14-2011, 01:59 PM

I think the OP wants to know what happens when competitors attack his offers and causes his account / traffic to be reviewed

Quote:

I thing there are some guys which don´t like competitors and if they see me higher in gg adwords, they try to destroy me and take my possition - start filling my offers from proxies, typing fake names etc. Network will see this and they will think that I am a fraudster.

How I am supposed to defend against this kind of scammers? Do you guys have experiences with this?

Per Action Rob · 03-14-2011, 02:12 PM

That's ridiculous, the number of affiliates that make any money for networks is so low, it takes a lot to get banned.

I've had other hater affiliates report my landers to networks, the FTC, the IRS, their local church and anyone else who would listen but I've never been banned by a network running clean traffic.

You're giving way too much credit to people that don't like others success, most are too broke and too stupid to ever do any real damage.

If you're running aggressive landing pages or cloaking then there are occasional cry baby affiliates living with their mothers that will report you to facebook, google etc, but that won't affect your network relationships.

Networks have gotten really good over the last few years at sniffing out dirty traffic and who's running it. If you are a solid affiliate, they aren't going to want to lose you. I've had many situations where a network gave me a new account and publisher ID to run on rather than ban me.

02-12-2011, 10:42 AM	#2
Headfirst Marketing Monkey Wrench War Room Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 566 Thanks: 21 Thanked 95 Times in 87 Posts	Re: Join Them All because of Scammers? As long as you aren't shady, drive good traffic and don't break ignore the network and the advertiser tos you have nothing to worry about. Since 2005 I have never been kicked from a network. I don't think you have much to worry about. On the other hand, if you're sending traffic to a bunch of networks you're going to find yourself below the payment threshold on many of them. Best advice, find a couple of networks you like and make friends with your affiliate managers.
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02-12-2011, 06:22 PM	#3
rosalina Active Warrior Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 29 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Join Them All because of Scammers? As long as we are legit without breaking the rule, we are ok but i am not 100% completedly agree cuz i see some people are so jealously to the one on spot #1 and they use hundreds of blackhat hat/dirt trict to make us down. I am not in that situation but i am knowinf of it.
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02-13-2011, 07:02 AM	#4
Firstrate Kingpin War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 382 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4,294,967,295 Times in 4,294,967,295 Posts Social Networking	Re: Join Them All because of Scammers? Yeah to be honest if you're legitimate and driving proper traffic then you aren't going to get banned. It's not something I would worry about too much or put a huge amount of thought into to be honest.

02-13-2011, 09:28 AM	#5
shuvo Advanced Warrior Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Earth not Mars/Moon Posts: 736 Thanks: 10 Thanked 49 Times in 47 Posts Contact Info	Re: Join Them All because of Scammers? It depends on traffic.If you can drive quality traffic (traffic that converts into action) they will be a good source of income for you.

02-13-2011, 12:57 PM	#6
CPAmojo Warrior CPA Network Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 72 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Join Them All because of Scammers? There is always a reason for an affiliate to be banned. You must have gone against their TOS for them to ban you. If your traffic is just simply not converting for the advertiser, they just might stop your traffic to that specific offer. Networks don't ban blindly. You are the one making them money. You must give them a reason for doing so.
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02-12-2011, 10:20 AM	#1
Faithblaster Dan Hruska War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 61 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Join Them All because of Scammers? Hi Guys, I am not in any network yet, but when comes the joining time, I will try to get into as many networks as possible. Reason? I red that if you get banned from a network running on Direct Track (most of), you will have a big troubles to get into a next CPA network, becouse you are on black list. So I thing that it is better to get into as many networks as possible in the very beginning. You could be banned even if you are a honest affiliate and use only legal methods to generate traffic. I thing there are some guys which don´t like competitors and if they see me higher in gg adwords, they try to destroy me and take my possition - start filling my offers from proxies, typing fake names etc. Network will see this and they will think that I am a fraudster. How I am supposed to defend against this kind of scammers? Do you guys have experiences with this?

02-13-2011, 01:19 PM	#7
Shaz07 Cool Guy Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 99 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking	Re: Join Them All because of Scammers? Just make sure to sign up to the established networks that use Direct Track and always keep in contact with your AM. A good relationship with your AM can go a far way.
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03-14-2011, 11:08 AM	#8
Faithblaster Dan Hruska War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 61 Thanks: 8 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Join Them All because of Scammers? Thanx guys, I´m not affraid anymore

03-14-2011, 11:22 AM	#9
mtmjohn CPA Networks Reviewer War Room Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Pandora Posts: 3,183 Thanks: 1,352 Thanked 712 Times in 559 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Join Them All because of Scammers? Hey, if you've done NOTHING wrong, you have NOTHING to worry about!
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03-14-2011, 02:12 PM	#11
Per Action Rob HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Madison Ct Posts: 114 Thanks: 0 Thanked 43 Times in 28 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Join Them All because of Scammers? That's ridiculous, the number of affiliates that make any money for networks is so low, it takes a lot to get banned. I've had other hater affiliates report my landers to networks, the FTC, the IRS, their local church and anyone else who would listen but I've never been banned by a network running clean traffic. You're giving way too much credit to people that don't like others success, most are too broke and too stupid to ever do any real damage. If you're running aggressive landing pages or cloaking then there are occasional cry baby affiliates living with their mothers that will report you to facebook, google etc, but that won't affect your network relationships. Networks have gotten really good over the last few years at sniffing out dirty traffic and who's running it. If you are a solid affiliate, they aren't going to want to lose you. I've had many situations where a network gave me a new account and publisher ID to run on rather than ban me.
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