templar

This product launch is waking up a lot of marketers...just got one from David Vallieres name dropping so he can get it on his google alerts), who is recommending arbitrage conspiracy, and now offering his own low cost cpa training program...and he recently went full-time into stock market trading.

CPA is big money, if you can figure it out, and we now know the players in CPA all know Ayem and Emmanuel...and there are still some spots available.

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templar

Dear hidden masked guy,

there's some very good news...you can use this yourself, and in about 12 weeks, you can come back here and tell us what you thought. We'll be here.

If you think it's not for you, skip it...no one will notice. No one will hear you scream.

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Thanks,

Yes that is exactly the case. He personally helped me and here are some of the results:

http://www.doubledigitctr.com/images...e-day-comm.jpg

(This was a CPA offer that I sidestepped and went direct to the merchant to get a bigger cut).

Regards

James

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buddhabux

im not sure what youre saying, so my comment here may not apply, but Aymen and i had a good laugh about how the IM gurus were reacting to somebody who made alot more $$$ than they do!

btw, im not promoting AC, as you can see... my honest opinion, i think Aymen is a great guy... he is not a con artist... he made no money off of me, he called me to discuss some sensitive issues i cannot repeat here, but imho only a very sensitive -- and ethical -- marketer would do so.

so... i would like to humbly suggest to anybody having a reaction to Aymen and AC, that maybe they check their own abundance acceptance level?

encountering a person making 50K to 100K a day can be shocking to your "poverty programs" and bring up some "resistance."

sorry if this is too woo-woo, im into this kind of approach and so is Aymen.

like i said, may not apply to you... just a point i have not heard before!

peace & prosperity, david

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mido

Very good post, David

asr_guy

I got invited to Vegas but couldn't make it. I haven't met Aymen but I did meet his launch manager Anthony. As for the course I have no clue if it's good or not.

You never really know until you buy it, take action, and see for yourself.

This is the problem with big launches today - you get a sh*tload of affiliates mailing claiming it's the greatest thing since sliced bread and they have their own "reviews" but it's all to get the click.

Even adding bonuses on top of stuff you're promoting doesn't make it any more legit.

All I can say is I drove to Vancouver to meet up with their launch guy and interviewed him. We did a 1 take interview and it's below in my sig.

If the sig is different then I've changed it to something else.

So I'm not pushing it either way, just took the time to dig some extra info from Anthony, although my wife was nagging me to get back in the car and drive back over the mountains (5 hour drive).

I'm not offering a bonus, but my link is somewhere to the right of the video and it's blatantly mentioned in the video.

Cheers,
Peter
PS Anthony seems like one of the good guys - he patiently walked around with me downtown in the middle of a Xmas parade until we could find a quiet place to shoot this thing. He was up till 4am that day working on some email for the affiliates, so considering all that I thought he was pretty generous w/ his time considering he could have spent that time on other things for the launch which would have gotten them more traffic than my little 5 min video.

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James Schramko

I have met Aymen that is why I like the course.

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Lance K

James, have you been able to see the course as it's being sold now? If so, do you know if there really are going to be monthly fees (membership, software, etc.) that were NOT mentioned on the sales letter?

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I have the blueprint and I am asking the question about monthly fees.

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Lance K

Thank you James. I appreciate it. Like I said, I'm still willing to give them a fair shake if they just communicate and be upfront about things. I know they're busy. Hopefully you get a reply from them. Thanks again!

James Schramko

I am sure people who stick through will get the training promised. It is guaranteed according to the sales letter.

I'll let you know when I hear something. It must be early in the morning there right now?

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Lance K

No worries. Just figured you would get a faster reply than some others. Thanks again. I'll just sit quietly now and wait for the official word.

James Schramko

I have left a message and will need to get some rest for a few hours. Will keep you posted.

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James Schramko

You are most likely covered by whatever the guarantee was at the time of purchase according to the other post.

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estudent

I bought Arbitrage Conspiracy on the call with Shawn Casey last Wednesday 12 noon. The launch was delayed for nearly 3 hours - and we were told on that call that nobody else would have acces to the sales page until some time later and we were directed to ...livecall...com... to place our order so we would be the first to get access to the bonuses.

There were problems with the purchase - basically my credit card was dinged but the order page said that the credit card was denied, I tried again (5 times) and the order would not complete I rang my bank and they were holding back the transaction because they thought it was suspicious (I'm in Australia and obviously it was an international transaction) I gave the bank permission to release the funds and they gave me an authorisation no. for the transaction.

I have tried numerous ways to contact Ayman and his band of merry men.
I lodged a support ticket with Shawn Casey - who gave me the support email for Aymen
I have sent three emails and received no reply, I stumbled upon the support page on arbitrageconspiracy.com and submitted a ticket there - no reply.

This is starting to smell like 4 day old fish.

I really dislike sales pages or launches where there is no email / support page / phone no.
It's like 'Hey I'll take your money but oh no I don't want to talk to anyone or help you with anything'

What would you do if this happend to you?

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Lance K

Do they have a help desk system? All I found was the support email address.

redicelander

So, can anyone loan me $2000 to get this program? It sounds shocking. It's either the greatest invention since the wheel or a scam worthy of a movie starring Leonardo Di Caprio.

1. Are you using MEDIA BUYS? No? You should be --- START FOR UNDER $1000 -- NO JOKE!!
2. NEWBIES ONLY -- GET COACHING ON FREE TRAFFIC METHODS
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GerardWon

wow jim- I'd be really concerned too... I mean that is a bundle of greenbacks. So this guy, Aymen, is basically like a masked superhero, huh? wow, I hope it works out for you.

James Schramko

The blog has been updated and all support tickets will be answered.

There are no monthly fees Lance.

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Jeff Olah

James -

The blog has not been updated!

They have only posted more nonsense.

My not-so-glowing endorsement still sits "Awaiting Moderation" after almost 48 hours as you can see below. I have included two other posts submitted after mine that were approved.

33
Renee Says:
December 12th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
I want the program but is there any other way to pay? I have just moved, actualy emigrated, and are not allowed to use my old cards anymore and have not yet received cards from my new bank.
Thanks
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Mr Boyd Says:
December 12th, 2008 at 1:10 pm To Herwig Radlgruber:
Let me start by saying,I do not know you, and I do not know your situation. However, I do know that in the time it took you to write that comment you could have read through the free report that Aymen gave out, probably with time left over to listen to the replay of the call.
My point is, the fact that Aymen stated that you can get started for $50 is in fact true(or less if you have one of those Google,Yahoo or MSN coupons) and the free information that has been provided here is enough for someone who is determined to DO something to make a positive change in their life to get started. If you spent that time, effort and focus that you obviously have, looking for the light of opportunities hope, instead of trying to dim that light for other, then perhaps you would have something positive happen in your life and not have to spend your time threatening to post online against someone who is obviously trying to help people.
Yes, the course costs 2K, and yes it is stretched over 12 weeks of training, but keep in mind that what is being paid for is basically continued education and personal training for something that could produce an extremely high income for the rest of your life. And although it is stretched over 12 weeks, Im sure that anyone that gets into it, including Aymen, will always be continuing their education in the industry, especially since we are talking about the internet which is always growing and changing.
Now, also keep this in mind, all that I just said is coming from someone who cannot afford the course, doesn’t have a credit card to put it on and was hoping to get gifted a lifetime membership because of seeing the potential of this information. However, there is no way that I would let the opportunity and information that I have already been introduced to for free go to waste by trying to rag on someone who is trying to do something positive in the world and give back. Even if I am not gifted a membership, I still am using and am thankful for the info that I have already received, and will do my best with what I have to achieve what I want. I suggest that you do the same…or just quietly go your own way, but don’t try to kill the hope and vision that others have.
Thanks again to Aymen and all the AC team.
Wealth, Health & Love To Us All,
Mr Boyd
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Jeff Says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
December 12th, 2008 at 11:01 am I joined today and have started to read all the reviews online stating “THIS IS NOT FOR NEWBIES” and that “There is also a handful of software and memberships that you will need to buy to implement all the methods”. I spent every bit of money I had for this opportunity and now I am finding out that I have to put out even more money? I am definately a “Newbie” and don’t have any more additional disposible income. None of this was disclosed in the sales copy and I am very concerned. Do we have to wait for 12 weeks to get a refund or once we are shown the program and find out that we are required to shell out even more money can we get a refund at that point?
Please Help - I am very concerned.

Also, Are you sure about the monthly membership? This same trick was used by another one of the Guru's that gave a video testimonial for this product about a year ago with the launch of their own ebook.

Thanks

Jeff

estudent

They do hav a support page ...arbi.conspiracy.../support ( the system won;t let me post urls yet so you get the drift)

But when you try to register is says 'manual user registration failed.

This is definitely not off to a good start and it has been my experience that if things don't start off well they usually don't improve much along the way and usually declines.

I am really surprised that the 'Gurus' supported something that is so half baked - I think they tried to roll it out too quckly without all the right systems in place and tested working!!!

This is pretty shameful for this amount of money or for any amount.

It may sound really promising but Aymen is losing credibility fast - if he can't deliver on the little stuff - a simple reply to a customers email - how is he going to deliver on the big stuff?

At this point thay have not even acknowleged my order even though they have my money!

If I lived in the US I would be taking a drive down to Las Vegas to sort this out

Definitely not good to piss your customers off before you even get started or at any time if you want a good reputation.

It doesn't tke 4 days to setup an autoresponder to reply to emails.

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James Schramko

Yes Aymen told me this directly.

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estudent

Hey James if you talk directly to Aymen why not get him to anwer some of the posts here?

We sure would appreciate it!

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templar

Aymen is a wee bit busy...but some very good news...by the end of the coming week, everyone will have a very clear picture on Arbitrage Conspiracy.

The training, the refunds, the faq...and first reports from members...

I can tell it's going to be a ton of fun for those who took the plunge.

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Peter Johnston

Well. I hope it works cos I'm in...

It's the only course I've ever seen whereby the seller not only offers a money back guarantee but will pay you $500 on top if you are not satissfied with it.
Try as I might and I am a sceptic at best of times but can't see anything wrong with an offer like that. Unless of course he dissappears into thin air with everyones money.. Hmmm..

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Peter Johnston

That sucks man. I bought AC through Joe "somebody" as his bonus is to give support and go through the fine details as he seems to know a bit about CPA etc whereas I do not.
I thought this was a cool alternative to a bonus that gives more "stuff" leading to info overload.
If I make $1000 a day with it then I'll be happy.
If not then the refund PLUS the $500 on top out of his own pocket will be quickly requested.

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docmatt

Peter, I truly wish you the best of luck on your success with this program, but are you aware of the tens of thousands of dollars you will need to spend in order to qualify for the $500 bonus? That is a shaky gamble- Better off focusing on the First Guarantee, IF you need it- I really hope you, and everybody else, won't-

Docmatt

Harlan

Just got this email:

Hey,

Just a quick note from all of us here at Arbitrage
headquarters!

Doors to the training will open tomorrow afternoon!

So you can expect your logins to the membership
site as well as some fast track content to get
you started then! Watch your email for your
access link, usename and password...

The OFFICIAL Week one will begin in January,
however there is a TON of stuff we need you
to learn NOW to get all prepped and ready for
class in the new year.

Much of this content will allow you to begin
with the methodology right away...

Get ready to learn and earn!

Aymen and the Arbitragers


P.S. - The excitement about our course has triggered
thousands of email questions. We have received all of
your questions and are diligently working to respond
to each and every one of your questions personally.
So please be patient and we will respond personally!

And now I have a question:

When does the 30 days begin for the guarantee?

Is it the usual from the date of purchase of is it from when the
course begins in the first week of January?

Because if it's from date of purchase, waiting until
the fourth week of the course will be too late.

Hopefully, there will be some way to figure this out.

Peace.

Leanne King

I think these guys need someone to help with their public relations Hopefully, all this feedback will help them improve their product and resolve issues with existing and future customers by addressing their concerns.

Leanne

Ebbi

First I'm going to state my opinion as a customer
and then as a marketer, because I really think all
of you need to so the same!!

Customer.
If the training material starts to come in tomorrow
and it's some useful stuff even if it's not the official
week 1, I should be able to get a rather clear picture
if this is going to be something for me or not.
Of course I would love to think the guarantee starts
in January but I'm not going to hold my breath.
(Don't have a clue if does or not!)

Marketer.
OF COURSE... the guarantee starts the day a customer
buy's the course. I personally would make it start
tomorrow when people get access to the material.
Would I wait until January... I don't think so!
It's business folks and you need to start looking at this
as you would look at your own business.

Get your head out of the sand and start looking at
others people products and you'll see exactly the same
BS going on... this is just how things go. If you don't
like it ask for the refund!!

----------

Great example is (guru), (product name) product.
There he's doing a 4 week product that costs if I remember
correctly somewhere around $197... I was STUPID enough
to buy it when it launched and it had to be the biggest
pile of junk I have EVER bought! It's 4 calls, 1 each week.
((guru) loves his own voice and LOVES to talk about how
successful he is)

Each call is 1 hour filled with information about WHY people
should buy all his upsell's! that's it.
And you know what the funny part is! almost every upsell
he's offering (think they ended in like 8) costs MORE
than $197 ...
You see, it wasn't even possible to do what he was teaching
unless you would buy like 3 of his upsell's, these where tools
and some more advanced training material! I thought I was
getting it all in one package but I guess not... I wasn't
even that excited about the methods, I just bought it because
of the price... of course I should have known better at the
time but I got tricked into his "customer funnel" I got out but
he still tricked me


When I, the customer found this out it only took me like 10
minutes to send a refund ticket to his support.
They answered and told me that it would be taken care of in
the next 4 days, okay, I waited for 5 days and nothing happened.
I send out another ticket asking for the refund and guess what
happened. I got exactly the SAME answer, EXACTLY... It was
just a copy, paste...

I of course knew what he was trying to pull here... he was trying
to make me forget about it so when the 30 days wen't by he
was free. Instead of coming to the WF and bitching about how
(guru) is trying to "steal" my money I just sad down and wrote
another support ticket stating that if my refund wouldn't be taken
care of in the next 48 hours I would start by calling paypal and
get them involved.

In less than 24 hours I got a message saying they where really
sorry and it would be taken care of asap which they did and I
got my money only minutes after this message.

----------

Ebbi

EliteAffiliate

Nice screen shot. I would love to make that kind of money. However, you said it was a CPA offer, yet I thought CPA was leads - getting paid for actions, not sales. Each transaction in your screen shot shows a sale and then a % commission of that sale. So people were buying different products and that's what you were getting paid for. Looks like 3 different products, according the prices. Isn't that just regular affiliate sales?

I have no shock or resistance, just skepticism based off of the different things said and shown. If he actually showed proof of the amount of income he claims I would feel better about it and have total belief and inspiration from it. Seeing what's possible from other people just motivates me and opens my mind even more. He could even just show screen shots of his bank account or anything.

He said in one of his interviews that some days they lose money. So, he's not making 50-100k a day, everyday. I think it's more like they hit that a couple times so are using that as their high number claim. Instead I would rather know about and appreciate knowing what his monthly average gross and net is, not a single day that is so wildly up and down fluctuating.

I would appreciate if anyone who has been in this industry for a while can tell me how the current environment is for it compared to before. With the economy so tough and advertising budgets plummeting, are the rates these companies offering for each action drastically going down? I know it did with mortgage leads. When I did them before they paid $20-$150 a lead, and now it's like $3-15 or whatever. I also know that ads are much cheaper now and all media is suffering from losing revenue on not being able to fill their inventory, so ad budgets are down everywhere. Any input on CPA in regards to this? Thanks.

As far as the Guarantee, it is very confusing, the language. Even before they changed it, it didn't say it was a 12 week guarantee, and now it doesn't say it is a 30 day guarantee. Both say it as though it is the min. amount of time before you can ask for a refund. It said AFTER the 12 weeks if you didn't like it, you can ask for a refund. OK, so AFTER 12 weeks, but BEFORE when? And now it says AFTER 30 days, it doesn't say before 30 days. So AFTER 30 days and BEFORE when? They should clarify the EXACT cutoff date for everyone. Name the actual calender date. When is the deadline cutoff that they would say - oh too late - you should of asked earlier. They don't say when that is. And for most people who ordered right away, they are not going to go back to the sales page to see if anything has changed, why would they. They read and they bought it, and they never emailed or posted a notice of these changes to their customers.

There was this one that was 12 weeks or so course but their guarantee was only for the first 45 days. Fine, certainly enough time to see if the education is any good and what they are offering. However it was a total bait and switch in my case at least and was very deceptive. When I tried to sign up for it, they only took paypal, but paypal would not let me charge that much so I couldn't pay. I emailed them to see if they could take a different payment method and finally they got back to me after their launch had ended and told me that they held a spot for me and that I could pay using my credit card with another processor and gave me the link. The link took me to what looked like the Exact same sales page but with a different link at the bottom to the new payment processor. I just scrolled right to the bottom and signed up. The course was nothing like they claimed and was very low quality. I gave it a chance though, and a few weeks later requested a refund. I never heard anything back. I thought I had 45 days though as it stated on the sales page so I didn't panic or anything. Then when I saw the 45 days was coming up, I emailed them again to make sure I got a response before the deadline. They responded immediately saying that they would not refund it because I missed the deadline of 30 days. Apparently in the new, identical looking sales page link that of course I didn't bother to re-read every line of, they changed the refund policy to 30 days, but only for people who ordered through that page as opposed to the main page. Two different policies, and of course they had to of known that people already trying to pay would have already read the original sales page and not bother to read an identical one again to see if they sneakily changed any line in it to a new or different policy or what they are getting. Just trying to pay. They could of been upfront in the email they sent out. Anyways I forwarded them the email I had sent them a few weeks earlier and finally got the refund after much pleading and headache. They were absolutely dead set on not giving it, even though they knew what they did was highly confusing and unfair, having 2 different deadlines for their same customers. Doesn't make me trust these marketers that much anymore. All this hype, but read the fine print, save screenshots, save all emails etc. I don't want a refund if something is really good, but if it's crap and their sales pitch was all hype, they should stand behind their product. They didn't even offer extra help or any reason to stay with their course and make it work for me, just flat out - no we're keeping your money - you didn't read the fine print - sorry!

James Schramko

You can have pay per lead or pay per sale. This company had different size packages available for the same product.

They ran the offer over 21 CPA networks so I went direct to them and cut a better percentage.

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I bought the course and really hope it isn't a major let down...

They hype these things so much that its hard not to have extremely high, life changing expectations.

Anyway, in my opinion, $2000 isn't much money for education... I mean, I paid over $15k per year for 4 years to go to college and I really can't recall learning a single thing... chicks and beer were good though.

If it's a full blown scam, I'll be raging pissed... but if in 12 weeks I'm just a lot better at ppc then I'm sure it will have been worth the price of admission.

Putting Karma to work for me I am going to pre-commit 10% of any income I make from this program to charity. [arbitrageconspiracygift*wordpress*com] Arbitrators Give Back

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templar

CPA has changed a lot, but not an unexpected amount. There are some things, like health and money, that never change...just the offers change.

Funny enough, biz opp stuff is doing better now than earlier this year...

For any serious purchase, I always recommending printing out the sales page and order receipts...many companies have been known to change terms that make a good deal a definite no go...and with everything in bold font bright red, everyone would agree this would be the first guarantee to start from.

Today is the big day where things will start to unfold, so it is pretty exciting for everyone that made the choice to get in.

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EliteAffiliate

Pretty predictable actually. With so many losing their jobs or under the threat of losing their jobs, they want to explore alternative ways to generate even a supplementary income at least. The competition and saturation will grow, but a good opp. to sell to those newbies and teach them.

nobodyspecial

The email says the course will begin in January, not specifically the first week of January.

FatLarry

I would like to see a group of experienced WF members get together and create a directory of decent tools - that actually work. Tried and tested tools -not shams, not scams and not half-arsed efforts.

I would happily pay a membership fee for access to this sort of highly qualified data to save the hundreds of hours wasted trying to figure out if xyz tool is actually any good.

Obviously it is in the spirit of free-open forums to discuss things that work - problem is people always see it as an open market place and always will.

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Peter Johnston

I spoke to them about this monthly membership issue and they assure me that it is completely un-true and that any forced subscription after the innitial sign up would be against the law.

they also mentioned that this could have been a cookie cutter for an earlier idea for a previously posponed launch.

So basically there is no monthly subscription but maybe there will be the option for a membership fee AFTER the 12 week course which presumably you will know by that time if it's worth doing or alternatively, asking for your refund.

P.S. what the heck is a cookie cutter?

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Cookie Cutter means template. Pre-done. (Like you make cookies by stamping dough with a pre-done outline).

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Black Hat Cat

You might want to read that guarantee again. They do not say they will pay you an extra $500 if you aren't satisfied. Here's what they DO say:

"If after following our entire 12 week system step by step, creating an average of 2 campaigns per day (approx 30 minutes each once you perfect the process), and you’re still not making your money back for this course, simply send us your logins to verify the campaigns and revenues, and we’ll refund you every single penny PLUS send you an EXTRA $500!"

So, to claim this extra $500, you have to create just under 180 campaigns over 12 weeks. I'm pretty sure there won't be too many collecting that $500.

By the way, not to be mean, but, does anyone else think the sales letter sucks? Maybe it's just me, but that sucker was painful to read.

templar

That's what was said a few days ago...and if you get a chance, ask them to update the fine print pages with that info...it is definitely cut and paste stuff that can be cleaned up once they get things under control.

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mikewa

"And now I have a question:

When does the 30 days begin for the guarantee?

Is it the usual from the date of purchase of is it from when the
course begins in the first week of January?

Because if it's from date of purchase, waiting until
the fourth week of the course will be too late."


My concern is that in the sales letter I read dated Dec 11, 2008, I understood the guarantee to be 12 weeks unless they are putting all 12 weeks info on the website during the first 30 days:-

A 100% Money-Back Guarantee #1!
After you complete this 12 week training course, if you don't feel it was worth every single penny and more of your under $2,000 investment, I will refund every give you all your money back with absolutely no strings attached.

I feel a little uneasy when I see the guarantee on the website reading 30 days and I would hope the the "big names" who endorsed this porgram would be a little concerned too!

LeBof

Wow, as a complete newbie to the affiliate marketing game I'm concerned to say the least. I was linked to the Arbitrage Conspiracy by (what I thought was) a reputable source - I realise now that they were probably payed to link me to it.

I can't deny that I like the idea of the course - I mean who wouldn't be impressed with a potential daily income of $100k? But I thought I'd do a little homework before signing my last pennies on Earth over to the programme and I'm glad I took the time to read this blog.

There are so many polarised opinions on here that it's quite frankly frightened me out of signing up to it. There's absolutely no way my girlfriend (or probably anyone elses) would be too happy if I was to tell her I'd wasted my last buck on being sucked in to a false dream.

Does anybody without a link to Aymen's report on their profile have any unbiased experience of the man himself and the programme he's selling? What I do find quite odd, I have to admit, is that the course costs $2k but Aymen and his associates are eluding to figures suggesting that they take home $100k daily on a regular basis. This said, how is my $2k going to impact upon their bank accounts?

Help is experience and experience helps.

LeBof.

Konja

Hi Ebbi,

any updates on how it goes with the program and the $100k in 5 days?

thanks,
Konja

Noah Fleming

LOL. I wondered the same thing.

I imagine Ebbi took the 10k to try the program, only an idiot wouldn't have taken that offer. Not to mention he was also offered 100k in 5 days.

Anyways, Ebbi is gone by now. It's been about 5 days so I imagine he's on vacation in the Caribbean or something while his campaigns sit on autopilot bringing in 100k a day.

Either way he should have gotten 100k either from CPA or Aymen.
Good question.

Konja

I mean, that would be a hell of a testimonial
a postcard from the caribbean or something...
;-)

Ebbi

hehehehe.......

Getting 100k wouldn't have been HALF bad I tell yahh!
I would probably be in the Caribbean because it's actually
below 32 where I am right now

Ebbi

Noah Fleming

Seriously though?
You're taking the offer right or you took the offer?

Ebbi

Hi Noah..

I would have taken the offer in a heartbeat if he
would have offered me it.

I guess I didn't make the NO big enough but if you
go back to the the first post in the thread you can
see I have a big NO... would have been nice but this
is real life people! Or something like that.

Maybe I didn't connect it like I should or the most
obvious reason... The joke was just overall HORRIBLE!
hehe

Have a great day!

Ebbi

Noah Fleming

Oh I just read it quick.
I thought he actually made you the offer to take the course.

Oh well, would have been great social proof.