Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on!

Ebbi · 12-10-2008, 10:29 PM

* I'm removing the original post because of privacy issues. When
Aymen takes care of it I might post it back up. He called me
to personally explain his situation so I'm respecting it.

I wouldn't be a good WF member if I didn't!!!

Like I said Aymen just called me few minutes ago and we talked
for about 20 minutes or so, really good chat!

He offered me to ask him what ever question I wanted regarding
his product and Wasabi8899.

So, I of course asked him what the deal was about Wasabi8899!
This is the answer I got and I personally believe it but you'll
have to make up your own mind.

----------
Wasabi8899 is a person that Aymen was helping out. He gave him
all the info needed to start promoting affiliate products but when
it came to actually taking action this person, like so many of us
didn't have a CLUE how to register or host domains! So he asked
Aymen for help. Teaching someone how to register a domain and
host a website could take many hours so instead Aymen just took
few minutes, registered the domain for him and made a quick iframe
website with his affiliate ID. So now the person could start sending
traffic to the site using the tactics Aymen taught him.
----------

Then he offered me $10.000 if I would just try his product and if I
wouldn't make at least $100k in 5 days he was going to pay it out
of his own pocket!

NO.... would have been nice but this is real life people!!

Believe the answer or not... I guess we'll just have to find out when
people ether start posting good comments about the course or
bad comments. Like I said I personally believe that Wasabi8899 is not
Aymen, that's maybe because I actually talked to him live on the
phone and he explained everything to me in details.

Ebbi

RC7000 · 12-10-2008, 11:00 PM

Good work.

It has to be him.. wierd how he was asking simple questions not so long ago:

Sept 08

Quote:

Very simple question...how do you get more traffic with YSM?

For instance, right now, I have the following campaign:

1) 2 adgroups
2) 452 keywords total
3) $0.30 for Search and $0.15 for content
4) average CTR 0.17% from the beginning for the month and now

Right now, I only have about 80 and 100 clicks per day with about 45,000 impression per day

The offer I'm promoting is converting very well and I would like to ramp it up.

How could I increase my number of clicks and impression to get more daily conversion ?

and

Feb 08

Quote:

Hello,

I have started a campaign 3 weeks ago and I have set the daily budget at $3000/day. However, it seems it can not go more than $200/day.

For testing purposes, I have created other campaigns with a minimum of $1000 to $3000/day, same problem, my daily spending is always around $100 to $200

I wish to spend more to get more traffic, but it seems to limited to $200 per day

Anything wrong in my side?

thank you

Nov 07

Quote:

Hi all,

Is it possible to get multiple accounts with Commission Junction. Let me explain my situation:

I have created myself a CJ account 1 year ago. I have 2 brothers living at the same address than me. Is it possible to sign up for a cj account with the same mailing address, but with a different name? is it agaisnt the tos? I could not find any informations on that.

thank you all.

Got to be him!

Ebbi · 12-10-2008, 11:57 PM

Yes... I personally think Aymen and Wasbi8899 are the same person
but then again you never know and people just have to make up there
own mind! It's going to be interesting if he makes his information
private in the next days!

Ebbi

Ebbi · 12-11-2008, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarveyJ

Dude, it's a bit of an open secret that he paid those people for the video endorsements.
Pagan's an out and out whore. From what I've heard around the traps he got low five figures for his endorsement. Why the hell do people follow this guy in the first place? I have trouble believing anyone that's an expert at dating, seduction, real estate, online marketing and business venturing all within the space of a decade. He's either a demi-god or a liar.
The others are just MLM hacks who've found a brand new market of suckers. How did they get rich? By selling dreams to morons, because there's faster money in that.

Furthermore, if he's so awesome at this, why the hell are there any technical problems with the site at all? You get a team of people that know what they're doing and make sure it's live before you get on with it.
It's not like it's difficult to set up a page, and a secure payment gateway.

Okey.... Interesting!
But do you believe Wasabi8899 is Aymen?

Also the problem might be one of the "guru's" testing out a launch formula
to see how people react to this! Not sure but it sounds like something they
might do!!

Ebbi

James Schramko · 12-11-2008, 01:44 AM

I know that Aymen is quite advanced with PPV/CPV and facebook marketing. Perhaps this is where the volume comes from?

Chris Lockwood · 12-11-2008, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarveyJ

Pagan's an out and out whore. From what I've heard around the traps he got low five figures for his endorsement. Why the hell do people follow this guy in the first place? I have trouble believing anyone that's an expert at dating, seduction, real estate, online marketing and business venturing all within the space of a decade. He's either a demi-god or a liar.

Hmmm, dating and seduction are one niche. He sells that stuff online, therefore he knows online marketing. That's 3 of your 5 right there. I'm not sure what you mean by business venturing, but if you mean his Altitude product, that's also related to online marketing.

I didn't know he did real estate, but it wouldn't surprise me, since many people with money are into that.

Why do people follow him? I'm guessing because he's very successful at what he does.

Have you ever seen any of his products?

Ebbi · 12-11-2008, 02:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Schramko

I know that Aymen is quite advanced with PPV/CPV and facebook marketing. Perhaps this is where the volume comes from?

Like I said, I'm not saying that Aymen is not making good money
and that he doesn't know his stuff but it's hard to believe.

Everyone starts somewhere but from the looks of it Aymen
didn't get advanced few years ago. In fact I'm pretty sure
he's not the brain behind the course!

Am I right ?

Ebbi

James Schramko · 12-11-2008, 02:24 AM

Yes it is hard to believe - but the truth will come out eventually.

SimonHarrison · 12-11-2008, 02:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbi

Like I said, I'm not saying that Aymen is not making good money
and that he doesn't know his stuff but it's hard to believe.

Everyone starts somewhere but from the looks of it Aymen
didn't get advanced few years ago. In fact I'm pretty sure
he's not the brain behind the course!

Am I right ?

Ebbi

Good bit of Sherlock Holmes work, I bet he's going to be wincing when he reads this.

So newbie 12 months ago, now expecting folks to churn out $2k for his advice now.

You may well be right , he's just a figurehead.

templar · 12-11-2008, 02:36 AM

From the checks showing on the salespage, it looks like he really started to get it right near the end of 2007, and his $50k days are just in the last few months.

Personally, he's selling a 2k course, and if I can make 2k more in the first month and save another year of trial and error, then I have no probs with him at all.

RC7000 · 12-11-2008, 02:39 AM

I can't take anyones positive opinion properly when they have an affiliate link in there SIG file i.e. templar and james schramko.

vic_msn · 12-11-2008, 02:49 AM

nice work!!.. did you check his DNF profile it says the business location is Dubai
and some one told me he is from Egypt.. so there is some relation.

templar · 12-11-2008, 02:59 AM

Looking at the search results for wasabi8899, it is definitely him.

The whois info on therichjerksecret is already private, but the iframe still shows wasabi8899...and that term brings up aymen-specific info, so this is the right guy.

youtube video posted by wasabi8899

Anyone that wants to check out Aymen, and get a fantastic education can go to all the discussions he's been in, and discover a lot of useful things - free.

James Schramko · 12-11-2008, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC7000

I can't take anyones positive opinion properly when they have an affiliate link in there SIG file i.e. templar and james schramko.

I have the same issue with people who don't know the guy and don't know the product but make wild speculations that are way off the mark. Imagine that.

SimonHarrison · 12-11-2008, 03:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbi

Yes... I personally think Aymen and Wasbi8899 are the same person
but then again you never know and people just have to make up there
own mind! It's going to be interesting if he makes his information
private in the next days!

Ebbi

Have you taken screen shots/video of this before it all suddently dissapears ..

Memo · 12-11-2008, 03:16 AM

Well there are two guys behind the launch. I don't know Aymen. But the other guy, I know is making good money. We bought the same course in PPC and CPA. He bought it six months before I did, and I remember all his posts in the forum, and the post he wrote 3 months after buying the course that he was in $10 000 every month. Don't know how much he is doing now.

I have heard that it is possible to make $50-$100K day. And I think does really successful affiliates don't just hangaround here at WF

DougBarger · 12-11-2008, 03:19 AM

Hey Ebbi,

They didn't mean for you to take the word "Conspiracy" literally! Lol.

RC7000 · 12-11-2008, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Schramko

I have the same issue with people who don't know the guy and don't know the product but make wild speculations that are way off the mark. Imagine that.

Sorry? My business partner was there in Las Vegas. I know exactly what this is all about. I'm not promoting this product at all so have no 2nd agenda - unlike some.

Konja · 12-11-2008, 03:35 AM

"the truth is out there, you're about to find out where it's been hiding..."
;-)

thanks, Ebbi!

what really pisses me off is the price...
if you make up to 100k a day and want others to succeed with CPA because you are about to launch your own CPA-network and you charge 2k for a course, well, I guess you can call that 'greedy'...
I will definitely not buy this course and would rather see if a warrior here on the forum can give me similar information which I will be happy to pay for!

vic_msn · 12-11-2008, 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konja

"the truth is out there, you're about to find out where it's been hiding..."
;-)

thanks, Ebbi!

what really pisses me off is the price...
if you make up to 100k a day and want others to succeed with CPA because you are about to launch your own CPA-network and you charge 2k for a course, well, I guess you can call that 'greedy'...
I will definitely not buy this course and would rather see if a warrior here on the forum can give me similar information which I will be happy to pay for!

I am in process of creating my own guide for CPA offers..

RC7000 · 12-11-2008, 03:49 AM

vic_msn, what is the point in announcing that?

James Schramko · 12-11-2008, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vic_msn

I am in process of creating my own guide for CPA offers..

Let me guess, it will be ready in about 12 weeks?

vic_msn · 12-11-2008, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC7000

vic_msn, what is the point in announcing that?

previous poster said he'd be glad to purchase from a fellow warrior...
so I thought I'll post about my ideas,,,

James Schramko · 12-11-2008, 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Konja

"the truth is out there, you're about to find out where it's been hiding..."
;-)

thanks, Ebbi!

what really pisses me off is the price...
if you make up to 100k a day and want others to succeed with CPA because you are about to launch your own CPA-network and you charge 2k for a course, well, I guess you can call that 'greedy'...
I will definitely not buy this course and would rather see if a warrior here on the forum can give me similar information which I will be happy to pay for!

What sort advice are you likely to get for less than $2k?

James Schramko · 12-11-2008, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC7000

Sorry? My business partner was there in Las Vegas. I know exactly what this is all about. I'm not promoting this product at all so have no 2nd agenda - unlike some.

I did not say I was talking about you.

Some of the poeple in these threads are so way off the mark with speculations. I have heard both sides.

I do agree the hype aspect is not appealing but the person and the product is good enough to get a return on investment.

Can anyone honestly say that they could not get $2000 in returns if they apply the entire course and do what it teaches?

Louis Raven · 12-11-2008, 04:17 AM

This proves nothing. In ten years time he may still be asking questions in forums. I'm sure there's not a point were you just.. stop learning.

Good find none the less bro.

Louis

Konja · 12-11-2008, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Schramko

What sort advice are you likely to get for less than $2k?

are you kidding? I wouldn't be surprised if I got that kind of info for free in the War Room.

Harlan · 12-11-2008, 05:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarveyJ

Pagan's an out and out whore. From what I've heard around the traps he got low five figures for his endorsement. Why the hell do people follow this guy in the first place? I have trouble believing anyone that's an expert at dating, seduction, real estate, online marketing and business venturing all within the space of a decade. He's either a demi-god or a liar.

I know Eben.

I respect Eben.

Eben doesn't need anyone's five figures.

He is smart and has incredible integrity.

The guy has a serious 20M plus a year business.

You think he would jeopardize that for a bribe and lose credibility?

I don't.

Right now Eben Pagan is teaching a seminar on improving how you learn.

I don't believe Eben has ever posted in the forum but I guess his success
is bothering you.

I think you owe him an apology or edit your post.

I've learned a lot from him and there's lots more to go.

And no, he didn't pay me to do this.

You're picking on one of the good guys.

Peace.

SimonHarrison · 12-11-2008, 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louis Raven

This proves nothing. In ten years time he may still be asking questions in forums. I'm sure there's not a point were you just.. stop learning.

Good find none the less bro.

Louis

It proves he was asking "basic" questions that somebody supposedly earning $100,000 per day should not need to be asking and if he's asking questions of the kind shown why should I pay him $2000 to teach me, that's really the point being made.

templar · 12-11-2008, 06:47 AM

Well, I am very excited to hear Aymen called you and you spoke for 20 minutes. I watched the video from his affiliate manager, Anthony, and it seems he was living in Montreal near Aymen, and Aymen was living with some people, maybe his brother, or some relative.

Anyways, it's looking great, and I am excited as ever about the purchase I made, and my mega bonus offer still stands.

Konja · 12-11-2008, 06:56 AM

well okay Aymen,
I'll have a look at your product for $5,000.
that's 50% off!!!

;-)

Noah Fleming · 12-11-2008, 07:23 AM

Wow a lot of interesting stuff happens over night.

I don't know the basis of the first post as it seems to be edited but where are those questions coming from in post #2?

Aymen the man without last name called you?!?! Did your call display pick up his last name? World location?

Spy work?!?!

International Conspiracies!!!

What the heck happened while I was sleeping?!!?

God love the Warrior Forum!
:-)

James Schramko · 12-11-2008, 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

It proves he was asking "basic" questions that somebody supposedly earning $100,000 per day should not need to be asking and if he's asking questions of the kind shown why should I pay him $2000 to teach me, that's really the point being made.

It proves nothing because it wasn't him...

templar · 12-11-2008, 08:29 AM

Noah,

I think the cat is out of the bag, since google has it in its index already (hint hint)...

I also tagged this video with his name...

Aymen's Controversial Launch

It will be interesting to see how the "delay" affects sales at noon today...

digabot · 12-11-2008, 09:03 AM

Aymen and Emmanuel are Gauher Chaudhry's top students. These guys definitely know what they're doing and are definitely raking it in (although they aren't doing $100k a day consistently - not close).

The whole "arbitrage" idea is misleading. This is just affiliate marketing. Traffic and conversion.

Take the time to learn and run with credible networks (not the dbags who shave and scrub your leads) and you can make an amazing living.

You're going to work though doing this. This isn't some automated ATM. Definitely not a "lifestyle business".

Like anything, this approach works, but it's not going to fall into your lap and you have to be willing to commit time and CAPITAL.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HarveyJ

Furthermore, if he's so awesome at this, why the hell are there any technical problems with the site at all? You get a team of people that know what they're doing and make sure it's live before you get on with it.
It's not like it's difficult to set up a page, and a secure payment gateway.

This seems to be a popular "technique" that's been used during a lot of launches by the guru crowd. I'm sure there will be some bonus where all the partners have a chance to get you on their list so they can carpet bomb your inbox with sales pitches disguised as content.

TE2 · 12-11-2008, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by templar

Looking at the search results for wasabi8899, it is definitely him.

The whois info on therichjerksecret is already private, but the iframe still shows wasabi8899...and that term brings up aymen-specific info, so this is the right guy.

youtube video posted by wasabi8899

Anyone that wants to check out Aymen, and get a fantastic education can go to all the discussions he's been in, and discover a lot of useful things - free.

Someone is covering their tracks in a hurry.

The video has been "removed by user"

Regards,

John

SimonHarrison · 12-11-2008, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Schramko

It proves nothing because it wasn't him...

It wasn't him ?

Perhaps I missed a post, seemed beyond conclusive no ?

What leads you to believe despite everything in this thread that it wasn't him ?

Strange all the bread crumbs are dissapearing..

templar · 12-11-2008, 12:37 PM

Simon,

Just go to the top of this thread and read what happened...

It is a very credible phone call.

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

It wasn't him ?

Perhaps I missed a post, seemed beyond conclusive no ?

What leads you to believe despite everything in this thread that it wasn't him ?

Strange all the bread crumbs are dissapearing..

SimonHarrison · 12-11-2008, 12:52 PM

So a person that he was helping out took his own Clickbank username and..

Never mind, there was a huge amount of information in the OP that linked the two together, I see that is now gone as is the posts on the forums and videos etc.

To fishy for my liking, to fishy by half.

Ebbi · 12-11-2008, 01:26 PM

I was asked by a fellow warrior if it was okey for Aymen to
call me and explain this whole Wasabi8899 issue.
I of course said yes, because it's not like I did this post to damage
Aymen, heck.... I wanted to know the truth and I don't think
I could have gotten a better opportunity.

The call was very interesting and after clearing this whole Wasabi8899
issues I took the chance to ask him few questions regarding his
product and methods. He was more than willing to answer all my
questions and shared few gold nuggets along the way which were
really impressive.

Aymen actually took up the phone and explained himself and I
have to show him respect for that. I can understand why he didn't
want his personal information flying around the internet so I of
course took it away like any good warrior would have done.

How you translate this thread is up to you. I know I have changed
my mind regarding Aymen because if he really would have been
full of BS, he wouldn't have called me 1 hour after the this thread
went live.

Ebbi

SimonHarrison · 12-11-2008, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ebbi

I can understand why he didn't
want his personal information flying around the internet so I of
course took it away like any good warrior would have done.

I thought it wasn't his information, it was a student's ...

Quote:

because if he really would have been
full of BS, he wouldn't have called me 1 hour after the this thread
went live.

Ebbi

Surely that's exactly what he would have done to try minimise the damage.

His story in relation to the original information you had posted doesn't make sense at all.

The fact that all the evidence is being rapidly removed, videos, posts etc on other forums only leads me to believe this smells fishy.

Ebbi · 12-11-2008, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

I thought it wasn't his information, it was a student's ...

Surely that's exactly what he would have done to try minimise the damage.

His story in relation to the original information you had posted doesn't make sense at all.

The fact that all the evidence is being rapidly removed, videos, posts etc on other forums only leads me to believe this smells fishy.

The post actually showed Aymen's personal information. You can still
go to the digital point forum and search the username Wasabi8899.
Then you'll find all the posts made by his student.

Through my background check I reveled his personal information
on my way to find the username Wasabi8899

Also what kind of damage do you think this thread has/would have
done to his launch? This product has been promoted by almost every
big gun out there and the site has well over 500.000 views so far.
1000 people have viewed this thread.

But then again I don't have a clue if this course is going to be any
good or not... Do I know for sure Aymen told me the truth on the
phone? NO... every single word he told me might have been total
BS and I'm fully aware of that. But I'm giving him the benefit of the
doubt, of course this launch has been hyped up BIG time which make
people like you and me believe it's too good to be true and again it
might all be. The guarantees he's offering are unheard of so that
also should give you a good example what's to come.

If you buy it and see this is not for you, he'll refund you the money
If you buy, take action and don't see results, he'll refund you the money
plus extra $500 for your trouble.

Where is my affiliate link when I need it!! lol

Anyways, I guess we'll just have to wait and see how people react to
this product and then the truth will be out there.

Ebbi

James Schramko · 12-11-2008, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

It wasn't him ?

Perhaps I missed a post, seemed beyond conclusive no ?

What leads you to believe despite everything in this thread that it wasn't him ?

I asked him.

James Schramko · 12-11-2008, 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

So a person that he was helping out took his own Clickbank username and..

No.

A person he was helping out used his own (the students) clickbank ID not Aymens. This is why you are confused.

James Schramko · 12-11-2008, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SimonHarrison

I thought it wasn't his information, it was a student's ...

Surely that's exactly what he would have done to try minimise the damage.

His story in relation to the original information you had posted doesn't make sense at all.

It makes perfect sense - you have not read it correctly.

Aymen used Aymend details to host his students site with his students nickname. It is the student who made the posts.

Read Gauher's email about Aymen and Emanual if you want to get a third party un-biased (he is not promoting) opinion. You will then see that these two are bona-fidi experts and how ridiculous this makes some posters look.

buddhabux · 12-11-2008, 07:50 PM

Let me add my 2 cents...

Aymen sent me an email re a post on the blog before the launch saying he wanted to talk about the content of my post.

so i sent him an email with my phone #, he called me promptly and we had a great chat for about 20 minutes.

im a pretty good judge of character... i say hes a good guy, sincere, and he got where he is by being smart and working hard. he has the kind of personality where i definitely could see him just helping out a friend as described rather than getting into chit-chat about it.

based on talking with aymen, i also agree with james schramko's comments on his blog that aymen is tuned into abundance thinking and is a generous person with high vision. he is very action oriented and high energy.

finally, the voice i heard on the phone is identical to the one that did the big conference call the day before the launch day (that got delayed).

so thats my contribution...

peace to everybody, and happy holidays, david

templar · 12-12-2008, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddhabux

Aymen ...called me promptly and we had a great chat for about 20 minutes.... i say hes a good guy, sincere, and he got where he is by being smart and working hard. he has the kind of personality where i definitely could see him just helping out a friend as described ...i also agree with james schramko's comments on his blog that aymen is tuned into abundance thinking and is a generous person with high vision. he is very action oriented and high energy.

Thanks Buddha...it confirms my conclusion on this.

Brad Fallon had Aymen over to his house, looked at everything, and then decided to bring the top online earners to decide if it was as good as it looked, and that's kinda how we got to where we are. I am in, hundreds more are in, and it is full steam ahead.

MaskedMarketer · 12-12-2008, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by templar

I am in, hundreds more are in, and it is full steam ahead.

Do they teach you that in Herd Marketing 101? LOL

I'm sure it may be a decent product, but you have an obvious agenda to get a piece of that 2k

James Schramko · 12-12-2008, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MaskedMarketer

Do they teach you that in Herd Marketing 101? LOL

Good call !

MaskedMarketer · 12-12-2008, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Schramko

Good call !

Promoting a product is one thing (to actually believe in it), but don't just follow the leader. Understanding that most are followers is the biggest money making secret of all time

And James, if Aymen personally helped you make money, I understand why you would promote it. Doesn't mean I believe it, but show us some results with some of your customers

I'm only interested in results, nothing else...

The only way I would personally promote any product is if I used it myself (and saw results claimed) and thought it was one of the best in its class.

If thats the case with you James, you're doing the right thing!

12-10-2008, 10:29 PM	#1
Ebbi HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Here! Posts: 413 Thanks: 40 Thanked 192 Times in 18 Posts	Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! * I'm removing the original post because of privacy issues. When Aymen takes care of it I might post it back up. He called me to personally explain his situation so I'm respecting it. I wouldn't be a good WF member if I didn't!!! Like I said Aymen just called me few minutes ago and we talked for about 20 minutes or so, really good chat! He offered me to ask him what ever question I wanted regarding his product and Wasabi8899. So, I of course asked him what the deal was about Wasabi8899! This is the answer I got and I personally believe it but you'll have to make up your own mind. ---------- Wasabi8899 is a person that Aymen was helping out. He gave him all the info needed to start promoting affiliate products but when it came to actually taking action this person, like so many of us didn't have a CLUE how to register or host domains! So he asked Aymen for help. Teaching someone how to register a domain and host a website could take many hours so instead Aymen just took few minutes, registered the domain for him and made a quick iframe website with his affiliate ID. So now the person could start sending traffic to the site using the tactics Aymen taught him. ---------- Then he offered me $10.000 if I would just try his product and if I wouldn't make at least $100k in 5 days he was going to pay it out of his own pocket! NO.... would have been nice but this is real life people!! Believe the answer or not... I guess we'll just have to find out when people ether start posting good comments about the course or bad comments. Like I said I personally believe that Wasabi8899 is not Aymen, that's maybe because I actually talked to him live on the phone and he explained everything to me in details. Ebbi
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12-10-2008, 11:57 PM	#3
Ebbi HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Here! Posts: 413 Thanks: 40 Thanked 192 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! Yes... I personally think Aymen and Wasbi8899 are the same person but then again you never know and people just have to make up there own mind! It's going to be interesting if he makes his information private in the next days! Ebbi
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12-11-2008, 01:44 AM	#5
James Schramko Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 3,029 Thanks: 97 Thanked 315 Times in 148 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! I know that Aymen is quite advanced with PPV/CPV and facebook marketing. Perhaps this is where the volume comes from?
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12-11-2008, 02:24 AM	#8
James Schramko Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia. Posts: 3,029 Thanks: 97 Thanked 315 Times in 148 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! Yes it is hard to believe - but the truth will come out eventually.
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12-11-2008, 02:36 AM	#10
templar Wealth Trainer War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: , , Canada. Posts: 286 Blog Entries: 6 Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! From the checks showing on the salespage, it looks like he really started to get it right near the end of 2007, and his $50k days are just in the last few months. Personally, he's selling a 2k course, and if I can make 2k more in the first month and save another year of trial and error, then I have no probs with him at all.
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12-11-2008, 02:39 AM	#11
RC7000 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 152 Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! I can't take anyones positive opinion properly when they have an affiliate link in there SIG file i.e. templar and james schramko.

12-11-2008, 02:49 AM	#12
vic_msn HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: India. Posts: 150 Thanks: 1 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! nice work!!.. did you check his DNF profile it says the business location is Dubai and some one told me he is from Egypt.. so there is some relation.
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12-11-2008, 03:16 AM	#16
Memo Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: , , Sweden. Posts: 80 Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! Well there are two guys behind the launch. I don't know Aymen. But the other guy, I know is making good money. We bought the same course in PPC and CPA. He bought it six months before I did, and I remember all his posts in the forum, and the post he wrote 3 months after buying the course that he was in $10 000 every month. Don't know how much he is doing now. I have heard that it is possible to make $50-$100K day. And I think does really successful affiliates don't just hangaround here at WF
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12-11-2008, 03:19 AM	#17
DougBarger Known, Liked & Trusted War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: USA Posts: 3,079 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 313 Thanked 115 Times in 79 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! Hey Ebbi, They didn't mean for you to take the word "Conspiracy" literally! Lol.
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12-11-2008, 03:35 AM	#19
Konja IMtutorial.com War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 161 Thanks: 33 Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! "the truth is out there, you're about to find out where it's been hiding..." ;-) thanks, Ebbi! what really pisses me off is the price... if you make up to 100k a day and want others to succeed with CPA because you are about to launch your own CPA-network and you charge 2k for a course, well, I guess you can call that 'greedy'... I will definitely not buy this course and would rather see if a warrior here on the forum can give me similar information which I will be happy to pay for!

12-11-2008, 03:49 AM	#21
RC7000 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 152 Thanks: 11 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! vic_msn, what is the point in announcing that?

12-11-2008, 04:17 AM	#26
Louis Raven Elite Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: United Kingdom. Posts: 2,828 Blog Entries: 1 Thanks: 196 Thanked 64 Times in 49 Posts Social Networking	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! This proves nothing. In ten years time he may still be asking questions in forums. I'm sure there's not a point were you just.. stop learning. Good find none the less bro. Louis

12-11-2008, 06:47 AM	#30
templar Wealth Trainer War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: , , Canada. Posts: 286 Blog Entries: 6 Thanks: 6 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Social Networking	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! Well, I am very excited to hear Aymen called you and you spoke for 20 minutes. I watched the video from his affiliate manager, Anthony, and it seems he was living in Montreal near Aymen, and Aymen was living with some people, maybe his brother, or some relative. Anyways, it's looking great, and I am excited as ever about the purchase I made, and my mega bonus offer still stands.
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12-11-2008, 06:56 AM	#31
Konja IMtutorial.com War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 161 Thanks: 33 Thanked 26 Times in 22 Posts	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! well okay Aymen, I'll have a look at your product for $5,000. that's 50% off!!! ;-)

12-11-2008, 07:23 AM	#32
Noah Fleming Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,845 Thanks: 30 Thanked 34 Times in 24 Posts Social Networking	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! Wow a lot of interesting stuff happens over night. I don't know the basis of the first post as it seems to be edited but where are those questions coming from in post #2? Aymen the man without last name called you?!?! Did your call display pick up his last name? World location? Spy work?!?! International Conspiracies!!! What the heck happened while I was sleeping?!!? God love the Warrior Forum! :-)
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12-11-2008, 12:52 PM	#39
SimonHarrison Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: All Over The World. Posts: 896 Thanks: 70 Thanked 116 Times in 76 Posts	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! So a person that he was helping out took his own Clickbank username and.. Never mind, there was a huge amount of information in the OP that linked the two together, I see that is now gone as is the posts on the forums and videos etc. To fishy for my liking, to fishy by half.
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12-11-2008, 01:26 PM	#40
Ebbi HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Here! Posts: 413 Thanks: 40 Thanked 192 Times in 18 Posts	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! I was asked by a fellow warrior if it was okey for Aymen to call me and explain this whole Wasabi8899 issue. I of course said yes, because it's not like I did this post to damage Aymen, heck.... I wanted to know the truth and I don't think I could have gotten a better opportunity. The call was very interesting and after clearing this whole Wasabi8899 issues I took the chance to ask him few questions regarding his product and methods. He was more than willing to answer all my questions and shared few gold nuggets along the way which were really impressive. Aymen actually took up the phone and explained himself and I have to show him respect for that. I can understand why he didn't want his personal information flying around the internet so I of course took it away like any good warrior would have done. How you translate this thread is up to you. I know I have changed my mind regarding Aymen because if he really would have been full of BS, he wouldn't have called me 1 hour after the this thread went live. Ebbi
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12-11-2008, 07:50 PM	#46
buddhabux Copywriter & Ghostwriter War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: San Francisco, California , USA. Posts: 196 Thanks: 1 Thanked 18 Times in 16 Posts	Re: Truth about Aymen? Arbitrage Conspiracy -- What is Going on! Let me add my 2 cents... Aymen sent me an email re a post on the blog before the launch saying he wanted to talk about the content of my post. so i sent him an email with my phone #, he called me promptly and we had a great chat for about 20 minutes. im a pretty good judge of character... i say hes a good guy, sincere, and he got where he is by being smart and working hard. he has the kind of personality where i definitely could see him just helping out a friend as described rather than getting into chit-chat about it. based on talking with aymen, i also agree with james schramko's comments on his blog that aymen is tuned into abundance thinking and is a generous person with high vision. he is very action oriented and high energy. finally, the voice i heard on the phone is identical to the one that did the big conference call the day before the launch day (that got delayed). so thats my contribution... peace to everybody, and happy holidays, david
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