Nikomia

I don't know why but some cpa networks keep on denying my application. I applied for neverblue.com a few days ago and yesterday, they sent me the denial message . I was completely honest with them. Peerfly.com also denied me .

I told them I will be using article marketing, video marketing, forum marketing and any other free ways to drive targeted traffic. I haven't had much success with cpa network. So, I won't go for paid methods.

I was making money with markethealth.com. However, that was by using illegal methods . But, I stopped using those methods.

Can anyone here help me to get accepted?

I want answer from member like Kenster.

LeadBoltBrian

What have been the reasons for denial? If the little tidbit above was mentioned to them, that might have indicated a red flag...even if you explicitly mentioned you longer use those methods.

As you'll see from other related threads, contact the network directly (IM/phone/etc.) and see what has caused your application's rejection. If you're already being completely honest, then it should be an easy fix to the problem

Best of luck!

Nikomia

I didn't include those tidbits that I once used illegal methods to earn money.
I said that I use article marketing, forum marketing, video marketing and other free ways to drive targeted traffic.

I'm quite afraid to call them over the phone as english is not my 1st language. I don't have problem in speaking, but I have problem in listening!

I also come from a 3rd world country, but I don't think country should be a factor here as I'm not fraudster or any bh marketer. Please help!

RevenueFoxEric

I think a lot of the issue is not that you are a "fraudster" but that possibly many in your country are. There are countries we reject without giving it a second thought. Almost all countries on the African Continent are rejected without question. There are good people in each country but when you get burned it tends to effect everyone. Take Nigeria for example. Everyone here has won 2,500,000$ USD (two million five hundred thousand US dollars) at some point in time.

What I can suggest if the AM is willing, keep in contact with them and build up a rapport without constantly bugging them about signing you up. You may be considered a "fraudster" in the beginning (much like being found guilty before proven innocent) but over time that might change.

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Nikomia

But the AM will have to accept me before I can do anything with them.

For instance, will I be allowed in your network if I give the account approval manager a call after they deny me? (Just an example)

Not sure what you mean.

RevenueFoxEric

We look at several different things and not just location. We have an internal checklist we must complete before allowing anyone into our program.

The example about Nigeria is that any time someone wins the lottery or is asked to launder money (ie. I have $8 million I need you to put it in your account and keep $2 million for your troubles, then send me a check for the remaining $6 million) the email often comes from Nigeria.

Now, not every single person in Nigeria is a scammer or even knows how to use the computer. The ones that do have pretty much ruined it for the rest of the country.

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ARS

I believe NeverBlue at the moment are only accepting affiliates that are already earning, since they've been asking affiliates for proof of earnings.

My best suggestion is once you've submitted your application to follow up. Give them a call, or add someone on AIM (or another instant messenger), and speak to them.
They'll be happy to talk, and appreciate you took the extra step.

This also speeds up your application usually.

mtmjohn

With so much fraud in this industry, CPA networks have no choice buy really have to tighten the bolt while accepting new affiliates (especially for non-us marketers).

Anyway, did you read the report from Kenster, if not, check it out, it's amazing: Ultimate CPA Network Acceptance Report - EVERYTHING You Need To Know About CPA Acceptance

Nikomia

At least peerfly.com should have approved me. Also applied for CPAPark and got denied almost instantly. I'm feeling very demoralized.

I called Charlie Gartman at peerfly.com and never found him available over the phone .

Kenster

Read this guide and let me know if you still have any troubles. There are hundreds of networks so just keep plugging away. I have never met anybody from any country that applied to 40 networks and wasn't able to get into any!

So don't get hooked on any network, just keep moving on!

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cashxpert

It is a litlle bit strange that you are so eager to enter a cpa network if you never made any money with one previously. Why not show the world that you are a good marketer by selling some products as an affiliate. Once your proven marketing strategies are in place, I am sure you can do business also with CPA networks.

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RevenueFoxEric

Dont get discouraged. There are hundreds of networks out there and Im sure one or 2 from your general area.

Rather than starting out with the big dogs maybe you should start out with some puppies. Find the smaller networks that are not over publicized. Once you establish that you can send legit leads to offers, you can send screen caps to the larger networks and show that you have good traffic.

I know there are 15 pages of networks on offervault. I will tell you that a lot networks do have a lot of the same offers. Exclusive offers arent always available to every affiliate anyway.

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Nikomia

At last, you're replying! Yep, I read that guide and it was awesome.

I applied for Maxbounty.com right now and let's see what happens next. I was completely honest in the application.

They require manual approval but I find it scary to answer questions over the phone. I might mistake one question for another or might not understand it at all! I've serious listening problem even when it comes to my mother language!

Nikomia

I did make money with many affiliate programs. But I never achieved the goal I wanted to reach . I believe with cpa networks I will be able to reach that goal.

RevenueFoxEric

I would rather talk to someone on the phone that may not know everything than someone who knows everything.

The worst is someone who wants to do email submits and have no clue how. I had one person say they were going to send emails to their friends. He had no clue when it came to emailing.

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Flugelbinders

Don't get too discouraged and keep at it. It is true that the majority of networks will not even consider affiliates outside the US due to fraud concerns. I ask for referrals from other network AM's, pub's or proof that you have been approved by another network before I allow affiliates to join our team.

It is unfortunate it has to be this way but this is a huge waste of time for networks.

Good Luck!

williamrs

There can be a combination of factors like your country, your methods, other answers that you gave during the phone call, etc...

For example, you said that you mentioned article marketing and other free traffic sources as the ones that you use. Although it is possible to make good money with free traffic, it's a fact that 90%+ of the big publishers use paid advertising, so when trying to apply for big networks your traffic sources may not be exactly what they are looking for, since most of them (the big networks) prefer to work with guys doing good volume.

In this case, applying for smaller networks until you have good proof of earnings to show can be a wise choice.


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ChrisBa

My best recommendation is to search through these forums, there are hundreds of threads with lots of amazing tips and info on this

golmedia

give call to your AM, get there details from @affpaying and express bit about your promotions methods

Ray Jonnes

Yeah direct call them and say what amount of traffic and conversions you will bring to them. They like guys with tons of traffic

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Ultimately

Hey Nikomia,

It sounds like proof of earnings or some kind of track record would help immeasurably, why not throw up a white hat campaign around a click bank product or participate in some JV launches here at WF? Good results can only help you get where you want to be... It's also quite possible to make big money in just a few days using only FREE TRAFFIC by promoting good product launches (e.g. Vita Vee in "From Zero to Profits")

Best of luck buddy, I know how frustrating it can be. I'm from New Zealand BUT I live in CHINA right now - also a third world country ^_^ My location often complicates things...

By the way there are plenty of guys from your part of the world that are KILLING it in the industry, maybe you could ask them directly for advice, do you know Ritoban Chakrabarti? He's the guy behind the Profit Instruments course. He knows his stuff and seems like a nice guy as well I am sure he would help if you contacted him directly...

Jeremy Kelsall

With some of the things going on in the industry right now, if a combination of things are true, you are going to have a hard time getting approved by any reputable network.

A "watched" country + No Real business (organized llc, corp, etc) + Good company website or example landers used in other campaigns + a referral = YOUR NOT GETTING ACCEPTED.

6 months ago or so, you could usually find one of the "big dawgs" to take you, even if the rest of them denied you...not so true today.

Many of the household names cpa networks, aren't looking for the newbie trying to make his first dollar that they have to worry about exposing them to liability. Instead, they are looking more and more for proven affiliates that they can establish a profitable relationship with.

The downside to this for new marketers looking to jump into CPA is that in some (many?) cases, they get desperate and sign up for some random hasoffers CPA network that will never pay them...

Plus, you've admitted in this thread to running fraudulent traffic to markethealth offers...there is a good chance that the big networks "know" about you...These guys do talk.

To give yourself the best chance possible at getting accepted.

- Set up a company website
- Set up a couple of landing pages for even a clickbank product and run traffic to them, so that you can show your earnings.
- Get your company organized (corp, LLC, Etc)
- Find someone already established to give you a referral

cashxpert

I believe this to be very true, CPA is for established marketers with an email
list and their own websites.

There is a trust issue that goes both ways they will close your account and
blacklist you if they suspect that your leads are worthless and they will not explain
why.

We do the same in my business (marketing/traffic) non serious / fraudulent
customers will be excluded from my network and warnings will go out to
business partners. This is the best we can do to avoid loosing money.
This also explains why it is so hard to get back in business if you have been
cheating it is not worth the risc.

Will some of you guys that knows this CPA business a please let me know what
kind of list size is recommended and how much traffic traffic one should be able to generate.

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Jeremy Kelsall

I don't know this for sure, but I would think that you telling them that email will be your primary way of generating traffic, would be a negative for a new publisher.

It's kind of hard for them to make sure that you are compliant with emails, where with PPC, SEO, and media buys to some extent they can kind of stalk you and see what you're doing if they want to.

hyy

i think it's easy to go through it ,just do it