Question on PPV stats

ak2000 · 05-04-2011, 09:45 PM

I'm testing a PPV campaign using PPV with URL targeting...

How many views PER SITE would you suggesting getting before deciding if that particular URL is profitable or not?

Here is what I mean...when you are using close to 2k URLs in your targeting, even if you have a few thousand views you are bound to have just a few views PER SITE...hardly enough to assess conversions/profitability...

How many views should I wait to have before reasonably assessing the profitability of the URL - or should I reduce the number of URLs?

Thank you!

mtmjohn · 05-04-2011, 10:11 PM

I usually spend 2x the amount of the offer’s payout per URL before deciding if it is a winner or a loser. If I'm not close to breaking even just move on to the next one.

imback · 05-04-2011, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtmjohn

I usually spend 2x the amount of the offer’s payout per URL before deciding if it is a winner or a loser. If I'm not close to breaking even just move on to the next one.

I would do what mtmjohn has suggested. It is definitely sufficient enough, but you could wait a little longer.

Goodluck,

CHAD

digitalguy · 05-04-2011, 10:39 PM

Pay-per-view (PPV) provides a service by which a television audience can purchase events to view via private telecast. The broadcaster shows the event at the same time to everyone ordering it. Events can be purchased using an on-screen guide, an automated telephone system, or through a live customer service representative. Events often include feature films, sporting events, pornographic movies and "special" events such as professional wrestling.

ak2000 · 05-05-2011, 03:18 AM

Thanks everyone - my question was more around the min number of clicks per URL to assess the campaign's profitability...or would you suggest I ignore the specific issue altogether?

ChrisBa · 05-05-2011, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ak2000

I'm testing a PPV campaign using PPV with URL targeting...

How many views PER SITE would you suggesting getting before deciding if that particular URL is profitable or not?

Here is what I mean...when you are using close to 2k URLs in your targeting, even if you have a few thousand views you are bound to have just a few views PER SITE...hardly enough to assess conversions/profitability...

How many views should I wait to have before reasonably assessing the profitability of the URL - or should I reduce the number of URLs?

Thank you!

Honestly if you are starting out 2000 urls is probably too many as you will likely get discouraged and quit the campaign. Try with 100 urls and go 2x what the offer pays.

ak2000 · 05-05-2011, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisBa

Honestly if you are starting out 2000 urls is probably too many as you will likely get discouraged and quit the campaign. Try with 100 urls and go 2x what the offer pays.

Thank you Chris Ba, will give it a shot and let you know how it goes!

Das Newb · 05-06-2011, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisBa

Honestly if you are starting out 2000 urls is probably too many as you will likely get discouraged and quit the campaign. Try with 100 urls and go 2x what the offer pays.

Wouldn't 2000 URLs just help your odds at turning a profit? Assuming they're targeted correctly...

mmcmahon · 05-07-2011, 04:32 PM

1x offer payout, test mon - thur for most predictable results. Also PPV pages burn out

bbrock32 · 05-08-2011, 02:55 PM

I usually start with only 10 urls ( medium to high traffic ) and let each one spend at max 2x the payout.

If an url has spent 2x the payout and has no conversions I cut it.

If some url isn't profitable but has some conversions I move it to a new campaign and create a landing page taylored to that keyword only.

mtmjohn · 05-09-2011, 01:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbrock32

I usually start with only 10 urls ( medium to high traffic ) and let each one spend at max 2x the payout.

If an url has spent 2x the payout and has no conversions I cut it.

If some url isn't profitable but has some conversions I move it to a new campaign and create a landing page taylored to that keyword only.

Sounds promising. Thanks for sharing this great strategy with us

ak2000 · 05-09-2011, 02:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bbrock32

I usually start with only 10 urls ( medium to high traffic ) and let each one spend at max 2x the payout.

If an url has spent 2x the payout and has no conversions I cut it.

If some url isn't profitable but has some conversions I move it to a new campaign and create a landing page taylored to that keyword only.

Thanks, I'll try that with a keyword that has converted well!

spope91 · 05-09-2011, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mtmjohn

I usually spend 2x the amount of the offer’s payout per URL before deciding if it is a winner or a loser. If I'm not close to breaking even just move on to the next one.

I personally think this is the best methoid when testing, you can't go wrong with this, it's a quick way to decide if you have a winner or loser.

All the best.

tonydyt · 05-09-2011, 03:35 AM

Sounds very interesting, what kind of offers work well with ppv? would gaming offers work?

bbrock32 · 05-09-2011, 03:28 PM

I have had the most success with offers that pay $10+.

This means Finance ( credit reports ) , Mobile ( quizzes ) , Edu ( Degree offers ) , Rebills ( bizzops ) .

Gaming offers can work but require a lot of effort because of the low payout.

robyun · 05-09-2011, 04:47 PM

I don't think it's really okay to think in views/url, I'd rather think in $/url. I usually tend to spend about $10-15/campaign and see if it's profitable and gets me a decent ROI.

djedje70 · 05-10-2011, 02:54 PM

Hi,

It also depends on the network you advertise with. I only work with mediatraffic and directcpv; both networks won't give the same roi on the same campaign.

I usually run the same campaign on both network and spend on each 2x the value of the offer on each network. Weed out the bad urls quickly.

Also, if you more money, some friends of mine have had great success with trafficvance for gaming offers.

jzorro · 05-17-2011, 03:56 PM

Hi!

And how about direct link versus landing page?

What works with direct linking and what works better with a landing page?

ak2000 · 05-19-2011, 12:03 AM

Hi ChrisBa, I am trying to PM you on an opportunity but it looks like your account cannot receive PMs...

Can you kindly PM me your email address?

Thanks a bunch!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChrisBa

Honestly if you are starting out 2000 urls is probably too many as you will likely get discouraged and quit the campaign. Try with 100 urls and go 2x what the offer pays.

hilarious89 · 05-19-2011, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ak2000

I'm testing a PPV campaign using PPV with URL targeting...

How many views PER SITE would you suggesting getting before deciding if that particular URL is profitable or not?

Here is what I mean...when you are using close to 2k URLs in your targeting, even if you have a few thousand views you are bound to have just a few views PER SITE...hardly enough to assess conversions/profitability...

How many views should I wait to have before reasonably assessing the profitability of the URL - or should I reduce the number of URLs?

Thank you!

In my sense 15 URLs................

05-04-2011, 09:45 PM	#1
ak2000 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: London Posts: 387 Thanks: 55 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Question on PPV stats I'm testing a PPV campaign using PPV with URL targeting... How many views PER SITE would you suggesting getting before deciding if that particular URL is profitable or not? Here is what I mean...when you are using close to 2k URLs in your targeting, even if you have a few thousand views you are bound to have just a few views PER SITE...hardly enough to assess conversions/profitability... How many views should I wait to have before reasonably assessing the profitability of the URL - or should I reduce the number of URLs? Thank you!

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digitalguy Active Warrior Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 41 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	Re: Question on PPV stats Pay-per-view (PPV) provides a service by which a television audience can purchase events to view via private telecast. The broadcaster shows the event at the same time to everyone ordering it. Events can be purchased using an on-screen guide, an automated telephone system, or through a live customer service representative. Events often include feature films, sporting events, pornographic movies and "special" events such as professional wrestling.
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05-05-2011, 03:18 AM	#5
ak2000 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: London Posts: 387 Thanks: 55 Thanked 9 Times in 8 Posts	Re: Question on PPV stats Thanks everyone - my question was more around the min number of clicks per URL to assess the campaign's profitability...or would you suggest I ignore the specific issue altogether?

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mmcmahon Warrior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: , , Australia. Posts: 17 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Question on PPV stats 1x offer payout, test mon - thur for most predictable results. Also PPV pages burn out

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bbrock32 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 159 Thanks: 1 Thanked 33 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Question on PPV stats I usually start with only 10 urls ( medium to high traffic ) and let each one spend at max 2x the payout. If an url has spent 2x the payout and has no conversions I cut it. If some url isn't profitable but has some conversions I move it to a new campaign and create a landing page taylored to that keyword only.
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tonydyt HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 104 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts Contact Info	Re: Question on PPV stats Sounds very interesting, what kind of offers work well with ppv? would gaming offers work?
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bbrock32 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 159 Thanks: 1 Thanked 33 Times in 23 Posts	Re: Question on PPV stats I have had the most success with offers that pay $10+. This means Finance ( credit reports ) , Mobile ( quizzes ) , Edu ( Degree offers ) , Rebills ( bizzops ) . Gaming offers can work but require a lot of effort because of the low payout.
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robyun Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 76 Thanks: 13 Thanked 17 Times in 7 Posts	Re: Question on PPV stats I don't think it's really okay to think in views/url, I'd rather think in $/url. I usually tend to spend about $10-15/campaign and see if it's profitable and gets me a decent ROI.

05-10-2011, 02:54 PM	#17
djedje70 Warrior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 1 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Re: Question on PPV stats Hi, It also depends on the network you advertise with. I only work with mediatraffic and directcpv; both networks won't give the same roi on the same campaign. I usually run the same campaign on both network and spend on each 2x the value of the offer on each network. Weed out the bad urls quickly. Also, if you more money, some friends of mine have had great success with trafficvance for gaming offers.

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