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Old 12-20-2008, 05:02 AM   #1
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Hi Warriors,

CPA business model is one of the most lucrative ways of making money online.

But, the problem is that, even though CPA is profitable, in order to exploit its benefits you have to do it right.

And, some of the biggest mistakes people make when promoting CPA offers are:

  • Using high risk offer ;
  • Driving untargeted traffic ;
  • Joining bad CPA network ;
  • Not properly using PPC with CPA.

These are most of the mistakes I usually see.

What do you think are the biggest mistakes?


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Old 12-20-2008, 08:50 AM   #2
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the biggest mistake is usiging blackhat methods
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Joining bad CPA networks is bigger then people relize!






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Chasing untargeted traffic is by far the biggest mistake due to the time wasted putting your pitch in front of various sources of traffic that couldn't care less!

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Can you give some examples of high risk offers and bad CPA networks? If you prefer not to bad mouth a company in the forums you can PM me. I'm just learning about CPA offers so any insight would be welcome.
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Can you give some examples of high risk offers and bad CPA networks? If you prefer not to bad mouth a company in the forums you can PM me. I'm just learning about CPA offers so any insight would be welcome.
I would like that PM as well, please. Thank you.

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I hit the wrong key and posted the previous message #8 before I finished typing.

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As I was saying, having a star system would be the same as any product/service review. People will make up their own mind. Someone posted a long list of CPA networks. Suggest we start with that. How do we go about ranking each CPA company, how can we collate the data? Any suggestions.
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As you said , before you joining any CPA network , you have to make research and analysis to find out good CPA networks .

Shishay

Yes, The VERY EASIEST way to totally avoid any problems ( for the most part ) is to only deal with the larger networks... The only networks I had problems with were smaller networks.


Here are a few networks for you:

Neverblue... ***** ( five stars all things considered )
traffic needs **** ( four stars all things considered )
Hydra **** ( four stars all things considered... there support has
always been a little on the bad side)
Affiliate.com (cpa empire) ***** ( five stars all things cosidered )



That should give you a good start... Basically just do work with companies that have a good reputation and are large... They are not those things for no reason!



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Hey gang,

Yeah, I do agree that CPA is one of the best business to get into. And the list you guys made is incredible.

Has anyone tried Millnic Media? Any opinions? I have seen on my associates account where his monthly income just from Millnic Media is really incredible.

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The biggest mistake with cpa is not taking care (hiding) of your traffic source. We are only sub-affiliates. If the affiliate knows that his "sub-affiliate" is banking, then they will "expire" the method and use the source of traffic themselves. They get much bigger commissions this way. There are a lot of horror stories about the networks behavior.

Oh, and I don`t trust milnic at all. I don`t like the way they communicate.
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the biggest mistake is usiging blackhat methods
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A quick note on blackhat. People who use blackhat techniques are the type to send mass spam, create and distribute spyware and cheat systems using automated software.

It's a quick way to get banned by the CPA networks and if used for search engines, can also get you banned with google.

Stick with whitehat. Do things legally and ethically and you will remain in business and making money for years to come.

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I'll second that, investorguy!

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Thanks everyone! no problem...

Hey Josh, Millnic Media, I have not done anything with them even though i have an accounT becasue there website ( the backend ) is the worst most unorginized, ugly, slow thing that you could imagine! I think they have quite a few offers but i dont persanally know anyone who would take the time and try to actualy find an offer on there site!

There support is not that good either... They have AIM but I dont think I was able to ever get anyone on there... maybe once time just to be safe! If you want to contact them you had to call in witch was just a big routine for somthing that other companies make so easy!



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Not a big fan of clickbooth
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the biggest mistake is usiging blackhat methods
Most of the time black hat techniques work only for short period of time .

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I think one of the biggest mistakes is trying to get every campaign to be a home run campaign. Everyone wants that one campaign to do $500k per month. That's not a solid route to follow though. Campaigns do come and they do go. Nothing is forever, although some can last years before drying up. They key to long term success is to have several campaigns promoting several different offers in several different niches. That way you're building a solid portfolio of income streams versus one huge one, (which is one huge risk too). I tell all my members to aim for 10 campaigns doing $100 profit per day each before you try to "scale/wreck" them. Over-tinkering with campaigns is a top reason why most campaigns fail from the start. Let them work, move onto the next one once get the prior one up to $100 profit per day on auto. At the end of the day, you have 10 solid money makers working on auto pilot, so now you can go and make another 10 or try to scale/wreck, (same thing usually), your existing campaigns.


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A quick note on blackhat. People who use blackhat techniques are the type to send mass spam, create and distribute spyware and cheat systems using automated software.

It's a quick way to get banned by the CPA networks and if used for search engines, can also get you banned with google.

Stick with whitehat. Do things legally and ethically and you will remain in business and making money for years to come.

You clearly don't have any clue in regards to what black hat really is.

Therefore I highly recommend you DO stick to white hat methods.
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The biggest mistake in my opinion is directing the wrong traffic using pay click to your CPA offers.

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The biggest mistake in my opinion is directing the wrong traffic using pay click to your CPA offers.
I am strong believer of PPC especially Google Adwords , because it allows you to bring targeted traffic .

So, when ever you use PPC with CPA , make sure to properly build your campaign .

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i am from India, can i benefit from CPA too ?

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i am from India, can i benefit from CPA too ?
Why not .

Where ever you are around the world , you can benefit from CPA , if you know how to use it .

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Why not .

Where ever you are around the world , you can benefit from CPA , if you know how to use it .

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Really, i thot there were some that don't accept international affiliates?
Or could i be wrong about that?

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Really, i thot there were some that don't accept international affiliates?
Or could i be wrong about that?
It does not mean that joining all of them is the way to make money .

Just join the networks that accept world wide and start making money .

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i'd have to say traffic....

if you don't have good traffic, you won't make anything from CPA...

unless it's incent.

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The biggest mistake with cpa is not taking care (hiding) of your traffic source. We are only sub-affiliates. If the affiliate knows that his "sub-affiliate" is banking, then they will "expire" the method and use the source of traffic themselves. They get much bigger commissions this way. There are a lot of horror stories about the networks behavior.

Oh, and I don`t trust milnic at all. I don`t like the way they communicate.
aleisterone,

Can you please elaborate on what you mean by hiding your traffic sources?
Do you mean the affiliate network will try to reverse engineer your offers and then copy them for their own campaigns?
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Can you please elaborate on what you mean by hiding your traffic sources?
Do you mean the affiliate network will try to reverse engineer your offers and then copy them for their own campaigns?
Hello,

Yes, CPA will do exactly that.


The easiest way to cloak your traffic so that the cpa companies can not copy your traffic source and actually become your competition, then band you so they dont have any compitition! The best thing to do is simple set up a few redirects like this... A click here link ( redirects to ) -----> a middle domain ( the middle domain redirects to your aff link ) -----> Your landing page!

This happends very fast so it is hard to notice anything is even going on.

This little trick will totally cloak your traffic so that the cpa networks can not find the source of the traffic!

I use this every day and it works.


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Yes, CPA will do exactly that.


The easiest way to cloak your traffic so that the cpa companies can not copy your traffic source and actually become your competition, then band you so they dont have any compitition! The best thing to do is simple set up a few redirects like this... A click here link ( redirects to ) -----> a middle domain ( the middle domain redirects to your aff link ) -----> Your landing page!

This happends very fast so it is hard to notice anything is even going on.

This little trick will totally cloak your traffic so that the cpa networks can not find the source of the traffic!

I use this every day and it works.


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This basically means that you get a domain name, with a pitch page and all that, or just a simple middle domain name containing your affiliate link??
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Using bad CPA network is top most.

Also people spent lot of money on blackhat methods but then they realist that they are good for short term period. People should think about long term and not short term.


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Hi Khailim_88,

No, I think you are thinking to hard about it! The goal in doing this is to cloak your source of your traffic from the cpa networks.


For example if I were to put an aff link right here as a Click Here Link. I would not want a CPA network to be able to track traffic back to this page and see my link, see the post that I made and so on... So what I would do is very simple... The click here link that you see above would redirect to a middle domain name, that middle domain would instantly redirect again to your affiliate link witch is your final landing page where you want your traffic to go! You want to do an http redirect.

Click Here ---> middle domain ---> Your aff landing page !!

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I'm a total newbie to CPA and was always told that the big boys would not let you make any money with CPA.. after reading a lot of post I decided to start researching this opportunity and tried to join several AD Networks.. the only one that excepted me was Max Bounty 2.0

I haven't seen them mentioned here ... so now I'm wondering if they are one of the bad companies you guy's are talking about??

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Hi bubbavine,

I have made a few thousand with max bounty... They are a smaller network located in canada. They were nice to work with, not bad support but I did not like the layout of there website... Once you get approved for hydra or affiliate.com or neverblueads and you see how nice the backends are, you cant stand anything else!

But I think they are a fine company. You seem worried about certain companies being bad and others being good, but that is not the main reason for cloaking your traffic... It does not matter what company you are warking with... Or if they are a great company because it is the affiliate managers that really matter, they are the people looking at your numbers and stuff like that, if they see that you are doing thousands of dollars a month and your traffic is not cloaked so they could see what you are doing if they want to........ Then guess what is going to happen! Dont tempt them, just cloak your traffic and guard yourself.


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A quick note on blackhat. People who use blackhat techniques are the type to send mass spam, create and distribute spyware and cheat systems using automated software.

It's a quick way to get banned by the CPA networks and if used for search engines, can also get you banned with google.

Stick with whitehat. Do things legally and ethically and you will remain in business and making money for years to come.
I am not in any way a marketer with a black hat, but I have to say that your statement couldn't be further from the truth. True blackhat marketing is simply looking outside of the box - more often, and trying to automate as much of the process as possible.

What you're talking about is spam marketing, and spam marketers... black hat marketing is built on completely different morals..
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biggest mistake - not taking ANY action... researching it to death without doing anything. Even when you try things that don't work you learn.

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want...LOL

Your budget/time/level will dictate what methods and directions you will take
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biggest mistake - not taking ANY action.
Not Taking action - every time you learn something is one of the common problems of IM business .

It is generally applied for a variety of fields .

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Hey Bubblevine,

Just CALL the CPA network you WANT to get started in. Let them know you do most of your lead generation using PPC. Shouldn't have any problem getting accepted.

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Yes, CPA will do exactly that.


The easiest way to cloak your traffic so that the cpa companies can not copy your traffic source and actually become your competition, then band you so they dont have any compitition! The best thing to do is simple set up a few redirects like this... A click here link ( redirects to ) -----> a middle domain ( the middle domain redirects to your aff link ) -----> Your landing page!
Many thanks to Micah for this important safety tip!

(I would have just clicked the thank you button, but I think I have too few posts
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driving untargeted visitors is the worst because you aren't going to earn.

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Many thanks to Micah for this important safety tip!

(I would have just clicked the thank you button, but I think I have too few posts
Hey thanks a lot freddie_fireman!

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biggest mistake - not taking ANY action... researching it to death without doing anything. Even when you try things that don't work you learn.

Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want...LOL

Your budget/time/level will dictate what methods and directions you will take
Well said. Thats the key to success. very few people hit a home ruun straight outta the gate!
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Great thread guys. Summarising things a little...

Use a top notch company both so you'll get paid and so there are enough vendors for your traffic.

Don't use blackhat, although as was mentioned above, if blackhat is just being nnovative rather than harmful ...then so be it.

Be careful using addwords arbitrage that sends the wrong traffic.

And my personal favourite from the posts above.....innaction!

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Getting banned for using unethical methods...lol

No personal experience, thank god
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Thanks for the interesting info on different CPA networks. What do I need to start CPA? Can you let me know the building blocks to start doing CPA?
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Some of the killing mistake apart from not taking action at the right time till competition gets tougher are like "No Testing", "Too many keywords in same basket", and not knowing what traffic is converting.
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Hi Khailim_88,

No, I think you are thinking to hard about it! The goal in doing this is to cloak your source of your traffic from the cpa networks.


For example if I were to put an aff link right here as a Click Here Link. I would not want a CPA network to be able to track traffic back to this page and see my link, see the post that I made and so on... So what I would do is very simple... The click here link that you see above would redirect to a middle domain name, that middle domain would instantly redirect again to your affiliate link witch is your final landing page where you want your traffic to go! You want to do an http redirect.

Click Here ---> middle domain ---> Your aff landing page !!

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By middle domain do you mean something like tinyurl.com, bit.ly etc? Because with direct track they can easily track this.

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There are wordpress blog plugins that can redirect for you as well. Use those with a domain you own, then redirect t the offer. looks more natural.
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Biggest mistake, being lazy. And not working hard to get accepted to the top networks right away.

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Biggest mistake - Working in panic mode. Once you venture into the world of CPA it can be overwhelming. There are so many offers to promote, so many ways to promote them, so many books telling you what and how to promote. The biggest mistake can be to dive in and start to try to promote everything with a multitude of promotional methods, without giving much thought to planning the right strategy for individual offers.

Making money with CPA needs like every other money making method needs to be given careful planning and thought to be really effective.
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