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Old 05-26-2011, 11:03 AM   #1
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Am I the only one here subject to massive scraping on e-mail offers by Neverblue...or am I missing something?

In the past, I've had hundreds of clicks with zero conversions, then I switched to the same offer on another network, and VOILA - conversions like mad.

Same thing today - 360 clicks on highly targeted customers, with zero conversions.

Thing is, right now, I don't have a compatible network that also accepts Twitter traffic. Suggestions?

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Are the clicks going to the same affiliate offer or another offer? Perhaps the landing page isn't effective.

I have sold lots of coffee and stuff via Amazon, and nothing via CJ. But it could be vendor recognition as well. Do broader testing or just use those that work.

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Old 05-26-2011, 11:30 AM   #3
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This particular one is going to the same one, but I've had the same experience in the past with multiple offers. As far as landing page, it goes directly to the vendor page, and the copy is written for that, so that should represent no issues.

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I've always had good experiences with neverblue, do you have anything to back this up?

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Old 05-26-2011, 08:00 PM   #5
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Honestly,

Neverblue is one of the most professional networks out there. Headquarters in Canada and many offices around the world. I doubt this is anything big.


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Old 05-26-2011, 10:57 PM   #6
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Neverblue is definitely a very credible and respected network no doubt about that. (or should I say aboot?). For scrubbing, (I think that's what you meant by scraping?), it does vary from network to network. I've found that sometimes if you're running it through a large network with lots of other affiliates running the same offer, you might get scrubbed a bit harder and a bit faster due to the sheer volume of duplicates the merchants get from that network.

Remember networks don't scrub, merchants do. When a merchant starts getting too many duplicates or too many non converting leads from a source, (ie a network), they will "turn up the scrubber", which in effect means they just tell their script to go back more days to find duplicate emails in their already massive database. (Which is what scrubbing is, scrubbing an email against their existing database). The reason for the difference between networks is if Network A is sending traffic that converts, the merchant will not turn up the scrubber on them. IF Network B gets more volume and maybe has a couple rouge affiliates sending through a lot of crap, then the merchant will scrub them harder. Again meaning instead of checking their existing database back 1 day for duplicates, they might go back 2 days or 7 days which makes it harder to get a conversion for the affiliate.

Don't ask me how I know this, as I could tell you but I'd have to kill you as it's classified.


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How are you tracking the clicks? If you check your CPA network it might show 300 clicks but if you use bit.ly it might on show pnly 10 clicks, I think the CPA network counts it as a click when twitter bot crawls your tweet. I have noticed this while using tweet attacks.
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Old 05-26-2011, 11:34 PM   #8
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Neverblue offers convert great!

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