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Old 06-17-2011, 01:01 AM   #1
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Hi guys,

I'am promoting an email/zip submit offer in the music nich, the name of the website iam using to promote the offer consist of 3 keyword matching the offer.
I'am driving traffic through ppc from 7search. with a conversion rate of 0.54% I think this is pretty bad, what do you guys think? What can be improved?

btw i dont have any landing page, i'am just cloaking and redirecting the offer.

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Old 06-17-2011, 01:47 AM   #2
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jinn, in my experience the quality of 7search is not major. Also check that the offer is actualy of quality and not scrubbing you, hit your AM up and check.

However, why don't you try it on facebook? I'm sure the paticular section in the music niche is popular there.... submits tend to do better in a social platform BUT you will need to baby sit it as alot scrub!

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jinn, in my experience the quality of 7search is not major. Also check that the offer is actualy of quality and not scrubbing you, hit your AM up and check.

However, why don't you try it on facebook? I'm sure the paticular section in the music niche is popular there.... submits tend to do better in a social platform BUT you will need to baby sit it as alot scrub!

Hope that helps.
Hi PandoraMarketing,

By that I'am guessing you mean that the traffic quality form 7search is not good? I have tried facebook ads, however my ads tends to always get rejected, i believe they require some sort of a landing page...

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Jinn, yes i'm referring to the traffic quality, don't strike it off though as it's cheap.

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Thanks alot, i will sure check it out

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Hey Jinn,

Have you tried to track your keywords . Focus on keywords that are making the most leads .

Make also sure to split test multiple CPA offers .

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Have you tried to track your keywords . Focus on keywords that are making the most leads .

Make also sure to split test multiple CPA offers .
Hi Mike,

I have not made any tracking yet, but is that possible in 7search? as i said earlier i dont have any landing page so there is no "thank you page" or similar. Unfortunately there is only one offer that matches the domain name, would it be strange to promote an offer in the music nich but that does not match the domain name wich are my keywords?

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Hi guys,

I'am promoting an email/zip submit offer in the music nich, the name of the website iam using to promote the offer consist of 3 keyword matching the offer.
I'am driving traffic through ppc from 7search. with a conversion rate of 0.54% I think this is pretty bad, what do you guys think? What can be improved?

btw i dont have any landing page, i'am just cloaking and redirecting the offer.

All comments are welcomed.

BR
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Hey Jinn,

A few things by reading this..
Music niche is tough, you are competing with people pushing ringtones (payout 10x the amount of zip/emails submits)
7search can work, but also can be difficult
Are the offer(s) related to the keywords you are bidding on?

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Hey Jinn,

A few things by reading this..
Music niche is tough, you are competing with people pushing ringtones (payout 10x the amount of zip/emails submits)
7search can work, but also can be difficult
Are the offer(s) related to the keywords you are bidding on?
Hi ChrisBa and thanks for your input,

Wel there is only one offer that matches exact the keywords, the other ones are pretty irrelevant cause they are general music offers.

The offer is available at peerfly and what i can see there is that it has a CR of 1.87%, that maybe are to low to start with? cause what i've done is that i've chosen the keyword and domain before actually looking for the offer,the keyword are pretty popular so I assumed there would be plenty of offers.

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Pause this offer and try another one. Test your campaigns with 100-200 clicks if they don't converts just move on to find a better one. If you find the offer converting but there is something weird about it, then you can start testing by changing your keywords and landing page and you may get better result. The good campaigns are good from the start and if they are dried it wont help if you send them best traffic.

To track your keywords with 7search, just use ###KEYWORD### as your sub id and use the link after. And remember 7search is not Google.

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Pause this offer and try another one. Test your campaigns with 100-200 clicks if they don't converts just move on to find a better one. If you find the offer converting but there is something weird about it, then you can start testing by changing your keywords and landing page and you may get better result. The good campaigns are good from the start and if they are dried it wont help if you send them best traffic.

To track your keywords with 7search, just use ###KEYWORD### as your sub id and use the link after. And remember 7search is not Google.
Hi Mahmoud,

Really great and helpfull info there . I will try another offer and this time track my keywords and optimize from that, I will sure keep you guys updated.

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Test, test, test and optimize.

Split-test other similar offers and track your keywords. Try to find good combinations and remove the ones that are making you lose money.

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Default Re: 919 clicks - 5 leads ... what am i doing wrong??

PPC requires a lot of testing. You have to make sure that you are constantly checking where your traffic is coming from, at what rate, and what your conversions are like. If they are consistently doing bad, there's no point in risking it. Try something else. If not, you can end up losing money fast.

Also, look into better "quality" PPC sites. They may cost a little more, but work it out. Are you better off paying more and getting less impressions but more conversions? Or would you rather pay less and hope for a strike of luck?

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Thanks alot guys this info is really appreciated and needed.

@xwgpx55, wich other ppc networks beside google and 7search are there? wich one do you consider "quality" PPC sites?

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same here i am promoting dating offer i got 360 clicks and 4 conversion thats pretty bad

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same here i am promoting dating offer i got 360 clicks and 4 conversion thats pretty bad
You need to find your winner keywords and remove the losers. Check which keywords that gave you that 4 conversions.

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Are you using bidtraffic? they use 7search and they are absolute crap so I suggest you go with a different PPC network like adbrite or so.
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Are you using bidtraffic? they use 7search and they are absolute crap so I suggest you go with a different PPC network like adbrite or so.
I use 7search and getting good conversion. Adbrite didn't worked for me.

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I use 7search and getting good conversion. Adbrite didn't worked for me.
Ah, well I don't like 7search that much, they have banned me before andmy CTR was around 0.98% so I have moved from them to PepperJam Network and so far they are one of the best.
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Ah, well I don't like 7search that much, they have banned me before andmy CTR was around 0.98% so I have moved from them to PepperJam Network and so far they are one of the best.
I am sorry to hear that, and thank you for the info about PepperJam I will check them.

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Default Re: 919 clicks - 5 leads ... what am i doing wrong??

You always have to track and optimize the traffic you are sending to your landing pages. There lots of tracking platforms out there. If you do not know how to track your campaigns then stop paying for the traffic, learn how to track it and then re-run your campaigns.

After tracking the traffic for 2-3 days then you can simply remove those keywords that do not work. When you have found the high CTR keywords, go for the optimization of your landing page to increase the conversion rate.

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add keywords after checking their competition and search in google adwords it helps a lot

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