Need to understand the difference

bumba1988 · 07-16-2011, 08:32 AM

Hi All,

I am a bit confused with the working procedure of "First Page Submit" and "Email Submit" offers. What I understand is:

1) "First Page Submit" offers convert after the user fills in details in the first page and submits. However, my question is the conversion dependent on how far the user moves in the website (2nd page, 3rd page or maybe more) or the CPA marketer gets credited as soon as the user submits information on the first page and it is irrespective of the fact that whether the user continues with the next page or not?

2) Same question for "Email Submit" offers as well. For me to get credited, do the user need only to submit email and things are done irrespective of whether the user moves further or not?

Looking forward to responses.

Mahmoud Selman · 07-16-2011, 08:52 AM

Hi Bumba,
Yes you are right, first page conversion is when a user fill out the 1st pages even if offer have 9 pages. Most of the information are in the first page like Name, Email, Zip etc ..
Email submit is when a user fill his email address. Same for the zip submit.
You may see lot of clicks with no conversions and that could be caused by many factors like EPC , Scrub and traffic quality.

Hope that helps

bumba1988 · 07-16-2011, 08:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahmoud Selman

Hi Bumba,
Yes you are right, first page conversion is when a user fill out the 1st pages even if offer have 9 pages. Most of the information are in the first page like Name, Email, Zip etc ..
Email submit is when a user fill his email address. Same for the zip submit.
You may see lot of clicks with no conversions and that could be caused by many factors like EPC , Scrub and traffic quality.

Hope that helps

First of all,

Thanks for your reply and providing me with the answer. Yes, I actually had bad luck with Email Submit offers earlier. But, anyway, I will try it again, probably with PPC marketing.

Can you please let me know what do you mean by EPC and Scrub? I assume EPC to be Estimated Cost Per Click (May be, I am wrong). What is Scrub though?

Mahmoud Selman · 07-16-2011, 09:11 AM

You can read about EPC here
Here is a good answer by PPC-Coach in this Forum about scrub.

bumba1988 · 07-18-2011, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shevchenko

About EPC you are wrong. EPC -earning per click!

Thanks for pointing that out. I really appreciate your help.

sith005 · 07-21-2011, 06:57 PM

Mahmoud linked 2 good posts to explain these. EPC=Earnings Per Click and scrub is when the advertiser doesn't count your lead for on reason or another, in many cases due to them already having the e-mail in their database, etc. Check out the links he put though, I can't explain it better than Will (PPC-Coach).

viscoa · 07-28-2011, 08:20 PM

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bumba1988 HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 173 Thanks: 25 Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Need to understand the difference Hi All, I am a bit confused with the working procedure of "First Page Submit" and "Email Submit" offers. What I understand is: 1) "First Page Submit" offers convert after the user fills in details in the first page and submits. However, my question is the conversion dependent on how far the user moves in the website (2nd page, 3rd page or maybe more) or the CPA marketer gets credited as soon as the user submits information on the first page and it is irrespective of the fact that whether the user continues with the next page or not? 2) Same question for "Email Submit" offers as well. For me to get credited, do the user need only to submit email and things are done irrespective of whether the user moves further or not? Looking forward to responses.
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Mahmoud Selman Selman.us War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 822 Thanks: 317 Thanked 273 Times in 174 Posts Social Networking	Re: Need to understand the difference Hi Bumba, Yes you are right, first page conversion is when a user fill out the 1st pages even if offer have 9 pages. Most of the information are in the first page like Name, Email, Zip etc .. Email submit is when a user fill his email address. Same for the zip submit. You may see lot of clicks with no conversions and that could be caused by many factors like EPC , Scrub and traffic quality. Hope that helps
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Mahmoud Selman Selman.us War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Sweden Posts: 822 Thanks: 317 Thanked 273 Times in 174 Posts Social Networking	Re: Need to understand the difference You can read about EPC here Here is a good answer by PPC-Coach in this Forum about scrub.
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sith005 HyperActive Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Silicon Valley Posts: 212 Thanks: 34 Thanked 109 Times in 73 Posts	Re: Need to understand the difference Mahmoud linked 2 good posts to explain these. EPC=Earnings Per Click and scrub is when the advertiser doesn't count your lead for on reason or another, in many cases due to them already having the e-mail in their database, etc. Check out the links he put though, I can't explain it better than Will (PPC-Coach).
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viscoa Active Warrior Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 74 Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts	Re: Need to understand the difference Learning and know about EPC's is so important in this business they will be what you base your successes and failures off of!