CPA is better than Adsense, Clickbank

Adie · 07-21-2011, 04:59 AM

Of 6 experimental sites I am running since the beginning of this year, I found out that CPA is waaaayyy better than adsense and clickbank. I think it's because Adsense is sliding down these days.

My CPA site having an average of 80 organic visitors per day is averaging 4 to 6 ZIP conversions ($7.00), while a combined 3 Adsense niche sites on high paying niches having a total daily average of 150 visitors per day is barely getting 3 to 5 clicks a day ($2.00). Meanwhile, clickbank is not doing any good at all....

I suggest, if you have time, do more sites for CPA instead of writing articles for adsense niche sites. Most CPA programs almost have the same offers so regardless of program you are in, your site will still be effective.

My 18-month old CPA site is not failing me at all even though I only post 2 articles per month.....

ezybux4u · 07-21-2011, 05:11 AM

Everything you have revealed Adie rings a familiar bell with me. On the topic of AdSense I have been banned for two years, and it was when my first payment was set to be sent out that it happened. Figures.

Clickbank is alright I guess if you are promoting products of genuine high value and not the usual crowd of BS this floats in their Marketplace.

The low maintenance and good return on time investment you mentioned on your 18-month old CPA site is enticing. I'd love a PM about what sort of things are possible using CPA methods.

Mike Morgan. · 07-21-2011, 05:39 AM

I do I agree with you .

I have tested Adsense , clickbank and CPA offers .

On most occasions , CPA offers perform better than adsense ads or clickbank products .

ChrisBa · 07-21-2011, 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adie

Of 6 experimental sites I am running since the beginning of this year, I found out that CPA is waaaayyy better than adsense and clickbank. I think it's because Adsense is sliding down these days.

My CPA site having an average of 80 organic visitors per day is averaging 4 to 6 ZIP conversions ($7.00), while a combined 3 Adsense niche sites on high paying niches having a total daily average of 150 visitors per day is barely getting 3 to 5 clicks a day ($2.00). Meanwhile, clickbank is not doing any good at all....

I suggest, if you have time, do more sites for CPA instead of writing articles for adsense niche sites. Most CPA programs almost have the same offers so regardless of program you are in, your site will still be effective.

My 18-month old CPA site is not failing me at all even though I only post 2 articles per month.....

I wouldn't say it's better, its just different.. with keep in mind, I don't even bother with adsense and have minimal involvement with amazon

blazr63 · 07-21-2011, 09:04 AM

Until a couple of months ago I was able to make decent money with Adsense, but lately they're not paying me well, so I do better with CPA. I have a dating site with some Adsense banners that payed 40 cents to $1.50 a click. Now those same banners pay around 5-15 cents. Not sure why?

Mahmoud Selman · 07-21-2011, 10:02 AM

Adsense is too bad to be placed on any website and to take away your visitors from your site. I have tested adsense for long time and its really worthless.

KentLijitRiggs · 07-21-2011, 11:11 AM

Making a blanket statement that given ad models are good or bad is not an effective use of the tools available. My experience has shown that the effective method is choosing the correct ad model for your particular site, content generation cycle, and readership.

Ad Sense pays very well for sites that are suited for higher CTR and more traffic. CPA can perform better for sites with smaller more niche targeted sites to maximize each of a few clicks. There are many companies and methods to increase revenue out there.

Personally, I am in the CPM space where sites that may have less traffic, relatively speaking, may not thrive but we perform very well for sites with larger traffic on the impression based model.

Success will come from researching and/or testing which model is most effective what you're doing on a site by site basis.

Adie · 07-21-2011, 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KentLijitRiggs

Making a blanket statement that given ad models are good or bad is not an effective use of the tools available. My experience has shown that the effective method is choosing the correct ad model for your particular site, content generation cycle, and readership.

Ad Sense pays very well for sites that are suited for higher CTR and more traffic. CPA can perform better for sites with smaller more niche targeted sites to maximize each of a few clicks. There are many companies and methods to increase revenue out there.

Personally, I am in the CPM space where sites that may have less traffic, relatively speaking, may not thrive but we perform very well for sites with larger traffic on the impression based model.

Success will come from researching and/or testing which model is most effective what you're doing on a site by site basis.

I agree but the recent changes on Adsens is making things worst. My friend who was earning $80/day with their news website is now earning $5 to $20 per day for some unexplainable reasons. The traffic is getting higher but the eCPM is getting lower, not to mention at CTR is becoming worse as well. I advised him to start doing CPA and thanks that he listened. Now he has 6 CPA sites doing at least $5 each per day.

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williamrs · 07-22-2011, 07:56 AM

Just like me, people on this section of the forum are suspicious to say anything, since we are all CPA marketers, but, IMO, CPA is unbeatable.

Clickbank products can work, but only when combined with list building. AdSense is the laziest way to make money online, but CPA is certainly the most profitable one.

W

design2convert · 07-23-2011, 06:02 AM

I cant agree with you , exceptions cant be example ...... i tried all of these and i earned much on adsence , so i can say adsence is better thn CPA , .. actually the right thing is the method i followed for adsence that was correct and for cpa , not well , thats why i earned much on adsence

Michael_Le · 07-23-2011, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by design2convert

I cant agree with you , exceptions cant be example ...... i tried all of these and i earned much on adsence , so i can say adsence is better thn CPA , .. actually the right thing is the method i followed for adsence that was correct and for cpa , not well , thats why i earned much on adsence

my thoughts exactly......i too run CPA offers and do well but my income comes mostly from Adsense. People that don't do well are the ones that havent properly optimized there site for it, adsense is a great passive earner and ive even seen with my own eye people that make up to $1million dollars a month from it......obviously that is an exception but it just goes to show what can be achieved. What may not work for one person is a dream come true for another

design2convert · 07-23-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael_Le

What may not work for one person is a dream come true for another

Oh nice quation michael , post it on Some of My Favorite Motivational Quotes here

Chulbul Pandey · 07-23-2011, 12:49 PM

I feel cpa is not meant for long term but adsense optimized well can be your earning source for lifetime.. every1 has there own preference.

theplugindude · 07-23-2011, 08:37 PM

Hi there Adie!

On what topics do you build CPA sites on?

And for adsense, all depends on the keyword research.

If you want to know how to EXACTLY Do keyword research and find out the REAL CPC for adsense keywords, feel free to send me a PM.

Cheers!

mtmjohn · 07-24-2011, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by williamrs

Just like me, people on this section of the forum are suspicious to say anything, since we are all CPA marketers, but, IMO, CPA is unbeatable.

Clickbank products can work, but only when combined with list building. AdSense is the laziest way to make money online, but CPA is certainly the most profitable one.

W

Couldn't agree with you more William. CPA works best for me too

baokhau · 07-24-2011, 06:02 AM

Adsense and CPA marketing are the 2 different fields, hence we cant know that which one is the better.
As far CPA and Clickbank, both of them are about affiliate marketing so the core problem is how to get the targeted traffic to your niche, offers, hence you are lucrative from them.

design2convert · 07-24-2011, 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mahmoud Selman

Adsense is too bad to be placed on any website and to take away your visitors from your site. I have tested adsense for long time and its really worthless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Morgan.

I do I agree with you .

I have tested Adsense , clickbank and CPA offers .

On most occasions , CPA offers perform better than adsense ads or clickbank products .

I cant agree with you cpa lovers!! and i dont tell that adsence is better thn cpa , both is best , but actually what is happening that the way you are following for cpa thats right and mine is bad , and also the way i am following for adsence thats better thn you thats why i am saying adsence is best and you say cpa is best

ekfaysal · 07-24-2011, 08:07 AM

Cant say. it all depends.
if you are targeting good niches, adsense can be better then CPAs.

Michael_Le · 07-24-2011, 11:09 AM

guys, just remember, Internet marketing is a profession just like any other such as doctor, lawyer etc.......what you need to do is find you specialism in that profession i.e. CPA marketer, email marketer adsense marketer etc

it's all a case of deciding which field would suit your needs and then do your best at it, the principle is the same in all i.e. driving traffic but what may work in adsense may not work in CPA or affiliate marketing as every "niche" requires a different strategy.

so make a choice and stick to you. don't just discount one field of marketing over another as there are top dogs in every field.

myself, i specialise in adsense with CPA and affiliate marketing a close second.

Michael_Le · 07-24-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by design2convert

Oh nice quation michael , post it on Some of My Favorite Motivational Quotes here

haha thanks mate......i actually thought that up as i was writing it. glad you like it

icosane · 07-24-2011, 12:57 PM

why not put both on your sites?

Delarox · 07-24-2011, 06:29 PM

I think it probable depends on the niche your targeting..I dont do too bad on adsense

BDubC · 02-10-2012, 12:09 AM

Everything has to be approached completely different, from keyword research, content, positioning of ads on sites, type of traffic... EVERYTHING.

CPA, ADSENSE, AMAZON, CLICKBANK... They all work. It's just that each take a different gameplan.

Once you can convert in any of these areas analyze every aspect of what you are doing and stick to that area. Some things can transfer over, but I have not been able to just swap ads and get the same results. Even in swapping 2 of the same niche CPA ads I don't get the same results.

I have learned that the way you funnel your traffic to your offer/ad/adsense needs to be real specific, one little thing can either boost or drop your conversion rate drastically. And every individual ad/offer/adsense is different, this includes every keyword for adsense needs to be approached a little differently as well.

You have to remember your usually working with conversion rates under 5%, and a lot of times focusing on the decimal, so you are doing every little thing to tweak it up, colors, placements, different words, this goes for an entire site or a simple landing page.

Remember everything matters.

Good luck everyone.

agate · 02-10-2012, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adie

Of 6 experimental sites I am running since the beginning of this year, I found out that CPA is waaaayyy better than adsense and clickbank. I think it's because Adsense is sliding down these days.

My CPA site having an average of 80 organic visitors per day is averaging 4 to 6 ZIP conversions ($7.00), while a combined 3 Adsense niche sites on high paying niches having a total daily average of 150 visitors per day is barely getting 3 to 5 clicks a day ($2.00). Meanwhile, clickbank is not doing any good at all....

I suggest, if you have time, do more sites for CPA instead of writing articles for adsense niche sites. Most CPA programs almost have the same offers so regardless of program you are in, your site will still be effective.

My 18-month old CPA site is not failing me at all even though I only post 2 articles per month.....

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nanovation · 02-10-2012, 08:59 AM

You'll never be able to retire on AdSense, but its a quick and easy way to monitize your traffic. One of my sites gets over 1,000 visitors a day and I only make $50 a day with Adsense. When I put up a CPA offer instead, I make 3X that.

HairyPoppins · 02-10-2012, 09:10 AM

I'm all about CPA it's the only thing that I really try to deal with. But, I could see adsense working, even clickbank. It's just a situational thing. What you were doing was better suited for CPA that doesn't make CPA better in every situation. Broad generalizations can get you into trouble.

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Adie Fooling Around War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Anywhere but Here Posts: 1,793 Thanks: 359 Thanked 248 Times in 131 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	CPA is better than Adsense, Clickbank Of 6 experimental sites I am running since the beginning of this year, I found out that CPA is waaaayyy better than adsense and clickbank. I think it's because Adsense is sliding down these days. My CPA site having an average of 80 organic visitors per day is averaging 4 to 6 ZIP conversions ($7.00), while a combined 3 Adsense niche sites on high paying niches having a total daily average of 150 visitors per day is barely getting 3 to 5 clicks a day ($2.00). Meanwhile, clickbank is not doing any good at all.... I suggest, if you have time, do more sites for CPA instead of writing articles for adsense niche sites. Most CPA programs almost have the same offers so regardless of program you are in, your site will still be effective. My 18-month old CPA site is not failing me at all even though I only post 2 articles per month.....
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ezybux4u Timothy Graeme Albiez War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Townsville, Queensland, Australia Posts: 110 Blog Entries: 2 Thanks: 50 Thanked 24 Times in 22 Posts Social Networking Contact Info	Re: CPA is better than Adsense, Clickbank Everything you have revealed Adie rings a familiar bell with me. On the topic of AdSense I have been banned for two years, and it was when my first payment was set to be sent out that it happened. Figures. Clickbank is alright I guess if you are promoting products of genuine high value and not the usual crowd of BS this floats in their Marketplace. The low maintenance and good return on time investment you mentioned on your 18-month old CPA site is enticing. I'd love a PM about what sort of things are possible using CPA methods.

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