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Old 07-25-2011, 07:20 PM   #1
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I am newly started on doing media buying, but I am total blank on it. Please help me out. Thanks!
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Old 07-25-2011, 08:50 PM   #2
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Man got 7 days so I can explain it all?



What do you want to promote, your stuff or someone elses?

You really need to know your demographic.

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Media buying is kind of advanced method! Have had any success with other sources of traffic? I'd stay away from media buying until I mastered at least 2 sources of paid traffic!

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what exactly are media buys compared to PPC
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You really need to know your demographic.
I may focus on diet category. I am more confused about the technic part. How to do the preliminary data analysis and how to do the post-test. I would appreciate it a lot if there is any advice.
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If you have at least $500 a month to spend on media buys, there is a guy you can learn from who's REALLY good at it, his name is Scott Rewick (google him).

However, If you do not have that budget it would be better to start with facebook and try and build up from there. Recommended to me personally by Mr Rewick alst month of April
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Try this: Low budget media buying for beginners: cheap traffic, simple to do, and unlimited traffic....

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Old 07-27-2011, 09:09 AM   #8
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what exactly are media buys compared to PPC
PPC is keyword based, paying per click to appear when certain keywords are being searched for.

Media Buying is a more detailed as far as targeting. You can purchase media on a per click basis, per impression basis, ETC. You're usually placing media based on the demographic you're targeting.

So for example, if you want your ad to be presented to makes, 18-34 that live in NY, you will have to do research to determine which keywords will yield that type of visitor for PPC. Compared to media buying where you're actually laying out the demo to the ad-network and from there they are presenting your ad on websites that fit that demo.
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Media buys is a bit advanced like Omid said. It requires a lot of attention and can easily turn ugly. I would pick a source you would like you use, learn all you can about it, and go from there. It's the best way to avoid losing money.

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Old 07-27-2011, 09:31 AM   #10
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Yea i probably should have posted something along the lines of what Matthew wrote. Media buying is one of the fastest ways to lose money in this industry. You're most likely better off using PPV traffic. Buying traffic in bulk at a much lower rate compared to media buys, work on optimization techniques, day parting, ETC. Those elements will help you greatly if and when you do decide to transition into media buying.
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The biggest reason people fail with media buys is they don't have a big enough budget to get real data. You have to have a ton of different banner variations and a large budget to figure out what works. It's constant tweaking and adjusting.

You can start small, but odds are you'll quit long before seeing any return.

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Default Re: Any tips for successful media buying?

I agree with all of the above, but also, you need to identify your competitors. See what's out there in the space. This will help you figure out where you need to be in order to keep up with the game. Best of luck!
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Well said. If you can convert through ****ty PPV traffic, you could most likely convert anywhere as long as you're targeted.

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Yea i probably should have posted something along the lines of what Matthew wrote. Media buying is one of the fastest ways to lose money in this industry. You're most likely better off using PPV traffic. Buying traffic in bulk at a much lower rate compared to media buys, work on optimization techniques, day parting, ETC. Those elements will help you greatly if and when you do decide to transition into media buying.
where did u buy traffic, Steve?
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I learned a lot from your talks, however, I am kind of going to do even more homework before I start it. Thanks a lot.
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I would recommend you first start with other display advertising platforms like Facebook.

Once you have a good understanding of the critical components, then you can slowly more to media buys . I would even advice that you start with direct media buys .

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Good "practice" grounds before buying banner-ad space

1. Facebook
2. PPV
3. Plenty of Fish
4. Google Display

Or you can "tweak" ads you see on a consistent basis and model after their components. Then, as ChadH states, you go directly to the webmaster and try to make a deal.

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where did u buy traffic, Steve?
Traffic Vance, i speak often with Grayson over there and he is the man.

but there are other platforms that would be ideal testing grounds if you've already tried TV or you're looking for something else.

If you need a referral in TV please feel free to email me and i will gladly assist.

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If you need a referral in TV please feel free to email me and i will gladly assist.
That is really nice of you. I may focus on online media.
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I am newly started on doing media buying, but I am total blank on it. Please help me out. Thanks!
Well, what experience do you have? Where are you planning on buying traffic from? Do you have any experience creating banner ads?

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Looks like everyone is bringing up the right points. Media buy is pretty advance so you definitely want to have a plan.
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Media Buying = Big Spender

If you have the money then this is a great way to go, but be prepared to spend a lot and test a lot


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The #1 way to start media buying is:

1) Get an offer from a CPA network
2) Google the top keywords in that niche
3) Look for websites that accept advertising
4) Email them or buy ads on their site if they have an "advertise" link
5) Test your offer and optimise
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Biggest tip - Be prepared to lose money.

Media buying is generally a pretty big gamble, it's always a case of throwing as much as you can out there, tracking EVERYTHING and see what sticks. Then ramp up the ads/placements that are doing well and cut the losers.

The payoff is definately worth it though. Media buys are one of the few tactics that can net you 4 figures in a single day when you get it right. The downside is they can also suck your bank account dry when you get it wrong lol.

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How to test the offer? Thanks.
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I dont mean any disrespect with this comment but if that's the question you're asking, media buying may not be the best fit for you. It's not as easy as just duplicating what you see others doing. You need to spend days / weeks analyzing data, split testing ad-copy, images, content, offers, ETC before becoming profitable, so if you dont have a nice sized budget, i would recommend staying away from media buying for the time being.
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successful media buying tip: don't do it unless you know the offers, traffic, page stats, and have $5000 to sink in. (yes, five thousand)
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yes.

media buying is the big category.

ppc is a subset of media buying.

they are not different.

and yes ppc u need a big budget.

ppv are harder and more things to worry though.

u have to make sure ur page loads up fast because if it doesnt 99% of the time people will close it before it opens up.

only 1% will wait for ur ads to show.

ppc are people who are interested in ur ad thus they click. so its higher quality traffic.

ppv are people who are forced to see ur ads so the quality is not as good.

just keep that in mind.
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If you could spend $50,000 per day, you would find enough winning ad variations to pay for your future ad spend. Unfortunately most start with $5 per day and are just setting themselves up for failure.

You're buying data, tweaking it and profitting. Most don't get past the first step.


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If you could spend $50,000 per day, you would find enough winning ad variations to pay for your future ad spend. Unfortunately most start with $5 per day and are just setting themselves up for failure.

You're buying data, tweaking it and profitting. Most don't get past the first step.


LOL yea don't we all wish we had 50K to blow right away


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