Point of Many Networks?

tidest · 08-17-2011, 08:11 AM

What is the point of using many different cpa networks?

And does anyone know the number I can use to call neverblue?

imback · 08-17-2011, 08:13 AM

I use 3 usually only 2.

Why?

Simple I like to try and compete against one another and get a higher payout.

Believe it or not a .50 cent raise in the payout can be the difference between 50 dollars profit and 500

CHAD

PPC-Coach · 08-17-2011, 08:36 AM

Also, offers go down all the time and having more then one source is always a good thing.

Networks want you to run everything through them, (because they get a cut of everything), but if an offer goes down, you're screwed without and replacement offer.

AnnD · 08-17-2011, 08:40 AM

Neverblue - +1 250-386-5323

imback · 08-17-2011, 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PPC-Coach

Also, offers go down all the time and having more then one source is always a good thing.

Networks want you to run everything through them, (because they get a cut of everything), but if an offer goes down, you're screwed without and replacement offer.

That is definitely a reason too! Good Point. Usually if you have high even traffic of good quality the publisher will still let you run the offer, but if not you can go to your other networks.

CHAD

JasonWestwick · 08-17-2011, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imback

I use 3 usually only 2.

Why?

Simple I like to try and compete against one another and get a higher payout.

Believe it or not a .50 cent raise in the payout can be the difference between 50 dollars profit and 500

CHAD

I agree completely, this is definitely a solid reason for working with multiple networks.

Also I advise signing up to multiple networks as not only do you want a variety of offers and payouts, but you will find that you will "click" with a certain few networks who you will run most of your campaigns with.
You can't get a feel for how a networks and it's AM's truly work until you have been accepted and start working with them.

imback · 08-17-2011, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonWestwick

I agree completely, this is definitely a solid reason for working with multiple networks.

Also I advise signing up to multiple networks as not only do you want a variety of offers and payouts, but you will find that you will "click" with a certain few networks who you will run most of your campaigns with.
You can't get a feel for how a networks and it's AM's truly work until you have been accepted and start working with them.

Very true Jason.

I have clicked with my two top networks the most. It is hard to find a true AM that knows what they are doing these days.

CHAD

zpoll92 · 08-17-2011, 10:55 AM

Can you please tell us which is the best netowrks in your opinion? I am going to use E-mail submits & Zip submits. How much money may I get for them?

tidest · 08-17-2011, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imback

I use 3 usually only 2.

Why?

Simple I like to try and compete against one another and get a higher payout.

Believe it or not a .50 cent raise in the payout can be the difference between 50 dollars profit and 500

CHAD

Sorry, but I dont understand

JasonWestwick · 08-18-2011, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tidest

Sorry, but I dont understand

Basically he is stating that he predominantly works with only 2 or 3 networks.

These networks will most likely be running very similar if not the same offers, the payouts for each offer may or may not be the same.

What Chad does is simply use his good standing and relationship with the network to increase the payout that is offered, he will play the networks against each other until he has the highest payout that can be offered.

As he states something as small as a $0.50 difference can have a huge impact on your overall profits when converting at big number.

1000 conversions = $500 more.

hope that helps.

jordanberg2311 · 08-18-2011, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tidest

Sorry, but I dont understand

what he meant is same offer but the payout differs from network to network
e.g. a dating offer (Mate1.com) payout is $4.50 in Network A and it can be $5.00 in Network B.

yes, you make 0.50 from network B. If you do 20conversions a day is $10 more.
Some super affiliates doing 200 conversions per day. That's $100 more.

Wiz Khalifa · 08-18-2011, 09:25 AM

In my opinion if you get banned from network #1, you still got network #2 to work on. just safety and more to choose from

imback · 08-18-2011, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonWestwick

Basically he is stating that he predominantly works with only 2 or 3 networks.

These networks will most likely be running very similar if not the same offers, the payouts for each offer may or may not be the same.

What Chad does is simply use his good standing and relationship with the network to increase the payout that is offered, he will play the networks against each other until he has the highest payout that can be offered.

As he states something as small as a $0.50 difference can have a huge impact on your overall profits when converting at big number.

1000 conversions = $500 more.

hope that helps.

Exactly WHY!

Thanks for clarifying that for them

CHAD

Quote:

Originally Posted by jordanberg2311

what he meant is same offer but the payout differs from network to network
e.g. a dating offer (Mate1.com) payout is $4.50 in Network A and it can be $5.00 in Network B.

yes, you make 0.50 from network B. If you do 20conversions a day is $10 more.
Some super affiliates doing 200 conversions per day. That's $100 more.

Yes and beyond that to battle it out with my AM's and get even higher payouts that the one they already gave.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wiz Khalifa

In my opinion if you get banned from network #1, you still got network #2 to work on. just safety and more to choose from

I guess this is a good idea

I do not do anything to get banned so it is all good

CHAD

williamrs · 08-18-2011, 11:30 AM

It's good to have accounts with multiple networks in order to have access to more offers and better payouts. However, I don't recommend you to run campaigns with many networks simultaneously, keep in mind that it's better to be a big publisher with one company than a small one with many companies. Big publishers tend to get better offers, payouts and support, so don't spread your income unless you're doing a lot of volume.

W

imback · 08-18-2011, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by williamrs

It's good to have accounts with multiple networks in order to have access to more offers and better payouts. However, I don't recommend you to run campaigns with many networks simultaneously, keep in mind that it's better to be a big publisher with one company than a small one with many companies. Big publishers tend to get better offers, payouts and support, so don't spread your income unless you're doing a lot of volume.

W

Yes you never want to spread your income, that is exactly why it is important to keep your number one network in check by bringing up their competitors aka your other network every now and again

CHAD

JustFelix · 08-18-2011, 03:04 PM

The more cpa network there is the more offers you can promote. Another thing is that you should never keep your eggs in 1 basket. You never know your CPA network can ban you for stupid reasons.

ChrisBa · 08-18-2011, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tidest

What is the point of using many different cpa networks?

And does anyone know the number I can use to call neverblue?

It's good to have a few just to split test offers to optimize your earnings

NicholasCollins · 08-18-2011, 08:17 PM

All good ideas, split/a-b testing and keep your account managers in the know that they are not the only operation you use and that they should offer you the best deals they get to keeep you a happy camper and keep you using their network. I always show them how I am growing my network and that as I grow they will grow and they like to hear that kind of stuff.

Brian Cashins · 08-18-2011, 09:15 PM

I like to have multiple myself. If an offer gets hot, I can scale it on another network. Then I have two or more sets of data. I can then get a real good view of whats going on with both my traffic and the network, or even the advertiser.
You can never be too safe these days with your cash and campaigns. I've had a few AMs try to prod more than enough information from me so they could replicate my success. Having a campaign running in two or more spots insures that I have the advantage. After all, it's just good business.

cpazebra · 08-18-2011, 11:11 PM

i always find the highest payout offers between those network.

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PPC-Coach Senior Warrior Member War Room Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: , , . Posts: 2,547 Thanks: 44 Thanked 663 Times in 379 Posts	Re: Point of Many Networks? Also, offers go down all the time and having more then one source is always a good thing. Networks want you to run everything through them, (because they get a cut of everything), but if an offer goes down, you're screwed without and replacement offer.

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Brian Cashins Warrior Mentor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: The MidWest Posts: 30 Thanks: 1 Thanked 4 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Point of Many Networks? I like to have multiple myself. If an offer gets hot, I can scale it on another network. Then I have two or more sets of data. I can then get a real good view of whats going on with both my traffic and the network, or even the advertiser. You can never be too safe these days with your cash and campaigns. I've had a few AMs try to prod more than enough information from me so they could replicate my success. Having a campaign running in two or more spots insures that I have the advantage. After all, it's just good business.

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