Is there such a thing as stealing in CPA?

clarissa29 · 08-18-2011, 09:06 PM

I mean, is it possible that someone can steal some of the leads that came from your website? Like, we were only given a tracking URL right? Can someone just easily change it or something? I asked because I am just curious why there are clicks in my ads but I am not getting conversions, is it possible that it's not registering as mine or something?

If this situation happens, how can we avoid it? Btw, is there a way to "mask" network URLs without using bit.ly or something? Is that were creating a landing page becomes useful? Please help! Thanks everyone

cpazebra · 08-19-2011, 01:01 AM

i think ,there are two possible , first , those offer didn't convert well , second , some one hack ur site

jeffrey73 · 08-19-2011, 01:19 AM

Yeah, and it's done by the advertisers, not other affiliates. It's called shaving or scrubbing.

Cloaking your links is always a good idea too.

JasonWestwick · 08-19-2011, 03:17 AM

Just because you are getting clicks to your ads it does not mean they will convert, there are so many factors that can determine whether a viewer will convert or not.

What is your traffic source?
Are you direct linking or using a landing page?
are you pre-selling the viewer effectively
How strong is your copy
How well does the offer convert for other affiliates
How well does it convert for your traffic source??
etc.

As you can see all of these factors need to be taken into account when optimising your campaign for success.

As Jeffrey advises scrubbing of your leads can happen, but before you go off and start blaming the network for a lack of conversions, simply have a look at what you're doing and how to improve it.

jordanberg2311 · 08-19-2011, 03:58 AM

jeffrey73 just nailed it there.

No one can steal your leads. Only advertisers can. They sort of take certain leads into account so you lose x amount of leads. You never know in your end. If you split test it, you'll find out very soon

COPEAC Steve · 08-19-2011, 06:56 AM

Clarissa - The Motorcycle website in your signature, is that the website and location of the ad's you're referring to?

I so, you have an offer from Peerfly way below the fold on the very bottom of the page. You also have email submits for free I-pad's and a car insurance offer, but your website and content is all about motor cycles so the issue may be that the users are just not interested in filling out those forms.

Have you looked for offers related to motor cycles?

Always remember to place ad's that are relevant to the topics being discussed. If you're referring to another website, let us know what the domain is so we can give you some feedback.

ChrisBa · 08-19-2011, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clarissa29

I mean, is it possible that someone can steal some of the leads that came from your website? Like, we were only given a tracking URL right? Can someone just easily change it or something? I asked because I am just curious why there are clicks in my ads but I am not getting conversions, is it possible that it's not registering as mine or something?

If this situation happens, how can we avoid it? Btw, is there a way to "mask" network URLs without using bit.ly or something? Is that were creating a landing page becomes useful? Please help! Thanks everyone

It's not uncommon to have clicks but no conversions, unfortunately this business isn't as easy as throwing up an ad and instantly profiting.. how big is your sample size? what have you split tested?

clarissa29 · 08-19-2011, 12:02 PM

Oh no, I'm not blaming the network, I'm still in the reality that my traffic is not enough and that what I've been doing still needs improvement. I'm just asking because I want to know what I need to know in order to avoid that...

clarissa29 · 08-19-2011, 12:03 PM

how do I cloak it? Using bit.ly or tiny url? is that allowed?

clarissa29 · 08-19-2011, 12:04 PM

Honestly, I do not know how to answer this question.

I guess I still don't know half of what I'm doing.

clarissa29 · 08-19-2011, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by COPEAC Steve

Clarissa - The Motorcycle website in your signature, is that the website and location of the ad's you're referring to?

I so, you have an offer from Peerfly way below the fold on the very bottom of the page. You also have email submits for free I-pad's and a car insurance offer, but your website and content is all about motor cycles so the issue may be that the users are just not interested in filling out those forms.

Have you looked for offers related to motor cycles?

Always remember to place ad's that are relevant to the topics being discussed. If you're referring to another website, let us know what the domain is so we can give you some feedback.

Thank you for this advice. Hmmm.. I'm going to remove it. The site is pretty new and still not driving traffic so I'm really not thinking that Peerfly is doing something

I think I need to rephrase my question, can I cloak links, should I create my own landing page, or using my blog okay? I mean I am just scared that I am doing something wrong that 's why it's not converting and I want to do something about it as early as now, not that I am thinking that they are shaving or anything because I lurve Peerfly, really...

clarissa29 · 08-19-2011, 12:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JasonWestwick

Just because you are getting clicks to your ads it does not mean they will convert, there are so many factors that can determine whether a viewer will convert or not.

What is your traffic source?
Are you direct linking or using a landing page?
are you pre-selling the viewer effectively
How strong is your copy
How well does the offer convert for other affiliates
How well does it convert for your traffic source??
etc.

As you can see all of these factors need to be taken into account when optimising your campaign for success.

As Jeffrey advises scrubbing of your leads can happen, but before you go off and start blaming the network for a lack of conversions, simply have a look at what you're doing and how to improve it.

Oh no, I'm not blaming the network, I'm still in the reality that my traffic is not enough and that what I've been doing still needs improvement. I'm just asking because I want to know what I need to know in order to avoid that...

aphazel · 08-19-2011, 12:43 PM

I heard some affiliate networks can and some actually do this, I just read it in a forum. I'm still researching myself on how to combat this potential problem.

jeffrey73 · 08-19-2011, 01:20 PM

Chris, Jason, and Jordan are completely dead on-point.

It is MUCH, much harder than to throw up an ad and start profiting. In fact, I'm tired of these guys saying you'll make THOUSANDS instantly by doing one simple thing. Not gonna happen, sorry.

It's more like fail multiple times before you actually even find something that has potential to work. Then you expand upon it.

clarissa29 · 08-22-2011, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffrey73

Chris, Jason, and Jordan are completely dead on-point.

It is MUCH, much harder than to throw up an ad and start profiting. In fact, I'm tired of these guys saying you'll make THOUSANDS instantly by doing one simple thing. Not gonna happen, sorry.

It's more like fail multiple times before you actually even find something that has potential to work. Then you expand upon it.

Thanks. Yup, the guys are right. But I ain't giving up.

08-18-2011, 09:06 PM	#1
clarissa29 Active Warrior Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 48 Thanks: 20 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Is there such a thing as stealing in CPA? I mean, is it possible that someone can steal some of the leads that came from your website? Like, we were only given a tracking URL right? Can someone just easily change it or something? I asked because I am just curious why there are clicks in my ads but I am not getting conversions, is it possible that it's not registering as mine or something? If this situation happens, how can we avoid it? Btw, is there a way to "mask" network URLs without using bit.ly or something? Is that were creating a landing page becomes useful? Please help! Thanks everyone
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08-19-2011, 01:01 AM	#2
cpazebra Warrior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 24 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Contact Info	Re: Is there such a thing as stealing in CPA? i think ,there are two possible , first , those offer didn't convert well , second , some one hack ur site

08-19-2011, 01:19 AM	#3
jeffrey73 AdCopyAssault.com War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,073 Thanks: 1,249 Thanked 450 Times in 374 Posts	Re: Is there such a thing as stealing in CPA? Yeah, and it's done by the advertisers, not other affiliates. It's called shaving or scrubbing. Cloaking your links is always a good idea too.
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08-19-2011, 03:17 AM	#4
JasonWestwick Advanced Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 602 Thanks: 158 Thanked 233 Times in 148 Posts	Re: Is there such a thing as stealing in CPA? Just because you are getting clicks to your ads it does not mean they will convert, there are so many factors that can determine whether a viewer will convert or not. What is your traffic source? Are you direct linking or using a landing page? are you pre-selling the viewer effectively How strong is your copy How well does the offer convert for other affiliates How well does it convert for your traffic source?? etc. As you can see all of these factors need to be taken into account when optimising your campaign for success. As Jeffrey advises scrubbing of your leads can happen, but before you go off and start blaming the network for a lack of conversions, simply have a look at what you're doing and how to improve it.
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08-19-2011, 03:58 AM	#5
jordanberg2311 Advanced Warrior Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 588 Thanks: 3 Thanked 82 Times in 67 Posts	Re: Is there such a thing as stealing in CPA? jeffrey73 just nailed it there. No one can steal your leads. Only advertisers can. They sort of take certain leads into account so you lose x amount of leads. You never know in your end. If you split test it, you'll find out very soon

08-19-2011, 06:56 AM	#6
COPEAC Steve HyperActive Warrior Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 202 Thanks: 0 Thanked 46 Times in 37 Posts	Re: Is there such a thing as stealing in CPA? Clarissa - The Motorcycle website in your signature, is that the website and location of the ad's you're referring to? I so, you have an offer from Peerfly way below the fold on the very bottom of the page. You also have email submits for free I-pad's and a car insurance offer, but your website and content is all about motor cycles so the issue may be that the users are just not interested in filling out those forms. Have you looked for offers related to motor cycles? Always remember to place ad's that are relevant to the topics being discussed. If you're referring to another website, let us know what the domain is so we can give you some feedback.

08-19-2011, 12:02 PM	#8
clarissa29 Active Warrior Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 48 Thanks: 20 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Is there such a thing as stealing in CPA? Oh no, I'm not blaming the network, I'm still in the reality that my traffic is not enough and that what I've been doing still needs improvement. I'm just asking because I want to know what I need to know in order to avoid that...
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08-19-2011, 12:03 PM	#9
clarissa29 Active Warrior Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 48 Thanks: 20 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Is there such a thing as stealing in CPA? how do I cloak it? Using bit.ly or tiny url? is that allowed?
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08-19-2011, 12:04 PM	#10
clarissa29 Active Warrior Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 48 Thanks: 20 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Re: Is there such a thing as stealing in CPA? Honestly, I do not know how to answer this question. I guess I still don't know half of what I'm doing.
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08-19-2011, 12:43 PM	#13
aphazel Active Warrior Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: Is there such a thing as stealing in CPA? I heard some affiliate networks can and some actually do this, I just read it in a forum. I'm still researching myself on how to combat this potential problem.

08-19-2011, 01:20 PM	#14
jeffrey73 AdCopyAssault.com War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Posts: 2,073 Thanks: 1,249 Thanked 450 Times in 374 Posts	Re: Is there such a thing as stealing in CPA? Chris, Jason, and Jordan are completely dead on-point. It is MUCH, much harder than to throw up an ad and start profiting. In fact, I'm tired of these guys saying you'll make THOUSANDS instantly by doing one simple thing. Not gonna happen, sorry. It's more like fail multiple times before you actually even find something that has potential to work. Then you expand upon it.
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