pramodchauhan1980

Hi Guys,

I needed a small clarification on what does quality traffic means for EMail/Zip Submit offers on CPA network.

I'm using Google Adwords PPC with targeted keywords , have a good converstion rate & earning 100 $ + everyday but one of the CPA network terminated my account saying that my traffic quality is low & refused to pay me my 1200$. that was my first payment from the network. The affilate manager sited poor traffic quality as a reason & closed my account without informing me, didn't get any mail. Its only when i realized that ads were not working, I contacted the affilate manager & then they informed me that I'm banned. He said advertisers dont want me on the board but When I confronted him saying that I'm using PPC with targeted keywords, & he looked at my website & agreed to reactivate the account & pay me for the good leads. However, next day when I contacted him again, he refused to activate my account saying that I had too many bad conversions hence he cant allow me to work on his network.

I have also made 2500 $ on another network which is due for payments in 2 days. I earlier got paid with them for 225 $ 15 days back. Now i'm feeling a bit jittery whether I'll get paid on awnother network as I have already invested 1000 $ + to drive traffic through PPC .

I have been promoting email/zip submit offers where I'm using most releveant & targeted keywords. Infact no way I'm misleading the visitiors on my website as I have clearly specified what they need to do , to win stuff .

Can anyone explain what does quality traffic means for email/zip submit offers?
Why do you think I got terminated from CPA network when I was not using any false means of driving traffic?

DIABL0

I would take the poor traffic quality to mean that after the email/zip submit was completed that they then converted poorly. So if you generated say 800 submits @ $1.50 each and those 800 submits didn't convert at what they consider to be a minimum acceptable conversion for paying $1.50, then they would consider your traffic poor.

Banning someone and refusing to pay sounds extreme and I would only think that a network would do that when fraud was involved.

jonhkh17

a lot of people has got this problem with many cpa network out there, cpa network they don't want to pay you because you make too much, they rather give reason to get away save their money, while you work you ass off to generate lead. Work with only the popular cpa network is safe.

pramodchauhan1980

Thanks !

Well they didn't site fraud as a reason & I can say for sure that I have not indulged in a fraud activity for generarting traffic. I'm using Google adwords PPC with targeted keyords specific to the offers as only source of traffic.

If you say that my poor converions after email/zip submit could be the reason for poor quality, how can one ensure that visitiors on your website converts after filling email /zip submit?
Do you say that they need to fill offers to considere as a conversion & if so than why does it they are called Email/Zip Submit offers if advertisers are going to consider conversion beyond email /zip enterd by visitiors?

aruns4

What is the network name that banned you?

DIABL0

I wasn't saying you did that. I just thought banning and refusing to pay was extreme. They should still pay you. Only once in the past 11+ years that I have been doing CPA was someone not happy with my traffic and I was still paid, but could no longer run that offer using the traffic that I used.

I don't know what to tell you on that one. You could tell people how the offer works and what is expected of them in the ad. That will probably lower your clicks though and the traffic your paying for won't convert as well.

Anything outside of a sale, then the conversion is going to be key.

Look at it this way. If you pay $1200 for PPC and you only make $500 are you going to keep paying $1200? No because the traffic was poor and didn't convert. It's the same thing with email/zip submits that you are being paid for. If they pay you $1200 and it makes $500, they are not going to want your traffic anymore. Granted in this case they just didn't pay you.

pramodchauhan1980

Limelight CPA Network...........Forgot about not paying me... The CEO of this Networks lacks Professionalism ... He says one things in one mail & something else in another...One should avoid this network for Good reasons

FoxWalker

Learning a lot here. Still its always better to stay with most trusted and top cpa networks. Limelight also seems to be a big network but may be we need to maintain some standards with them in traffic.

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pramodchauhan1980

sorry but Limelight does not quailfy to be a large network & certainly not the better one. It a year old network with Its CEO as an affiliate manager for almost every affiliate member..so you can make out the size of the network.

pteller

Limelight seems to be a smaller network. Never heard of it before. For CPA, I would suggest trying out with bigger and popular networks like Neverblue, Maxbounty, Peerfly, etc.

PS: Pramod, I am not able to send you a PM because my post count is very low. Can you please send an email to ptellermail @ ymail.com . I need to talk to you regarding some marketing stuff Cheers.

sloanjim

That's complete B*S*. Sadly seems to be happening more and more these days with many NW's. Usually the smaller ones. Crooks running them I suspect. Name them...from now on...I might set up a blog naming and shaming all the NW's that pull crap like this. Shoot it top of Google. We need to fight back some way.

pramodchauhan1980

Limelight CPA Network should Top the Chart of Such List...Man the CEO has stopped responding my mails after I have been requesting payments atleast for my good leads ..Can you imagine i have spent close to 500 $ generating leads for his network...& he cares a damn about if affiliates gets thrashed for no mistake of his. If he is such a legit guy why don't he share his contact number when I asked for one as I wanted to discuss all this crap in details.

ChrisBa

It's a relative term, generally it means if the traffic backs out for the merchant.. for example for zip and email submits.. if all of you traffic just fills out there email and doesn't complete any of the embedded offers, then the quality is deemed low as they make no money off of it and essentially loose money

What technique were you using to drive your traffic?

pramodchauhan1980

Thanks ChrisBa!
I was driving traffic through Google adwords PPC with relevant targeted keywords..Infact no where I was using any false means to drive traffic...I really don't know if my traffic was poor or the CPA network that I was using is fooling around as they have been very unprofessional , they don't seems to be interested to look at issues.

Anyhow, how can i ensure that visitiors go all the way to fill offers..your advice would be highly appreciated

its really strange that on one side the advertisers says the conversion is on email/zip submit & on the other end they expect visitiors to fill the offers..I know thats how they earn money but than they shouldn't be paying us in nuts if the whole idea is to get traffic to fill offers or spend money..atleast we deserve to be paid far better than what advertisers do for so called email/zip submits....

JunkYour925

That's why before I use ANY CPAnet I call and talk and build rapport with AM. That will screen out this crapola.

Its more important or just as important to screen them as much as they screen you...

btw, sorry to have heard about your trouble. Hope you get them ironed out. But don't expend too much of your precious and valuable energy on this. Might be better to focus that energy elsewhere and move on or else they will continue to get the better of you.

LukePeerFly

This is a great description. Advertisers have to make money off your traffic and if your traffic is not backing out for them (bad quality) then they will want to remove you from that offer.

With PeerFly, we do not terminate accounts based on quality (unless there is obviously fraud involved). Instead, we will blacklist you on an offer at the advertiser's request. 99% of the time you will still be paid for your traffic (1% being fraud), but you will no longer be able to run that offer. In that case, I would work with you to find similar offers that you can run and we would work on improving your quality by targeting different keywords, making tweaks to your landing page, etc.

I outline traffic quality in this post on getting blacklisted.

I am an Affiliate Manager at PeerFly.
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pramodchauhan1980

[quote=LukePeerFly;4615216]This is a great description. Advertisers have to make money off your traffic and if your traffic is not backing out for them (bad quality) then they will want to remove you from that offer.

With PeerFly, we do not terminate accounts based on quality (unless there is obviously fraud involved). Instead, we will blacklist you on an offer at the advertiser's request. 99% of the time you will still be paid for your traffic (1% being fraud), but you will no longer be able to run that offer. In that case, I would work with you to find similar offers that you can run and we would work on improving your quality by targeting different keywords, making tweaks to your landing page, etc.





Thanks a Ton Luke ! Really appreciate a perspective on quality traffic from an affiliate manager , i only wished that I had equally understandable affiliate manager like you at the network that I was part of.

I agree that if the affiliate member is not indulging in fradulent activities,
and is driving traffic through proper means, he should be give chance to work on his traffic quality , at the end of the day everyone here is to make money be it advertisers, publishers or CPa network & efforts should be made to facilitate the efforts of affiliate members in right direction.

Its comforting to know that there are CPA networks like Peerfly who are senstive to the needs of their partners be it advertisers or publishers and go out of the way to make it a win win situation for everyone involved, it speaks alot about business ethics & professionalism , hats of too you guys at Peerfly !

I guess thats the reason why u guys have been so successful in such a short span of time & are conisdered to be one of the Top CPA network around.
Keep doing the good work Luke !

williamrs

Even using a good traffic source you still may have problems with traffic quality. In the case of email/zip submits, if just a very small percentage of the people are filling out the second form the advertiser won't make money and, therefore, you will get scrubbed or even blacklisted for the offer.

However, you should have been notified before having your account shut down if you were not using any illegal methods. So, if the network simply closed your account without a previous warning I think you should just move on and start sending traffic to another network. I know it sucks losing $1K+ when we're just starting, but it's probably the best you can do now.


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pramodchauhan1980

Thanks !
Ya thats the best that I can do ...New CPA network sucks..I have learnt my lesson & now I'm gonna stick with the reputed ones !

pramodchauhan1980

Surprise ! Surprise !

I Got Paid Today for the month of August ($2500)from the other reputed Network that I have Been using & there has been no complaints about any traffic quality whatsoever.
Importantly, I have been paid every single Penny due for the month of august.
So its quite evident that the other New Network which denied me payments & terminated my account on the grounds of poor quality was misleading & lying as I was using the same traffic source (PPC), same site & similar offers across the both network.
If the quality was good for the reputed network where leads where double than how come traffic can be of low quality for the other network .

The morale of the story is , work with the reputed & reliable network , mostly top 5.