I know I'm getting conversions but I'm not getting paid

Seanjtucker · 09-11-2011, 05:54 PM

I have a couple of campaigns running with MaxBounty and Peerfly but I am not getting paid for all of the conversions I KNOW that I'm getting. The reason I know is because I walk people through a specific training that THEY asked for which kind of forces them to sign up and I've even seen people do them in my face and I'm not getting paid. I've spent a lot of money on this method and now I'm losing money. Is this happening to anybody else with these networks???

ChrisBa · 09-11-2011, 06:13 PM

Is this an email submit? or what type of offer? have you called the networks and asked about it?

Seanjtucker · 09-11-2011, 06:21 PM

email submits, and I also have a dating offer with a 1st page conversion. I talked to my manager at Peerfly and he says they're converting for people. I can see the clicks but I can't see the money coming from certain offers. If it helps any, the email submits are completed on a mobile device.

kirch · 09-11-2011, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Seanjtucker

. ... the email submits are completed on a mobile device.

Does the offer permit to promote on mobile traffic ? If the mobile traffic is not permitted ,the advertiser's lead scoring systems may have rejected the lead/conversion due to the lead scoring being solely based on regular computer traffic vs mobile traffic !

Seanjtucker · 09-11-2011, 06:46 PM

The last one of them was email only. I have a text list instead of an email list so I still use the email offers for the offers that I text. I haven't had too many problems with that although that was the only offer that was strictly email.

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Originally Posted by kirch

Does the offer permit to promote on mobile traffic ? If the mobile traffic is not permitted ,the advertiser's lead scoring systems may have rejected the lead/conversion due to the lead scoring being solely based on regular computer traffic vs mobile traffic !

Matthew NY · 09-11-2011, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Seanjtucker

email submits, and I also have a dating offer with a 1st page conversion. I talked to my manager at Peerfly and he says they're converting for people. I can see the clicks but I can't see the money coming from certain offers. If it helps any, the email submits are completed on a mobile device.

Im confused. You said you can see the clicks. Clicks are one thing, conversions are another. If you're getting clicks that doesn't necessarily mean you are getting conversions.

Maybe you meant conversions? Let me know.

Matt P

mtmjohn · 09-11-2011, 11:45 PM

Email submit scrubs. There isn't much you can do about it and it's just part of the game.

Seanjtucker · 09-12-2011, 01:00 AM

Yeah I understand about clicks and conversions... I was saying that my links are definitely working but not conversions through them. And like I said earlier, I even saw a few people fill out offers in my face and I never got paid.

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Originally Posted by Matthew NY

Im confused. You said you can see the clicks. Clicks are one thing, conversions are another. If you're getting clicks that doesn't necessarily mean you are getting conversions.

Maybe you meant conversions? Let me know.

Matt P

Seanjtucker · 09-12-2011, 01:02 AM

Alright, I just wanted to know if this was common in CPA marketing

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Originally Posted by mtmjohn

Email submit scrubs. There isn't much you can do about it and it's just part of the game.

JasonWestwick · 09-12-2011, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Seanjtucker

Alright, I just wanted to know if this was common in CPA marketing

Yes this is very common in CPA marketing, particularly with email and zip submits, it's simply a case that the advertisers need to profit on the backend and if a large number of your conversions are not making money for the advertiser then you will see leads being scrubbed.

It is frustrating but as Sean states, it is a part of CPA and one just has o deal with it, maybe try promoting similar offers that aren't purely email/zip submits.

mtmjohn · 09-12-2011, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Seanjtucker

Alright, I just wanted to know if this was common in CPA marketing

Yea, its very common. I'd suggest you check out these posts to learn how to stay away from scrubs:

Staying Off The Email Submit Scrub | Convert2Media Blog
Scrubbing Affiliate Offers, It Happens Apparantly | MikeChiasson.com
Pre-Poppable Email Submits & Staying Off The Scrub

Hope that helps

lovingperson · 09-12-2011, 04:49 AM

contact your affilate manager, describe your prob.

Seanjtucker · 09-12-2011, 10:38 AM

Thanks guys

AdBank · 09-12-2011, 12:37 PM

You should test the same offer or one similar on another network and see if it converts better

Kenster · 09-12-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mtmjohn

Email submit scrubs. There isn't much you can do about it and it's just part of the game.

Scrubbing is the most likely culprit...welcome to the simple submit game (zips, emails, etc).

In general, the leads for these low paying offers are worse and harder to convert on the backend so advertisers make up for it by scrubbing.

Another thing to consider is that many offers have geo restrictions. This isnt necessarily the case with you but for everybody else...you can get a million leads from a country where the advertiser doesn't accept traffic and not get paid a dime...some people overlook this!

james8888 · 09-12-2011, 03:24 PM

Welcome to my world! If I had a nickel for every time that happened to me.. Like Dwalters said just gotta deal with it. By the way, I know this post has been completely unhelpful.. Just thought I'd have a moan with you

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Seanjtucker Active Warrior War Room Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 88 Thanks: 27 Thanked 20 Times in 15 Posts	Re: I know I'm getting conversions but I'm not getting paid email submits, and I also have a dating offer with a 1st page conversion. I talked to my manager at Peerfly and he says they're converting for people. I can see the clicks but I can't see the money coming from certain offers. If it helps any, the email submits are completed on a mobile device.
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james8888 Warrior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 19 Thanks: 1 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Re: I know I'm getting conversions but I'm not getting paid Welcome to my world! If I had a nickel for every time that happened to me.. Like Dwalters said just gotta deal with it. By the way, I know this post has been completely unhelpful.. Just thought I'd have a moan with you